Covid Vaccines Are Killing One in Every 800 Over 60

Nope there hasn’t been decades of testing behind this vaccine. Don’t try to obscure the truth here. The mRNA technology has been tested for decades. This concoction hasn’t been tested at all. It’s being tested on healthy subjects, in real time, as we speak. It’s never, ever been tested. Sorry about your confusion, but you’re throwing out bs msm/big pharma talking points they are purposely designed to mislead.

a reply to: chr0naut

This gets sillier and sillier with each new iteration. Why would Clinton be paying for some actor to body-double a nurse for publicity photo-ops?

Gawd, I couldn't even get passed "Why would Clinton" without exploding to laugh.

Good one

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

No because Trump was blindsided by the plandemic and did what he could with the situation but a lot of people believe it was planned for one thing to create a reason to introduce new vaccines with a crisis and to destroy the economy because Trump was fixing the economy and a whole bunch of problems which were created by the elites in the first place. Trump was just naive about it. He said something at his recent rally about the deep state being even deeper than he thought when he was in office. So now he realizes how much deeper it is. But how could he have known that other than hindsight!

Well said and a great point to read as my faith in Trump bleeds in my hands.
It's way passed time for him to acknowledge what's going on with these
"vaccines". They should've been called back along time ago. And that is sprouting
suspicions everywhere. It's not like Trump to ignore what's happening. Maybe
he's being threatened who knows.

a reply to: macaronicaesar

If you don't use the reply button no one knows who you are talking to
partner.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: LordAhriman
If true (probably not), that number is magnitudes lower than the mortality rate of covid in people 60+.

I don't know how it is in the Netherlands, but in the US, a 1 in 800 chance of dying within any given week is about the expectation value for an 81 year old male, according to the actuarial tables. The analysis Dr. Schetters did lumps in everyone over 60 years old which of course includes all those over 81 years old, for which the risk of dying within a one week period would be even worse. One would need to know what the average expectation value for dying within a given week is for the entire group of 60+ year olds in order to know if a 1 in 800 risk rises above the background level.

Excess deaths are deaths that normal yearly statistics don't account for.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0
"If" they said yes, seems to me they are not saying anything to anyone because they they don't want to.

Honestly, it really doesn't make much of a difference except to those of you who seem to need for it to have been the vax.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: chr0naut

Don't you think it would be more in line with historical motivations to suggest that it was Trump who was paying some actor to promote the vaccines rather than some 'has-been' from years earlier?

No because Trump was blindsided by the plandemic

There have been American movies about pandemic and epidemic disasters going back to the 1940's. There is literature going back to the middle ages with such things as their plot. There are multiple governmental and international organizations who had been actively working day-to-day against such things, since before Trump was born.

The whole idea of the plandemic is that someone anticipated what would happen. Why couldn't Trump?

and did what he could with the situation but a lot of people believe it was planned for one thing to create a reason to introduce new vaccines with a crisis and to destroy the economy because Trump was fixing the economy

It is in the US Constitution (Article 1, Section 9) that economic control - 'the power of the purse' - is done by Congress and specifically the House of Representatives, and not the Presidency.

Trump, as President, could not fix the economy. He had no power or authority to operate the very things needed, and also he ostracized the very people that he, as President, was supposed to encourage in the doing of that task.

and a whole bunch of problems which were created by the elites in the first place. Trump was just naive about it.

I think you may have stumbled on the very source of the problem there!

He said something at his recent rally about the deep state being even deeper than he thought when he was in office. So now he realizes how much deeper it is. But how could he have known that other than hindsight!

He might possibly have learned about it in a civics class, or by reading the Constitution and considering what it says? Or perhaps he could have listened to, or read about any of the hundreds (thousands?) of very clever people with political experience who have been applying their intellects to the stable running of a nation since it was founded?

The whole US Constitutional political system was designed from its outset to distribute power and introduce checks and balances, so power could not reside in any one person, or group, or state. Trump's entire ethos and mode of operation directly opposed that. But I doubt he realized it because everyone who tried to explain the system was obviously "deep state" and out to get him (from his comments, he seemed to believe he was being persecuted in a way that no-one had ever been persecuted before. What an insecure wimp).

I don't blame Trump for his failings. He was ignorant and probably well meaning (if a little self centered). The blame is clearly on those that elected someone not fit for the role.

Perhaps, also, a country of 330 million people that bases the election of its President and Vice-President on the votes of only 227 Electoral College electors could be part of the issue too (that leaves enormous latitude for corruption there! Are the EC electors a small elite group who control an entire nation and could they be bribed? Hmmm...).

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

This gets sillier and sillier with each new iteration. Why would Clinton be paying for some actor to body-double a nurse for publicity photo-ops?

