US Navy Admits it has More UAP Videos

a reply to: gortex

Given how bad the original videos were I won't be holding my breath.

One of the older ones literally showed an aircraft with FAA spec running lights, so it's a UAP that obeys us air traffic regulations.

a reply to: gortex

I saw this story too.
I imagine there's multiple reason for not releasing the info' because of the risk of harming national security but it also triggers the conspiracist in me. Do they not want to release better quality evidence maybe because they're ours and they don't want to give the game away? Or is it because you can cleary see ET giving a 2 fingered salute to the camaera??
Lets hope we do get to see them and are able to make our own decision.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

No matter how advanced something is, it cant change the physical properties of energy. Even in 800000000 zillion years time, light will still be the fastest thing that exists because it the literal limit in which an electric field can change state.

You may confuse the difference between a person and people, everyone is an individual, not a group or a herd. Someone on earth is the smartest person in the solar system RIGHT NOW.

There are people on earth who are thousands, hundreds of thousands of years ahead of nearly everyone if you looked at it as how long would it take "YOU" to come up with certain ideas or notice certain things?

The point being, if something is literally made of atoms, it has an electric field, it has nuclear interactions if you see any plethora of objects, it literally does not matter what it is made of, it has a literal physical energy limit, if you exceed that, the thing will ...come apart to deal with this excess of energy. Basically the material will lose its energy to the greater energy source. You cannot move around without disturbing the energy of the atmosphere or space something is physically in.

You might be able to travel very fast in space since there is much less material to interact against but in the atmosphere with quadrillions of tonnes of air pressing down onto the earth, its a different story.

The only possible way that something could "look" like it was defying the physical properties of energy is if it was actually just light, somehow contained light. Or simply just information that can make our brain perceive an object that isnt actually there.

Since everything we "see" or what most cameras detect is electromagnetic radiation then our brain makes an interpretation of it. Usually photons bounce off materials with electric fields since electrons produce photons but like the sun, a screen or other direct light sources, you're seeing the photon emission directly from the producer of the field rather than a reflection of the photons having interacted with an atomic object.

a reply to: thethinkingman

Even in 800000000 zillion years time, light will still be the fastest thing that exists because it the literal limit in which an electric field can change state.

So... Tacheons?

Hello,
I can explain, I am a very old retired electrical engineer from days gone by.
Three craft NOT two were brought down in 47 outside of Corona New Mexico by a large experimental MICROWAVE device NOT a radar. We used high wattage microwave wave guides to target and bring down what we thought were a type of pilotless craft from one of our adversary’s only to find out it was definitely off planet.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Hello,
I can explain, I am a very old retired electrical engineer from days gone by.
Three craft NOT two were brought down in 47 outside of Corona New Mexico by a large experimental MICROWAVE device NOT a radar. We used high wattage microwave wave guides to target and bring down what we thought were a type of pilotless craft from one of our adversary’s only to find out it was definitely off planet.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Article below from Discovery posted in its entirety……

Source: Darkness Is Faster Than the Speed of Light By: Reuben Westmaas

Darkness Is Faster Than the Speed of Light

Does darkness really have a speed?

Nothing's faster than the speed of light. Except the speed of dark. That might sound like the tagline of a grim and gritty movie that's trying way too hard, but it also happens to be true.

Shadow Racing

This is a little hard to wrap your head around, but shadows can move faster than the speed of light, even though nothing can move faster than the speed of light. In a second, we'll explain how exactly that's possible without breaking the most fundamental law of physics. But first, this thought experiment might make things clearer.

Imagine you have a light that's powerful enough to reach the planet Jupiter. Imagine also that it casts that beam in a cone that's broad enough to cover the entire diameter of the planet. When you pass your finger over the lens, the shadow will cross the entire diameter of the planet — a distance of 86,881 miles (139,821 kilometers). The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second (299,338 kilometers per second). So if it takes you less than half a second to move your hand that distance, then that shadow will have "broken" the speed of light.

