Solar System Travelling to An Area Much Hotter and Denser Which Could Explain Climate Change.

i admire your research...... ideas and data which was totally dismissed by scientists-de Jour as the publishing dates and burried by media that is Beguiled with Global-warming/climate-change

i too kept my earhorn trained on the alt-media for further info on the solar system heating up as we entered an Molecular Cloud.... Alas, no stream of info ever developed because of the pop-culture circus mania on climate-change from industry and modern life energy needs


prior to 2004, under the avatar St Udio...i registered as riffraffalunas with a lot less than 10,000 posts and i did address both Space and Earth both heating due to cycles and radiation within each environment


the old scholars will pass, until then----- hang in there

Can the effects of a hotter region of the universe be mitigated on earth, at least for some time, by drastically reducing C02 emissions?

Global warming might not be directly caused by us, but if the problem slowly begins to threaten life as we know it on Earth, changing our way of life with it may make it more bearable and livable for generations.

That's my idea anyway.

The other option is a very human behavior and thinking as well.

"It's not our fault! They lied to us! Why would we have to change our lifestyles because of something we aren't responsible for?"

originally posted by: Thrumbo
Can the effects of a hotter region of the universe be mitigated on earth, at least for some time, by drastically reducing C02 emissions?

No.

If you claim otherwise, the burden of proof - and I do mean proof - is on you

Global warming might not be directly caused by us, but if the problem slowly begins to threaten life as we know it on Earth, changing our way of life with it may make it more bearable and livable for generations.

Again... prove it.

It is far, far more likely that this will be, as someone else suggested, an ELE, similar to what happened in the movie Knowing...

That's my idea anyway.

Having an idea or theory is one thing... suggesting that you have the power to massively disrupt the lives of everyone on the planet just because you feelz something is quite another.

Even if human CO2 output isn't effecting temperature averages, it is certain that industrialization is destroying environments. Male fish in my local river are growing female body parts due to estrogenic waste being dumped. Or maybe it's a pride month thing.

Can you be quiet please. There are thousands of dedicated climate scientists flying around the globe trotting out the same crap at conference after conference. How do you expect them to get by if you derail their gravy train

Hi Electric Universe;
Great research and thank you for your explanation...
Some conclusions, however, I am not so sure about.
Our star system completes its journey through the milky way every 25920 years
In our last cycle Earth has been going through heat periods/waves and an ice age and this must be a pattern, in each of this long year cycles. If this happened to Earth so it must have happened to our companions in our solar system.
So it is repetitive, and our solar system came through this fairly unharmed each time.

Now you state that the universe in total is heating up, and that may lead to catastrophic outcome within a period even as short as 80 some years... Did I read that correctly...?? This part seems to me unproven, as in that case we should have proof that the same warming is happening in our solar systems in our milky way, or in our galaxies, isn't it?

Best wishes//GeosAlien

Very interesting, climate change caused by the sun, angle of planet and what not changes the weather drastically.

We are close to the sun but not in its direct heat blast. A slight change could vaporize a majority of the planet

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

GTFOOH

Did we just learn our solar system is moving through space and the temperature varies?

Yeah. That is what I took from the OP as well. It makes complete and total sense that as we move through space and time that there would be variations in temperature and density whether our feeble instruments could record it or not. Good question.

We don’t live in a solar system floating about the universe. We live on a flat earth, under the firmament. Which separates heaven above from the earth below. Climate change is total BS

a reply to: Thrumbo

If CO2 was really the cause of CLimate Change, why is it that the most warming have occurred at the poles? At the poles the amount of vater vapor (The 1% is for water vapor content in Antarctica not CO2.) content in the atmosphere is at about 1% to less than 1%.

The cooler the atmosphere is, the less water vapor it can hold. Yet our poles have seen most of the warming. In Antarctica atmospheric CO2 is cooling the atmosphere.

By Thomas Sumner

December 4, 2015 at 8:00 am

In a cold corner of the world, carbon dioxide is doing something surprising. Instead of causing warming, rising CO2 levels over central Antarctica produce a net cooling effect, new research suggests.

That discovery does not undermine the fact that accumulating greenhouse gases raise temperatures elsewhere around the world (SN: 4/4/15, p. 14), the researchers say. The effect is instead a testament to the extreme and unique conditions in Antarctica’s interior.
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Rising atmospheric carbon dioxide actually cools part of Antarctica

Yet the most warming has occurred at the poles, and far away from sources of anthropogenic CO2.

People perhaps have forgotten, but despite claims that it was atmospheric CO2 warming our poles, we actually found that the glaciers were being warmed by underwater volcanoes. That's what has caused the melting in our glaciers.

Hidden Volcanoes Melt Antarctic Glaciers from Below

Just like Pluto, Charon, our own Moon, Mars, etc they have been experiencing a dramatic increase in warming. The interior of the Earth is heating up. In fact, some years ago it was found that the molten iron river that circulates the northern hemisphere of Earth has trebled in speed.

Deep below our planet’s surface a molten jet of iron nearly as hot as the surface of the sun is picking up speed.

This stream of liquid has been discovered for the first time by telltale magnetic field readings 3000 kilometres below North America and Russia taken from space.

The vast jet stream some 420 kilometres wide has trebled in speed since 2000, and is now circulating westwards at between 40 and 45 kilometres per year deep under Siberia and heading towards beneath Europe (see diagram, below). That is three times faster than typical speeds of liquid in the outer core.
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Why the jet is getting faster is more of a mystery. It may be related to the rotation of the inner core, which was found in 2005 to rotate a bit faster than Earth’s crust, says Xiaodong Song of the University of Illinois in Champaign, Illinois.
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Livermore thinks the acceleration of the jet is down to push-back from magnetic fields. The flow of iron generates the magnetic field, but, he says, the magnetic field may then be affecting the flow of the iron.
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Earth’s magnetic field seems to have been weakening, especially since around 1840, at about 5 per cent per century.

www.newscientist.com...

