Putin has doomed Russia

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Tarantula777

As this war continues Russia will be drained. This war will be like a vampire draining all Russia's blood slowly

I had being hearing that since Feb how has that being working out for NATO/US currently? it appears the poor EU has a little gas supply issue now that they had sanctioned Russia slowly.

Russia is still un affected.

How well has sanctioning being working out for the west/eu currently?

Germany one of the EU countries most reliant on energy imports from russia has recently reduced its projected gdP growth for 2022 from about 4% to 2%.

Russian best case scenarios show a GDP decline of 8%.

Doesn't look like sanctions are hurting the EU more than Russia.

Russias revenues have gone up since the start of the special operation.

Exports to India have gone up 6 fold and with China 3 fold.

The ruble is strong.

Russia can self sustain with food and energy, Europe cannot.

Russia is doing very well in Ukraine too. I believe Russia has a 1 million strong army.

a reply to: ScepticScot

That is going to hurt the Russuan economy

The countries within the BRICS organization dont seem to agree with your POV. The only ones that would be hurting their economy would be the EU and Europe.

The EU wont even likely exist by the next few short years from now.
From all the current civil unrest among other issues that EU is currently facing including in Italy.

The only one that wanted to drive EU out of Russia interest is the US.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ScepticScot

The sanctions that atre in place because Putin invaded Ukraine?

Because the G7 clowns wanted to look tough in front shirtless Putin riding a horse. The G7 politicians didn't even consider the consequences of their decisions when they were placing those sanctions.

Russia knew at some point that Germany wanted to get off their oil and gas supplies because Germany is bent on this green climate change.

Currently Germany and many countries in Europe have no alternatives to replace the current gas and oil with.
They have no LNG refineries.

The only European Nation that doesn't rely on Russian gas is Spain.
Even with the LNG alternatives it wont be able to replace what the gas/oil had being for Europe as i saw in a article from a month ago.

Russia is part of BRICS with China
Russia and China are brewing up a challenge to dollar dominance by creating a new reserve currency

China and Russia are unfitted into challenging West/US with their current model.

Because Putin invaded an neighboring country and seems to think there would be no consequences?

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Tarantula777

As this war continues Russia will be drained. This war will be like a vampire draining all Russia's blood slowly

I had being hearing that since Feb how has that being working out for NATO/US currently? it appears the poor EU has a little gas supply issue now that they had sanctioned Russia slowly.

Russia is still un affected.

How well has sanctioning being working out for the west/eu currently?

Germany one of the EU countries most reliant on energy imports from russia has recently reduced its projected gdP growth for 2022 from about 4% to 2%.

Russian best case scenarios show a GDP decline of 8%.

Doesn't look like sanctions are hurting the EU more than Russia.

Russias revenues have gone up since the start of the special operation.

Exports to India have gone up 6 fold and with China 3 fold.

The ruble is strong.

Russia can self sustain with food and energy, Europe cannot.

Russia is doing very well in Ukraine too. I believe Russia has a 1 million strong army.

Its GDP is crashing.

Exports to china etc aren't going to make up a fraction of the loss of trade with the EU.

It's army has failed miserably in Ukraine.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ScepticScot

That is going to hurt the Russuan economy

The countries within the BRICS organization dont seem to agree with your POV. The only ones that would be hurting their economy would be the EU and Europe.

The EU wont even likely exist by the next few short years from now.
From all the current civil unrest among other issues that EU is currently facing including in Italy.

The only one that wanted to drive EU out of Russia interest is the US.

Again fact free assertions

Reality is Russuan economy has been hurt far far more than the EU.

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Europe isn't able to sustain itself without Russia or China's assistance.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Exports to china etc aren't going to make up a fraction of the loss of trade with the EU.

You keep believing the same news media and their analysis and the "experts" that had being so far wrong in this conflict and had being wrong about Russia for nearly decades now.

These same experts that you are citing from had also claimed that the Syrian conflict would be an embarrassment for Russia and would withdraw from Syria in humiliating manner when in reality it was the opposite.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ScepticScot

Exports to china etc aren't going to make up a fraction of the loss of trade with the EU.

You keep believing the same news media analysis and their "experts" that had being so far wrong in this conflict and had being wrong about Russia for nearly decades now.

These same experts that you are citing from had also claimed that the Syrian conflict would be an embarrassment for Russia when in reality it was the opposite.

The Rusian GDP forecast comes from the Russian central bank.

You don't seem to have any facts ro back up tour claims so you ate substituting anecdotes, fact free assertions and whataboutisms.

a reply to: ScepticScot

seems to think there would be no consequences?

Why were there no consequences for the US and its conflicts or invasion of Libya or Iraq than? is it simply because they control or own those countries as vessel states?

a reply to: ScepticScot

The Rusian GDP forecast comes from the Russian central bank.

I know you are desperate and hoping to see Russian Collapse i got some news for you its not going to happen you should be more concerned with the way the EU and US currently are heading into a similar fashion.

The US has trillions in its own debt.

Your russophobia seems to cloud your judgement what is very likely going to happen in Europe soon.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ScepticScot

The Rusian GDP forecast comes from the Russian central bank.

I know you are desperate and hoping to see Russian Collapse i got some news for you its not going to happen you should be more concerned with the way the EU and US currently are heading into a similar fashion.

