Will The Real Donald Trump Please Stand Up? (Hint: No, he won't.)

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: matafuchs

These people who hate and despise him, they don't think for themselves. They're fed daily by the media like it's their religion.

i know.


and they have the balls to talk about cults.

I laugh every time they do that, or how they like to call us members of Cult 45. Clever, but funny because they don't even notice that they're the ones who act like cultists. I could be wrong, but we'd never disagree with anything Trump said if we were cult members. There's plenty we've all disagreed with him on. On the other hand, democrats never disagreed with obama and they never disagree with the mainstream media.

We also don't have to call them cultists for everyone to see they're acting like cultists.

originally posted by: incoserv
a reply to: Byrd

If he is part of the new order, then the opposition would be on purpose. They could have planned for him to stir the pot, that's my contention in that part. The opposition would be to a large degree controlled and designed to draw out - as I said - the constitutional conservatives and mark them, create socio-political division and stoke instability.

Except that (supposedly) they've had hundreds (or thousands, depending on who you believe) of years to perfect this practice. So there'd be no reason to do a "false flag" operation here.

Either they control the political narrative or they don't. If they don't, then they're not much of a threat to anybody. We've had lots and lots of rulers who controlled the political narrative (look at Ramesses the Great - one of my favorite examples). There've even been rulers who colluded with other rulers to control a narrative (Hitler and Mussolini, or all the Russian states).

Those groups can quickly move to change and control things... but this so-called NWO can't seem to make an agenda or policy or move and make it happen.

That's why I don't think they exist. If they existed, we'd have a peaceful world (because fighting means you're wasting your country's resources and you are losing power) and we wouldn't have cultural subgroups and cultural holidays (like Cinco de Mayo or Juneteenth, both of which are popular here in Texas). We wouldn't even have multiple religions; just tiny variations of one religion (like the Islamic countries.)

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: incoserv

There are people out there, they are so pro Trump, (or Biden, but since we are talking Trump) it doesn’t matter what he does, he can do no wrong in their eyes.
It gets very concerning that a large portion of his followers don’t even like questions asked.

You see, this is just ridiculous.

I know a lot of Trump supporters, and every single one can name 10 things about Trump they doon't like, and have no problem questioning anything about him. Just like me. I'm still waiting to find one serious accusation against him that actually survives scrutiny.

Scenario 2, the NWO plant 100%

I shared my thoughts about him here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I specifically agree that if or when Trump is president again, he will continue to be portrayed as the 'unconquerable champion of truth, justice and the American way'. Some say that if he is elected as Speaker of the House then he could possibly have 6 years to do pretty much whatever he wants. I tend to believe that his 'drain the swamp' agenda will be used to erode the federal government within the U.S. leaving a vacuum into which the NWO can further inject itself. I believe that the NWO will then undermine all local governments by using guaranteed digital income in various forms to bribe individuals into surrendering their lives to the NWO. The individuals who accept the bribes, most of whom will likely be 'progressives' who love socialism/communism like antifa and blm, will then be turned against those who refuse the bribes.

I just can't get over the fact that Trump still approves of the vaccines that are killing Americans. I cannot believe that so many Americans give him a pass for killing Americans. The fact that Trump hired so many people who allegedly turned out to be foes causes me to doubt his judgement in every area. He was also unethical in his business dealings before becoming president. Either people are hypnotized and ignore his well publicized nefarious history or the maga crowds are all propaganda and the majority actually do understand that Trump is not a 'champion of truth, justice and the American way'.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
... I'm still waiting to find one serious accusation against him that actually survives scrutiny.

Let's see ...

He's orange.

He writes (wrote) mean tweets.

He started WWIII.

He made fun of Rosie O'Donnell.

Someone told me he was bad because his father gave him a loan to start in business. Yeah, somehow that's bad.

Hmm... What else?

Oh, he did a quid pro quo with Ukraine, which is an impeachable offense.

Oh, no, wait! That was Joe Biden did that. Then bragged about it publicly.


:

a reply to: incoserv

1) %1. Yes, that's what Trump has deliberately portrayed, but his actions have spoken very differently. Whether or not he BELIEVES he's in this category or it's just an act is a totally different question to which I have no sure answer.

2) 10%. Soon after Trump first got elected, after it was clear what direction his presidency was going, (exactly where he said it would and everybody thought it would) I figured that 'the plan' was to have Trump bring the US to the brink of disaster and incompetence, and then the NWO would bring in the 'real' candidate they wanted, and sell him on the basis of being 'way better than the last guy'. I'm not so convinced about this anymore, though; things haven't played out that way.

3) 90%. Your post pretty much spells it out. I think this scenario is by far the most likely one. This is the scenario that most fits the facts. Maybe there's some sort of shadowy group behind Trump (i.e. scenario 2) but I doubt it.

originally posted by: Kenzo

Scenario 2, the NWO plant 100%

Very possible. Look how divided the u.s. is. Divide and conquer. Have us hate each other and blindly follow terrible politicians because they fight against the other side. We'll elect more aweful politicians because the media portray them as the best shot to defeat the other side.