Shining a Light on the Subject

So, remember how we said that nothing can move faster than the speed of light? Well, that's the key. Shadows aren't anything. Shadows are the absence of something — specifically, photons, or particles of light. Since there's nothing that's actually traveling the distance, the only thing that's "moving" is an area where photons aren't. There's no information that's being transmitted faster than light, only a blockage of information. That means your interplanetary shadow-puppet show doesn't break any physical laws — only the hearts of your interplanetary audience.

This article first appeared on Curiosity.com.

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I can see it working that way. Radar is about wavelength and beams of energy bouncing off objects. If could be a Frequency we use can interfere with coms.

In "Mars Attacks" the song with some very sick sounding yodeling was a weapon.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I'm not sure how radar could bring down a spacecraft designed to travel through and avoid all the radiation that's out there in space.

I don't think the statement by the Navy is anything more than a literal statement.

They don't wish to reveal anything that could reveal the abilities of their sensor systems, aircraft and tactics employed to intercept unknowns. Nor are they prepared to put in the work to remove all these details to satisfy the curiosity of UFO buffs. Once you tell the public, you tell the whole world.

Not to derail your thoughts here, but Quantum movement is way, way faster than the speed of light.

originally posted by: thethinkingman
a reply to: Soloprotocol

No matter how advanced something is, it cant change the physical properties of energy. Even in 800000000 zillion years time, light will still be the fastest thing that exists because it the literal limit in which an electric field can change state.

You may confuse the difference between a person and people, everyone is an individual, not a group or a herd. Someone on earth is the smartest person in the solar system RIGHT NOW.

There are people on earth who are thousands, hundreds of thousands of years ahead of nearly everyone if you looked at it as how long would it take "YOU" to come up with certain ideas or notice certain things?

The point being, if something is literally made of atoms, it has an electric field, it has nuclear interactions if you see any plethora of objects, it literally does not matter what it is made of, it has a literal physical energy limit, if you exceed that, the thing will ...come apart to deal with this excess of energy. Basically the material will lose its energy to the greater energy source. You cannot move around without disturbing the energy of the atmosphere or space something is physically in.

You might be able to travel very fast in space since there is much less material to interact against but in the atmosphere with quadrillions of tonnes of air pressing down onto the earth, its a different story.

The only possible way that something could "look" like it was defying the physical properties of energy is if it was actually just light, somehow contained light. Or simply just information that can make our brain perceive an object that isnt actually there.

Since everything we "see" or what most cameras detect is electromagnetic radiation then our brain makes an interpretation of it. Usually photons bounce off materials with electric fields since electrons produce photons but like the sun, a screen or other direct light sources, you're seeing the photon emission directly from the producer of the field rather than a reflection of the photons having interacted with an atomic object.

originally posted by: spaceflyr

Hello,
I can explain, I am a very old retired electrical engineer from days gone by.
Three craft NOT two were brought down in 47 outside of Corona New Mexico by a large experimental MICROWAVE device NOT a radar. We used high wattage microwave wave guides to target and bring down what we thought were a type of pilotless craft from one of our adversary’s only to find out it was definitely off planet.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Ok…. So you are confirming that an experimental Microwave device was being tested specifically to bring down UFO’s in 1947? Do you have any additional, perhaps tangible proof of this? Like project documentation etc.? If so, kindly share. Or are you speaking from your old memory?

The memo I posted was from March 22 1950. Perhaps a different incident is being referenced.

Nothing in the memo references anything about 1947.

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originally posted by: spaceflyr

Hello,
I can explain, I am a very old retired electrical engineer from days gone by.
Three craft NOT two were brought down in 47 outside of Corona New Mexico by a large experimental MICROWAVE device NOT a radar. We used high wattage microwave wave guides to target and bring down what we thought were a type of pilotless craft from one of our adversary’s only to find out it was definitely off planet.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I love the information. How do we prove that is what happened, in your opinion? I suspect it to be true. I want more, obviously. Just as any Scientist should always wish for better more solid proof. Conspiracy facts need to be solid so I can say "We aren't talking theory. We are talking about the facts, and what they mean."