The US has trillions in its own debt.

Not desperate to see Russia collapse nor do I think it will happen. What will happen is that ordinary Russians will be far poorer for years, possibly decades as a result of Putins invasion.

What about the US debt? Has it defaulted and lost it's credit status or was that Russia?

a reply to: ScepticScot

If anyone is going to be more far poorer for years to come is in Europe with the EU leading the charge to that.

Europe's EU leadership following their master the "US" pressure to put sanctions is going to cost Europe heavily in the coming years.

Has it defaulted and lost it's credit status

Is that why your beloved US needs wars and conflicts to print more money to make sure its debt doesn't collapse? i dont remember a single era in the modern times where the US enjoy a moment of peace without conflicts or wars.

The US cost of living had being rising for many years now and these sanctions are going to make it even worse.
Every unlike that the far right party is going to change or do any different from the left if they do win a majority this year.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Russians will be far poorer for years

There had being Italian Families living inside vehicles in Italy for a year.
Has the Italian government done anything to make Italian lives better for them after years in power with this "Democracy of theirs"?

No.
Greeks that couldn't pay their homes to keep living inside their homes.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ScepticScot

Russians will be far poorer for years

There had being Italian Families living inside vehicles in Italy for a year.
Has the Italian government done anything to make Italian lives better for them?

No.
Greeks that couldn't pay their homes to keep living inside their homes.

Who knew there were poor people in every country...

Both italy and Greece have much higher GDP per capita than Russia and haven't wreked their economies by invading a neighbouring country.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: ScepticScot

If anyone is going to be more far poorer for years to come is in Europe with the EU leading the charge to that.

Europe's EU leadership following their master the "US" pressure to put sanctions is going to cost Europe heavily in the coming years.

Has it defaulted and lost it's credit status

Is that why your beloved US needs wars and conflicts to print more money to make sure its debt doesn't collapse? i dont remember a single era in the modern times where the US enjoy a moment of peace without conflicts or wars.

The US cost of living had being rising for many years now and these sanctions are going to make it even worse.
Every unlike that the far right party is going to change or do any different from the left if they do win a majority this year.

Again fact free assertions

Russias own central bank say otherwise.

a reply to: Tarantula777


IMO there are two likely possible outcomes for Putin's Russia. First, Putin's regime is on a death ride, akin to the Confederacy (U.S. Civil War) and Germany (WW1). But unlike with Germany and Japan (1945), unconditional surrender and occupying the defeated power isn't a viable option. So a narrow tightrope permits Putin's regime to survive the war in Ukraine.

Second, Russia joins North Korea as an international outcast, and trends toward regional and renewable energy production and trade accelerate. Unlike North Korea, Russia is less likely to experience energy shortages, providing their domestic economy remains afloat.

The wildcard is if Putin's regime faces a coup or Russia's dire economic situation. A successful coup would probably trigger a second Russian Civil War. Also, sufficient levels of political and economic instability might entice China to invade Siberia under the guise of liberation.

Putin's naked military aggression in Ukraine is a strategic blunder. Whereby it is possible to recover from tactical and operational errors, there is no recovery from ineffective or the absence of strategy. The Confederacy and Germany's (WW1 and WW2) defeats are historical reflections of that point, and the same applies to Japan in the Pacific war (1941 - 45).

a reply to: vNex92

Vassal states . with paid for career politicians, which are no longer even a shadow of independent democracies. If Russia attacked we would be defending a fantasy. It is not like there is anything to fight and overthrow. Just some weird vacancy filled with employees of large corporations who pretend to compete against each other. Who gets their time spent, paid in something called money that dissolves if you look at it. Nobody cracks jokes anymore, and a dismissive vacancy is the look of the decade as the sleepwalk continues. That's what the inside of a prison looks like, you are getting groped as you get on a plane. and considered guilty when no crime has been committed. Then constantly watched untill you do. Fed crappier food whose portions are getting smaller. Coerced to take medications that do not pass safety standards. How long can this in reality last....before it just dies, simply because everyone just loses interest and wants something real.?

originally posted by: Tarantula777

Putin can't possibly win against the West.

What about winning over the West in a deep and rapid economic recession?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Tarantula777

If anyone has tried to doom Russia before Putin and tried to steal resources out of the country without paying for them.

That would be your favorite Russian Leader Boris Yeltsin.

Exactly, The American puppet Boris Yeltsin
allowed the west to come in and rape Russia of it's natural resources. That is the reason why Vladmir Putin ended up as president.

How long can Russia keep manufacturing missiles and their launchers? How long can he keep maintaining a very expensive airforce that is the only strength he has? Again he can't match the whole West in the air.

They can keep manufacturing missiles and their launchers more than the US/West that keeps relying on China for cheaper products while sinking their own economy at the expense of others.

a reply to: turretless

The road to the west's recovery lies with regional trade and energy production. The Covid - 19 pandemic and war in Ukraine exposed the excess of globalisation and the vulnerability of global on-demand supply chains. But the interim period that we are entering is heading for stormy waters. For instance, Australia is facing an energy crisis, despite exporting coal and LNG. But Russia has no such path out of its self-inflicted strategic wounds.

Moreover, Russia's actions in Ukraine don't remove the threats posed to international security by the rise of China and non-state actors following on from ISIS's lead.