Putin has doomed Russia

Putin can't possibly win against the West.

Russia has a very small population. It is in its fourth year of decline and he is sending all those young men off to be slaughtered. Human resources alone are in short supply before we even consider the shortages they will soon face with all the military hardware too. Tanks have been ineffective. His soldiers are being lost and it is not sustainable to keep losing troops the way they are doing.



How long can Russia keep manufacturing missiles and their launchers? How long can he keep maintaining a very expensive airforce that is the only strength he has? Again he can't match the whole West in the air.

Russia has already lost over 30,000 troops. Imagine how many this will be in a year's time! Putin will not even have human resources to keep Russia going let alone fight a war that is costing him huge casualties.

I am looking at this objectively. If I was Putin with these odds I would not have done this. NATO already has 300,000 troops on stand by and the numbers are growing. It is no problem for NATO to put up an army of a million without affecting any state drastically.

Putin has done a Hitler. If NATO have to fight directly with all their land, sea and air power Russia will quickly be overpowered and starved of resources. Remember, this is just Ukraine that has held out against him. He has seriously bitten off more than he can chew.

The problem for the world and Russia is this: If Hitler could have had a button to press to take his enemies out with him when he lost and decided to commit suicide would he have pushed it? He was willing to watch his partner shot in the head so the answer is a firm yes. If Putin was placed in the same situation of the invader who loses, who does have a button to press, would he press it? I believe he would.

It would be up to those around him to either let him do it or stop him if they want to live. May be they would not let him do it? Who knows.

It is obvious when we look at all the resources figures that Russia is on borrowed time and can't sustain these kind of heavy losses. I feel bad for Russia. They could not escape this bleak doom Putin has brought upon them. On the bright side he and dictators like him will not be on this earth too much longer to ruin everything and hold it back in the barbaric past.

Why did you do it, Vlad? Would you destroy your own like this because your pride was wounded? You have indeed destroyed Russia and everything it has gained from doing business with the West. It will all be lost now and much more besides. It was always going to end like this for you. Did you not listen to the Christ you say you follow who told us the measure we use is measured out to us and they who live by the sword will perish by it? All you have earned from your life is to end up in history as just another Hitler monster. There will be no escape from that epitaph like there is no escape for Hitler. You are both entombed in your misdeeds and violence.

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a reply to: Tarantula777

If anyone has tried to doom Russia before Putin and tried to steal resources out of the country without paying for them.

That would be your favorite Russian Leader Boris Yeltsin.

How long can Russia keep manufacturing missiles and their launchers? How long can he keep maintaining a very expensive airforce that is the only strength he has? Again he can't match the whole West in the air.

They can keep manufacturing missiles and their launchers more than the US/West that keeps relying on China for cheaper products while sinking their own economy at the expense of others.

a reply to: Tarantula777

Putin can't possibly win against the West.

So far the sanctions seems to be working really slew for the west haven't they?

EU warns of fossil fuel ‘backsliding’ as countries turn to coal

Some Western politicians with NATO/US likely thought they probably thought after US/West, G6 Nations imposed sanctions on Russia.

Russia would face civil unrest within their nation forcing Russia to withdraw from their own backyard in Ukraine and leaving millions of Eastern Slavs with Russian roots speaking Ukrainians at risk from being massacred and killed??

Do you think for a minute that the Russians would allow for such a type of event to occur?

Sanctions on Russia are hurting West/EU more.

These so called powerful sanctions seem to be hurting North America and other European countries more than that they are hurting Russia. Likely due because many of them had just came out of the lockdowns and now these sanctions are hurting the supply industry even more.

Not sure what the G7/6 Leaders were thinking when they tried to punish Russia with these sanctions. But likely they knew that Europe would be also affected by the sanctions.

a reply to: Tarantula777

It is obvious when we look at all the resources figures that Russia is on borrowed time and can't sustain these kind of heavy losses

Russia is winning territories in Eastern Ukraine and if you cant see what Eastern Ukraine has and that are full of resources.
Russia is nowhere of having heavy losses compared to Ukraine.

Only some in the West/US with their crazy hellbent Russia/Slav hating war mongers are obsessed on prolonging this conflict in Ukraine to continue.

If the West had any interests on letting Ukraine win early in the start they would had.

a reply to: Tarantula777

I wonder:

~ How many Hypersonic misses does Russia have?

~ How many Nuclear warheads does Russia have?

~ How close is the Political, economic, and technologies ties between Russia and China?

If they decide to take on the USA it would not be just be Russia vs USA.

a reply to: Tarantula777

You do know and realize that Russia is part of BRICS along soon with Iran and African countries with some South American countries as well?

