'last minutes' of four-year-old girl's life before Russian missile attack

originally posted by: Cutepants

originally posted by: turretless
The conflict in Donbass was provoked by the West, it arose as a result of an anti-constitutional coup.

Even if we pretend you were right, what's the use of Putin pumping in weapons and billions of rubles into Donbas? All he has accomplished is to prolong the war for eight years, hundreds of thousands of victims. All because of one old man's stubbornness. Don't you think that money could better spent help Russia's economy recover?

a reply to: turretless

Can't you even bother to read the video description? She was deputy secretary of state.

Let's take stock when Putin announces the end of the special operation in Ukraine.

So explain why she was there at that moment?

And also, please explain to me why she discussed with the US Ambassador to Ukraine who should be in the Ukrainian government?

a reply to: turretless

Secretary of state is the American version of minister of foreign affairs, like Lavrov.

a reply to: Cutepants

I know her position.

Why was she there during the Maidan?

Why she discussed with the US Ambassador to Ukraine who should be in the Ukrainian government?

a reply to: turretless

Obviously to show America's support to the Maidan protests. Why do you think she was there, just handing out bread for fun?

Because they were forming a new government. Is this news for you, lol? What part is so difficult to comprehend? Are you implying that there was something illegal or immoral going on?

a reply to: Cutepants

If the US was going to make Ukraine its colony, then there really is nothing surprising in the fact that some US citizens decide who should be in the government of the country.

By the way, (I draw your attention to this) she said that Klitschko should not be in the government of Ukraine. (00:46)

Indeed, Klitschko did not enter the government of Ukraine but became the mayor of the capital city of Kyiv.

Do you think it is right that the one who forms the government forms the direction of the country's development?

a reply to: turretless

What makes you think that some US citizens decided who should be in the government of Ukraine? Where did that happen in the video?

Is she not allowed to express her opinion that Klitschko shouldn't be in the government? So the man he was talking to asked Klitschko to give her an audience, and maybe based on that he decided not to demand a seat in the government. Maybe he even preferred to be mayor of Kiev, who knows. But are you saying he was coerced or something?

Do you think it is right that the one who forms the government forms the direction of the country's development?

Sure, that is fair I think.

...and over here is a thread about children in Donbass being killed by Ukrainian shelling.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's getting harder and harder to separate who the good guys in this mess truly are.
Fog of War?...or maybe it's just bad guys fighting bad guys.

Whatever the case...it appears children are continuing to pay for the sins of their fathers...Same as it's ever been.

Or its just more Bull S### lies like everything else you guys keep falling for hook, line, and sinker

a reply to: Cutepants

As far as I understand, you expect evidence from me in the form of an official paper (with a seal and signatures) from the US government, which says that they appoint certain people to the government of Ukraine.

I'm sure the US government is not stupid enough to issue such documents.

Therefore, I cannot present this kind of undoubted evidence to you.

But I believe that it is in such private conversations of significant US officials (as between Nuland and the ambassador) that appointments to governments of other countries take place.

Do you think that after the Maidan a Russophobic government came to Ukraine?

a reply to: turretless

Well then it just seems strange to me that you make such accusations completely without evidence, while the president of Russia started a war in order to remove unwanted politicians in Ukraine. Doesn't that make you think? How strong is the brainwashing that causes you to deflect that guilt onto America?

But I believe that it is in such private conversations of significant US officials (as between Nuland and the ambassador) that appointments to governments of other countries take place.

What makes you think so?

Do you think that after the Maidan a Russophobic government came to Ukraine?

Not at all. I think it was a government that had a realistic understanding of Russia and how to deal with Russia. And their work is now coming to fruition.

originally posted by: Klassified

So this makes it ok to invade a soverign nation and for Mad Vlads troops to bomb and shoot people in their own homes, in their own country?
Russia also has big problems with corruption and neo-nazisim lets start bombing them as Mad Vlad has set an example now.

originally posted by: Klassified

...annnnnnd there it is...

...Your current Leftist MSM marching orders.

a reply to: Cutepants

I do not agree that my allegations are "completely without evidence."

Yes. This conversation is just a piece of the puzzle, but who says we can't find other pieces in the US financial and political documents?


Then explain to me why the confrontation between Ukraine and Russia has appeared and is constantly growing since the post-Maidan government came to power?

Could this have been planned by Ms. Nuland and her friends? "And their work is now coming to fruition."

a reply to: Kurokage
You conveniently left out my comment...

Neither side is innocent in this conflict, and it's no surprise the U.S. government and media has a hand in it.

None of it is okay, but don't tell me the Ukraine is a beacon of freedom and "democracy" in this conflict. They are far from it.

a reply to: IAMTAT

...annnnnnd there it is...

...Your current Leftist MSM marching orders.

Yep, just like they are starting to flip on Biden now.

a reply to: turretless

But why do you think their conversation is a piece in any puzzle in the first place? I'm saying that there was nothing wrong with advising the Ukrainians as they put together the interim government. I would have been very disappointed with the US if they didn't get involved.

Then explain to me why the confrontation between Ukraine and Russia has appeared and is constantly growing since the post-Maidan government came to power?

Because after that Russia is no longer able to control Ukraine's government.

Could this have been planned by Ms. Nuland and her friends? "And their work is now coming to fruition."

Yes! Are you really this slow to understand things? Try to keep up.

originally posted by: musicismagic
Bush
500000 died no bad reports.

This is about condemning all the wars that happen unprovoked.

Right now that war is the unprovoked attack against a free Ukraine.

Let’s talk about your precious Japan and the war atrocities they performed…..

No. That would be leading the thread in the wrong direction.

a reply to: turretless

Pretty sad isn't it, to see such a double standard continuing onward.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: turretless

Because after that Russia is no longer able to control Ukraine's government.

Now it's your turn to provide evidence that Russia controlled Ukraine before the Maidan.