Dragnet's Joe Friday: "Just the facts".

ETA

Opichuchus, there are several dates where UFO capture was happening, if any of it did of course. Therefore, the date isn't as much an issue as the method. Microwaves can sure be weaponized. It still could be all this is a ruse to cover up these are our UFO's, the Earthlings that is, and not aliens at all. Shock and Awe value is the reason.

a reply to: Justoneman

I understand about the year dates etc.

My interest at the moment is …. Do we have or always have, been working on weapons to bring down UFO’s whether with High Energy radars, Microwaved, etc?

So far it’s been revealed publicly, We can’t conventionally catch up to the speeds of UAP’s with our on aircraft, missiles, etc.

But a focused beam weapon of sorts, much like in the configuration of a Radar style architecture, dish emitter etc., could probably sweep the sky fast enough to match or best the speed of some of the slower moving UAP’s in the sky.

I hope this makes sense.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

It makes perfect sense to me. I think had we had something in the Microwave weapon capability, the UFO's figured out how to avoid the problem like the crew of the Enterprise on Star Trek. They might have to adapt to conditions they didn't anticipate. Something our species seems to be able to do.

a reply to: thethinkingman

No matter how advanced something is, it cant change the physical properties of energy. Even in 800000000 zillion years time, light will still be the fastest thing that exists because it the literal limit in which an electric field can change state.

At one time the telegraph was the fastest form of communication until we discovered a faster way , the speed of light is slow , too slow for space travel so a faster method needs to be found , or perhaps has been found by many of the older spacefaring Civilisations out there.

The trick is finding the trick.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The memo I posted was from March 22 1950. Perhaps a different incident is being referenced.

Nothing in the memo references anything about 1947.

Yes that's because it relates to a hoax by a convicted con-man - Silas Newton.

It's all covered in great detail here : Debunked! The FBI alien bodies' memo – A case study in the reinvention of the wheel

Im new here & love ufo stuff thank you

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The memo I posted was from March 22 1950. Perhaps a different incident is being referenced.

Nothing in the memo references anything about 1947.

Yes that's because it relates to a hoax by a convicted con-man - Silas Newton.

It's all covered in great detail here : Debunked! The FBI alien bodies' memo – A case study in the reinvention of the wheel

Even the memo being a hoax…as you referenced…..is not my focused interest.

The memo mentions, if anything else, a possible method, a possible solution, in concept….on how to possibly deal with UFO’s ….to disable them in flight.

That alone, and the mere thought that someone, hoaxer or not, actually conceptualized the radar, focused beam, microwave etc…method is worth pursuing for the DOD etc. imo.

Beyond me….it’s already been mentioned that “radars” have been known to affect UFO’s. If there are enough of these contentions out there from different sources…. Then it forms consistency enough….. to say … hey, there might be something to this and should be investigated and developed for use if warranted.

I’m not interested per say, in dead aliens and after the fact crashes. I’m interested in the possible causations of the crashes. Even if theoretically viewed by some, such as myself.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: putnam6

I’ll “assume”

that Carter’s The Talk affected him so, and his reasoning for not doing the big reveal.

But then that would be a Denial of heritage. Would it not? So what, somebody, something created us. That in itself would become your and mine and everybody else Heritage….our Roots. Why should we not be able to handle that as a species?

We can accept that God of the Bible was our Creator, but we can not accept that God is an Alien.

How hypocritical….

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I think accepting that a being superior to us not only created us, but implanted us with religion to give us hope so we would live longer to be experimented on would be a little harder to swallow lol

a reply to: mirageman

And to your point of the memo being a hoax…….here’s a write up from the horses own mouth…the FBI…

March 25, 2013 UFOs And The Guy Hottel Memo

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