BRICS is a lot bigger of a organization than the G7.

What makes you think or claim that Russia has done a Hitler? or is about to lose?

Why did you do it, Vlad? Would you destroy your own like this because your pride was wounded? You have indeed destroyed Russia and everything it has gained from doing business with the West. It

Ask your politicians why is it that the US/NATO some western countries with US alignment are using Ukraine agaisnt Russia?

In order for them to destroy Russia and their culture?

a reply to: Tarantula777

Now do a similar analysis of the West. With regards to general readiness for conflict and past performance. Second world war Berlin was taken by Russia and won by Hitlers mistake opening a second front which ground down Germany. Korea a Stalemate. Vietnam and embarrassment Afghanistan is another embarrassment. Iraq is a quick occupation paid for by their oil a partial sucsess? . Underestimating Russia will be a tactical mistake. Sure they got their ass whipped in Afghanistan when the West gave the Taliban surface-to-air missiles realizing it was a mistake withdrew and suffered the Graveyard of Empires., and the Soviet Union collapsed. But more than likely those gifted missiles were used against the doners. War is a mug's game.
Hitler admitted in a conversation with the head of their Finish allies that he had underestimated Russia's tank production capacity. If the Motherland is directly attacked the place works like a well-oiled machine.

a reply to: pianopraze


So what, American's need unauthorized entry people into America to post signs at the internet highways asking for bread for their 7 children, that is all that matters these days. No honor is expected no more out of the gang in D.C.

a reply to: anonentity

Also Russia has experienced guerilla warfare from two wars.
Chechnya war and the Syrian conflict after 12 years with the Russian forces helping the Syrian government liberate areas from the rebels.

If the West/US,NATO are thinking of trying to pull another Afghanistan for Russia in Ukraine that wont work at all and why is that likely?

They would be fools by underestimating Russia.
I would assume many US right wing/left politicians believe that most Ukrainians would just dissent and rise up agaisnt Russians.
Some would but unlikely its why Russia refused to take Kiev the capital city from what i had seen of this conflict they know their own backyard.

Ukraine and Russia are part of the same Rus Historical people before Russia was even a thing.

The war mongers clearly dont know much of history in context expect for their slavphobia among other phobias.

Russia has already lost over 30,000 troops

According to which sources? the MSM or other officials? have you even bothered to see the headlines which for the first time that Ukrainian officials had admitted that their losses were in 100x higher.

When it comes to the conflict in Ukraine do not believe the MSM as heavily i am not saying Russian media is any different but west MSM thus far have not being doing a good job at reporting the conflict.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Tarantula777

Now do a similar analysis of the West. With regards to general readiness for conflict and past performance. Second world war Berlin was taken by Russia and won by Hitlers mistake opening a second front which ground down Germany. Korea a Stalemate. Vietnam and embarrassment Afghanistan is another embarrassment. Iraq is a quick occupation paid for by their oil a partial sucsess? . Underestimating Russia will be a tactical mistake. Sure they got their ass whipped in Afghanistan when the West gave the Taliban surface-to-air missiles realizing it was a mistake withdrew and suffered the Graveyard of Empires., and the Soviet Union collapsed. But more than likely those gifted missiles were used against the doners. War is a mug's game.
Hitler admitted in a conversation with the head of their Finish allies that he had underestimated Russia's tank production capacity. If the Motherland is directly attacked the place works like a well-oiled machine.

ATO is an alliance of 30 member states. In addition to the USA and Canada on the American continent, these are numerous European states. All member states together cover an area of 24.59 m km² and about 948.34 m people. This is 16.27% of the world's habitable area and 12.22% of the world's population.

GDP Russia: 1.483 trillion USD (2020)

GDP America: 20.94 trillion USD (2020)


The U.S alone has a huge economy compared to Russia and only twice the population. There are 30 wealthy states in NATO.

Putin did INVADE Ukraine. Ukraine held a democratic election and he did not like the result so he is trying to destroy them. This whole war is about his wounded pride.

Any analyst knows Russia is doomed. They can't hold out. Yes, they are making a few gains in East Ukraine, but what are they having to sacrifice to do this? Remember this is just an impoverished Ukraine he is fighting and losing so much for so little gain. His decision to do this was coming from anger and not politics. He knee jerked and this is the result. He can't escape the situation now. None of us can.

As this war continues Russia will be drained. This war will be like a vampire draining all Russia's blood slowly. I admit there were issues in Ukraine and Putin should have raised these concerns with the West, been reasonable about it and used political leverage/diplomacy. If he had done that by now there would have been some progress. What progress is this?

I don't pretend that the West is perfect. The West was not perfect with Hitler either. They sanctioned him very heavily to try and get him to cool it. Just because a country has some issues you don't invade and destroy the majority of the population. That is genocide.