Gawd, I couldn't even get passed "Why would Clinton" without exploding to laugh.

Good one

What did she have to do with the vaccines?

a reply to: chr0naut

OMG Chro you know sometimes a frisbee can write over someone's head?

Uh anyway nothing never mind it was a stab at humor that I truly regret.

a reply to: chr0naut

I'm going to have to assume you deliberately ignored the ridiculously tight correlation on the graph presented, connecting the vaccines issued with spikes in excess mortality. Did you even look at it, or did you just shut your eyes tight & stick your fingers in your ears before singing something akin to:

"Lalalalala, if I can't hear it or see it then it isn't happening... Lalalala.."

Chr0naut, August 2022

a reply to: 1947boomer

He adds the wor "yet". Context is everything, and you just quoted him out of context. He clearly expects to be able to prove causality in the future, on the basis of the context. He just errs on the side of caution, as he is a scientist with an impeccable record, who wants to make sure the data is unimpeachable before he stakes his reputation on it.

We, on the other hand, can go ahead & state that it looks damn well certain that causality is demonstrated by the figures. The application of common sense is required, pseudo-skeptics need not apply, naturally (see what I did there?)

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

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No she didn't....

PA

a reply to: chr0naut

The whole idea of the plandemic is that someone anticipated what would happen.

Now you're making sh1t up. Plandemic simply is a term used to describe
how their might be an elite plan to release a virus on the population.
For nefarious reasons of which there are many. Truth be told.
Stop making sh1t up.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: chr0naut

I'm going to have to assume you deliberately ignored the ridiculously tight correlation on the graph presented, connecting the vaccines issued with spikes in excess mortality. Did you even look at it, or did you just shut your eyes tight & stick your fingers in your ears before singing something akin to:

"Lalalalala, if I can't hear it or see it then it isn't happening... Lalalala.."

Chr0naut, August 2022

Spurious correlations

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

The whole idea of the plandemic is that someone anticipated what would happen.

Now you're making sh1t up. Plandemic simply is a term used to describe
how their might be an elite plan to release a virus on the population.
For nefarious reasons of which there are many. Truth be told.
Stop making sh1t up.

So it's an 'unplandemic' now?

a reply to: chr0naut

So it's an 'unplandemic' now?

No Chro it's what ever you want it to be.

a reply to: Randyvine2

By now anyone who can't see a correlation between jabs and excess mortality just is not paying attention. Olivia Newton-John The seeker's girl the cricketer, a thousand top-line athletes in Europe. It is wake up time.

a reply to: anonentity

By now anyone who can't see a correlation between jabs and excess mortality just is not paying attention. Olivia Newton-John The seeker's girl the cricketer, a thousand top-line athletes in Europe. It is wake up time.

How do we do that their beds already on fire? If they burn they burn
we can't save everybody!

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
You are making a mountain out of a molehill. She said she faints because of pain. If she doesn't feel pain she isn't fainting and chances are she isn't feeling pain during her normal shift.

Another problem I have with this theory, in general, is that it would have been easier to just not air the video of her fainting instead of trying to explain it away.

It was live and they have completely scrubbed any trace of almost anything from the internet. It's been completely buried.

There was no death certificate. Somebody made a post on one of those family genealogy sites claiming that she was dead. Often times those sites are completely public and anyone can go in and edit, like Wikipedia.

How can you account for the public records of her buying a house last year with her husband? That is pretty telling to me (aside from all the pictures of her that you can find on family members' social media pages). You can find them on the recorders site, or look at the screenshots here

I don't blame her for going silent on Social Media due to people like you who would continually harass her.

originally posted by: charolais

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
You are making a mountain out of a molehill. She said she faints because of pain. If she doesn't feel pain she isn't fainting and chances are she isn't feeling pain during her normal shift.

Another problem I have with this theory, in general, is that it would have been easier to just not air the video of her fainting instead of trying to explain it away.

It was live and they have completely scrubbed any trace of almost anything from the internet. It's been completely buried.

There was no death certificate. Somebody made a post on one of those family genealogy sites claiming that she was dead. Often times those sites are completely public and anyone can go in and edit, like Wikipedia.

How can you account for the public records of her buying a house last year with her husband? That is pretty telling to me (aside from all the pictures of her that you can find on family members' social media pages). You can find them on the recorders site, or look at the screenshots here

I don't blame her for going silent on Social Media due to people like you who would continually harass her.

Go ahead and "edit" her ancestry.com family tree and let me know how that works out for you. I'll wait.

support.ancestry.com...#:~:text=Guests%20can%20only%20view%20the,one%2C%20and%20clicking%20Save%2 0Changes.


Also your tired argument of someone wanting to hide from the public is laughable. She volunteered to be the first in the world. Pharma should be parading her around left and right. But of course they don't because she's not alive.