Serving Russian Paratrooper Speaks Out against the War in Ukraine

a reply to: Freeborn

Because he apparently believes that they ought to be made to think so, forcibly?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

If you believe this story from the same news media outlets that had being claiming that Ukraine is winning for the past six months now or that Russia is running low on ammunition.

Than that is truly denying ignorance.

Just as much into believing that the rebels in Syria were moderates when the opposite was true till 2014.

Truth is we don't know what to believe anymore and after the Syrian pantomine yeah it is possible we are getting the good guys and the bead guys the wrong way round. Planet Earth just needs peace right now.

We really need peace like asap. Been getting some communications of the orbs again first time in ages. just seen them appear very quickly like a flash, white lights in the bedroom. Her indoors noticed them like a week ago first, then they were there again for a fleeting moment last night. These things often are a precursor to some major event about to happen. Something might be about to go bang here in the UK or something. We need peace now not in the future. NATO / West need to pull back and Putin too. War will get us nowhere. We need peace through some form of negotiation before things get out of hand.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Anything to please his paymasters in The Kremlin.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

...We need peace now not in the future.....

That could easily be achieved; Putin calls an immediate ceasefire and agrees to mediation.
Not very hard really.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: vNex92

I suppose you would have no issues if you wanted Ukraine to kill many and many innocent civilians in Eastern Ukraine

Back in April The Kyiv Government told those in Eastern Ukraine to evacuate, because of what was about to happen.

If they stayed then that is their fault.

Ukraine had been killing civilians for years.

You only have to watch this British news report from ITV news in 2014 to see that the locals were against the Ukrainian government and army. Ukrainian forces were destroying Mariupol 8 years ago...

Just click the link below to see the ITV news report out of Britian to see how the locals really feel about the Ukrainian government

mobile.twitter.com...

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

...We need peace now not in the future.....

That could easily be achieved; Putin calls an immediate ceasefire and agrees to mediation.
Not very hard really.

Really hope so mate, this thing's getting out of control and the orbs are showing up. They come for these events like 7/7

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

So British MSM is now a reliable news source?

Strange, you and the usual suspects have been telling us since the start of the invasion that they aren't, which is it?

a reply to: Freeborn

Only when it suits them, apparently.

It's called "hypocrisy".

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

You only have to watch this British news report from ITV news in 2014 to see that the locals were against the Ukrainian government and army. Ukrainian forces were destroying Mariupol 8 years ago...

Just click the link below to see the ITV news report out of Britian to see how the locals really feel about the Ukrainian government

mobile.twitter.com...

Fast forward to today and most Ukranians have switched to supporting their government. Putin had every chance to get the locals onside but by trying to take out the whole of Ukraine including Kiev there is no way the original support will continue. Putin's prbably going to be the Czar that lost Ukraine forever. Didn't have to be that way.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

You only have to watch this British news report from ITV news in 2014 to see that the locals were against the Ukrainian government and army. Ukrainian forces were destroying Mariupol 8 years ago...

Just click the link below to see the ITV news report out of Britian to see how the locals really feel about the Ukrainian government

mobile.twitter.com...

Fast forward to today and most Ukranians have switched to supporting their government.

How you can say that with a straight face while the entire region's of Crimea and Donbas voted to leave Ukraine once the Ukrainian government basically outlawed the Russian language 3 years ago is beyond me...

The lack of critical thinking in these threads is reaching TDS status levels.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Ukrainian forces were destroying Mariupol 8 years ago.

Mariupol 2019.



Mariupol May 2022 after Putin's thugs let loose.



Just repeat again who did the destroying.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

So British MSM is now a reliable news source?

Strange, you and the usual suspects have been telling us since the start of the invasion that they aren't, which is it?

This is from 2014, when they were reporting the facts. Since the start of the invasion when Britain and the USA got involved not so much

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Ukrainian forces were destroying Mariupol 8 years ago.

Mariupol 2019.

Mariupol May 2022 after Putin's thugs let loose.

Just repeat again who did the destroying.

So what??? You think stuff didn't get rebuilt from 2014-2019?? Right now Mariupol is being rebuilt as well, it looks like a massive construction zone in Mariupol right now

a reply to: vNex92

I suppose you fail in history and are clueless about the Rus people.

i guess you did to,

whether you believe the western scholars theory or the revisionist russian theory that was started during stalins reign , both agree that the Kevin Rus people were centered in Kiev. hence the Name Keivn Rus, there was no russia. in fact one theory is that western Slavs moved east into present day russia in two waves. one from kiev to present day suzdal, and the second from polotsk to novgorod and rostov. novgorod being the first city that the that the Rurik dynasty started in, and when he died Oleg moved it to Kiev.

DNA testing points towards the early rulers of Kievn Rus as Vikings. the Slavs and Vikings assimilated over time. russia as a country didn't even come into existence until after Kein Rus had fallen in 1283 and the Grand Duchy of Moscow was also founded in 1283.

so it would seem that there is no pure blood russians or Ukrainians.

Again Ukrainians and Russians are one as the same people. They speak the same languages.

no it's not, their similar have the same roots and may can understand one another but their not the same language.

Linguistic And Geopolitical Borders
As already stated, Russian and Ukrainian are separate languages. Any remaining debate over the fact is not really about vocabulary and alphabets. Throughout history, language has been a way for groups to form identity and rally around a cause. There’s no scientific way to prove that two languages are separate, so people can play up or play down differences to suit a certain narrative. When someone equates Russian and Ukrainian — particularly given the situation today — it’s not rooted in linguistic fact, it’s an argument about nationhood.

How Similar Are Russian And Ukrainian?

a reply to: JAY1980

Says the person who believes the result of a 'ballot' that even Putin treated with sceptism when it was carried out because he knew it lacked any credibility whatsoever.

Fast forward a few years and after Putin's self-enforced prolonged isolation due to Covid and well, as the saying goes the rest is history.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Of course.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Oh really?

I thought that the US was involved and responsible for 2014?

Get your story straight?

If you watched the 2014 news report I posted you will see the people of Mariupol didn't want the Ukrainian forces there.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

So what???

So Russia had destroyed Mariupol then ?

Of course it has.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Yeah, and why is it now a massive construction zone?

Because Russia flattened it?