In Rambo's limited vocabulary Russia drew first blood in all this to its own utter detriment. I did not want Russia to end up like this. I hoped that we could slowly work things out and bring the world together. It is Russia who rejected that vision and now must live the consequences.

War, in the finish, is about who can hold out the longest and who can keep replenishing their stock without blockades. This is who Russia is fighting now in the shadows and the dates of their joining:

Albania
2009
Belgium
1949
Bulgaria
2004
Canada
1949
Croatia
2009
Czech Republic
1999
Denmark
1949
Estonia
2004
France
1949
Germany
1955
Greece
1952
Hungary
1999
Iceland
1949
Italy
1949
Latvia
2004
Lithuania
2004
Luxembourg
1949
Montenegro
2017
Netherlands
1949
North Macedonia
2020
Norway
1949
Poland
1999
Portugal
1949
Romania
2004
Slovakia
2004
Slovenia
2004
Spain
1982
Türkiye
1952
United Kingdom
1949
United States
1949

Compare Russia's tiny GDP to all those countriues, most of which are healthy. Add to that all the other allies in Japan, Central/ South Americas, Africa. The West has stationed allies with armies all over the planet. Russia has practically zero troops anywhere else but in Russia and a few dead bodies now in Ukraine.

Putin should have carried on being the politician. He fell for his own romanticism. It was his weakness. He saw himself as a Messiah. He has proved to be a destroyer.

We can go through all the carnage again and end up with the same scenario. Personally, I would not want to see millions more young men die just to end up where we started from in a world of misery and post war ruin.

The more Russia escalate this the worse it will be for them in the long run. They can't even afford to open up one more front left to their own devices. Even this one front is proving to be unsustainable. I'm not playing propaganda here. I am being analytical and warning Russia it has made a huge and violent mistake. What more can I say? I am not your enemy. I care about Russian people too. I wanted you to be free like me and have all the goodies I have. It was happening for you too until THIS!

naw maybe his govt, but not Russia the people are a lot tougher than many in the west.

They will weather this and rebuild.

Vladimir is very popular on this site, this thread will be frowned upon...

a reply to: vNex92

The best outcome for the general population of Europe is to partner with the Russian Federation. The right-wing Nazis will do everything to stop this from happening, it will happen in the end but I fear a lot of blood will be shed. Most of Russia is European anyway. We are not dealing with the old Soviet Union. It's a balanced Capitalist economy. With vast resources with a willingness to develop it in partnerships, It was a gift, and a truly missed golden opportunity. because of the greed of the few. Whoever the present political tension is benefiting it is not the general population of Europe.

a reply to: Tarantula777

Putin did INVADE Ukraine. Ukraine held a democratic election and he did not like the result so he is trying to destroy them. This whole war is about his wounded pride.

he did not like the result so he is trying to destroy them

This conflict in Ukraine goes all the way since 2008 and 2014. You seem to be ignoring that the west had done several regime changes in Ukraine to push pro western politicians and remove any pro Russian/Chinese align officials in Ukraine over the past few decades.



This conflict is far more than what you claim of the nonsense pride.

This is who Russia is fighting now in the shadows and the dates of their joining:

Its funny you brought up North Macedonia. People were agaisnt joining NATO. The decision was based by their own government which ignored the will of the people.

The people in North Macedonia arent very support of NATO.

a reply to: Jay Electronica

Well i can see those who had being supporting NATO and regime changes in other countries are also suddenly popular.

They should blow up the rest of the world on the way out.

The hyperintelligent radiation cockroaches who shall inherit the Earth can build a more harmonious and tolerant society than Mankind ever could.

a reply to: Tarantula777

Any analyst knows Russia is doomed. They can't hold out. Yes, they are making a few gains in East Ukraine, but what are they having to sacrifice to do this? Remember this is just an impoverished Ukraine he is fighting and losing so much for so little gain. His decision to do this was coming from anger and not politics. He knee jerked and this is the result. He can't escape the situation now. None of us can.

You cant taken serious when considering you believe everything what those analysts had said so far they had being proven wrong.

Russia had being making a few gains?
Russia had being making gains in areas rich in resources that is something that Russia is very unlikely to give up now as easily as they did when the Minsk agreement had occurred.

He can't escape the situation now. None of us can

You are most right, and if you are believing into the nonsense that the west or Ukraine is going to win agaisnt Russia you are sadly mistaken.

You have the sanctions hurting more of Europe than that of Russia for which you seem to ignore.

a reply to: Tarantula777

The Current Russia of today is not the same Russia of the old that the we in the west are dealing with it.

The more Russia escalate this the worse it will be for them in the long run

Unfortunately it is opposite look at the prices of the food and fuel in many western countries for how long do you think that the western countries and its citizens can weather this?

Already there is a shortage of certain things.

Russia is unaffected.

Despite Russia's GDP numbers.
Look at the current status of the economy of the US things arent looking pretty are they? neither they are for many in western countries like in Europe.

originally posted by: Tarantula777

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Tarantula777

Now do a similar analysis of the West. With regards to general readiness for conflict and past performance. Second world war Berlin was taken by Russia and won by Hitlers mistake opening a second front which ground down Germany. Korea a Stalemate. Vietnam and embarrassment Afghanistan is another embarrassment. Iraq is a quick occupation paid for by their oil a partial sucsess? . Underestimating Russia will be a tactical mistake. Sure they got their ass whipped in Afghanistan when the West gave the Taliban surface-to-air missiles realizing it was a mistake withdrew and suffered the Graveyard of Empires., and the Soviet Union collapsed. But more than likely those gifted missiles were used against the doners. War is a mug's game.
Hitler admitted in a conversation with the head of their Finish allies that he had underestimated Russia's tank production capacity. If the Motherland is directly attacked the place works like a well-oiled machine.

ATO is an alliance of 30 member states. In addition to the USA and Canada on the American continent, these are numerous European states. All member states together cover an area of 24.59 m km² and about 948.34 m people. This is 16.27% of the world's habitable area and 12.22% of the world's population.

GDP Russia: 1.483 trillion USD (2020)

GDP America: 20.94 trillion USD (2020)


The U.S alone has a huge economy compared to Russia and only twice the population. There are 30 wealthy states in NATO.

Putin did INVADE Ukraine. Ukraine held a democratic election and he did not like the result so he is trying to destroy them. This whole war is about his wounded pride.

Any analyst knows Russia is doomed. They can't hold out. Yes, they are making a few gains in East Ukraine, but what are they having to sacrifice to do this? Remember this is just an impoverished Ukraine he is fighting and losing so much for so little gain. His decision to do this was coming from anger and not politics. He knee jerked and this is the result. He can't escape the situation now. None of us can.

As this war continues Russia will be drained. This war will be like a vampire draining all Russia's blood slowly. I admit there were issues in Ukraine and Putin should have raised these concerns with the West, been reasonable about it and used political leverage/diplomacy. If he had done that by now there would have been some progress. What progress is this?

I don't pretend that the West is perfect. The West was not perfect with Hitler either. They sanctioned him very heavily to try and get him to cool it. Just because a country has some issues you don't invade and destroy the majority of the population. That is genocide.

In Rambo's limited vocabulary Russia drew first blood in all this to its own utter detriment. I did not want Russia to end up like this. I hoped that we could slowly work things out and bring the world together. It is Russia who rejected that vision and now must live the consequences.

War, in the finish, is about who can hold out the longest and who can keep replenishing their stock without blockades. This is who Russia is fighting now in the shadows and the dates of their joining:

Albania
2009
Belgium
1949
Bulgaria
2004
Canada
1949
Croatia
2009
Czech Republic
1999
Denmark
1949
Estonia
2004
France
1949
Germany
1955
Greece
1952
Hungary
1999
Iceland
1949
Italy
1949
Latvia
2004
Lithuania
2004
Luxembourg
1949
Montenegro
2017
Netherlands
1949
North Macedonia
2020
Norway
1949
Poland
1999
Portugal
1949
Romania
2004
Slovakia
2004
Slovenia
2004
Spain
1982
Türkiye
1952
United Kingdom
1949
United States
1949

Compare Russia's tiny GDP to all those countriues, most of which are healthy. Add to that all the other allies in Japan, Central/ South Americas, Africa. The West has stationed allies with armies all over the planet. Russia has practically zero troops anywhere else but in Russia and a few dead bodies now in Ukraine.

Putin should have carried on being the politician. He fell for his own romanticism. It was his weakness. He saw himself as a Messiah. He has proved to be a destroyer.

We can go through all the carnage again and end up with the same scenario. Personally, I would not want to see millions more young men die just to end up where we started from in a world of misery and post war ruin.

The more Russia escalate this the worse it will be for them in the long run. They can't even afford to open up one more front left to their own devices. Even this one front is proving to be unsustainable. I'm not playing propaganda here. I am being analytical and warning Russia it has made a huge and violent mistake. What more can I say? I am not your enemy. I care about Russian people too. I wanted you to be free like me and have all the goodies I have. It was happening for you too until THIS!

You think Russian people aren't free? Hahahaha


Edit- NATO IS a gang, that's why they need 30 countries against Russia