Molten iron river discovered speeding beneath Russia and Canada

What we saw happening in Tenerife is just the start. This interior pressure keeps increasing the more we enter this new region of the Interstellar Cloud. This is what is happening to every planet and moon in our Solar System.

It is the reason why they are emitting more warming than their own cores are capable to create alone.

We will see more and more volcanic activity, more earthquake activity, etc the more we enter this new region of the Local Fluff.

There are far more volcanoes underwater than above water.

There are at least 3 million underwater volcanoes, and many of them are larger than Mar's volcano Alba Mons.

The team estimates that in total there could be about 3 million submarine volcanoes, 39,000 of which rise more than 1000 metres over the sea bed.
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Thousand of new volcanoes revealed beneath the waves

There is also the research from the following USGS scientists telling us that the amount of earthquakes, their frequency and strength has been increasing as well. All of this is because of the pressure that is building up in the Earth's core.

The 2010–2014.3 global earthquake rate increase
Tom Parsons 1 and Eric L. Geist 1

1 U. S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park, California, USA
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1. Introduction

Obvious increases in the global rate of large (M ≥ 7.0) earthquakes happened after 1992, 2010, and especially during the first quarter of 2014 (Table 1 and Figure 1). Given these high rates, along with suggestions that damaging earthquakes may be causatively linked at global distance [e.g., Gomberg and Bodin, 1994; Pollitz et al., 1998; Tzanis and Makropoulos, 2002; Bufe and Perkins, 2005; Gonzalez-Huizar et al., 2012; Pollitz et al., 2012, 2014], we investigate whether there is a significant departure from a random process underlying these rate changes. Recent studies have demonstrated that M ≥ 7.0 earthquakes (and also tsunamis) that occurred since 1900 follow a Poisson process [e.g., Michael, 2011; Geist and Parsons, 2011; Daub et al., 2012; Shearer and Stark, 2012; Parsons and Geist, 2012; Ben-Naim et al., 2013]. Here we focus on the period since 2010, which has M ≥ 7.0 rates increased by 65% and M ≥ 5.0 rates up 32% compared with the 1979 – present average. The first quarter of 2014 experienced more than double the average M ≥ 7.0 rate, enough to intrigue the news media [e.g., www.nbcnews.com...]. We extend our analysis to M ≥ 5.0 levels, as many of these lower magnitude events convey significant hazard, and global catalogs have not generally been tested down to these thresholds.

2. Methods and Data

We work with the Advanced National Seismic System (ANSS) catalog of M≥ 5.0 global earthquakes for the period between 1979 and 2014.3 with a primary focus on the recent interval between 2010 and 2014.3 that shows the highest earthquake rates (Table 1 and Figure 1). A variety of tests suggest that the catalog is complete down to magnitudes between M=4.6 and M=5.2, depending on the method used to assess it (see supporting information). We examine a range of lower magnitude thresholds above M =5.0 to account for this uncertainty.
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profile.usgs.gov...

The two USGS seismologists who posted their findings are Tom Parsons and Eric L. Geist.

Underwater volcanoes, not climate change, reason behind melting of West Antarctic Ice Sheet

This is very interesting , but if there was so much proof of this uncontrollable heat up from non-terrestrial sources … Would not TPTB campaign this science as laws that curb carbon fuels ?
They would make tons of cash & possibly help postpone a coming ruin for a few thousand more years ?
Or what if our sun is getting hotter or emitting more , and that is warming up Pluto’s core with increase after it’s trip closest to a more active sun ?
Possibly Pluto’s core is active due to more sun output and it is heating up on it’s own further away from the sun ??
Who knows with any certainty, but it is getting hotter & the climate has changed drastically from my childhood in the early 70s-80s …
Much hotter & stranger weather every 5 years or so cycles .
Being without power due to extreme weather events & fire throughout all of America is becoming common & cyclical…
As a kid weather caused power outages seldom .. it was rare …. Temperatures , seasons , snow , rain etc..
was consistent & transitions were gradual for the most part .
Now it’s 87 degrees for two days then 52 degrees for a week … then five days of high 90s or more …
then it’s one last frost week until we move from spring to summer high temps in a two week period.
Everyone gets snow now it seems … Just waiting for hurricanes to start on the Great Lakes .. or blizzards in Texas on the regular..
No doubt the Earth is changing… how or why is a forever battle.. but can’t We all agree that We need Nuclear power & electric everything..
Im hoping for Fusion, but Im not hopeful of Fusion power anytime soon .. maybe a few hundred years before it’s viable & tested .
We need to stop abusing this planet .. wether it’s manmade , natural Earth cycles , cosmic heat nebula , Aliens or the Amish to blame … lets quit burning things for power …

excellent analysis and research, something is coming that they aren't telling us about, this may be it. I was thinking either a pole shift, solar cme, or magnetosphere and core failure, but this seems more reasoned. None of my favored theories seem to work with the heating up of the outer planets that wouldn't be affected by solar activity or earth events. I fear it may be imminent though ie before the end of summer.

a reply to: MeatHookReality
they don't want people to panic and stop working they need people producing until the end or there would be chaos and non allied military action to secure their underground cities and "offworld" launch sites.

originally posted by: justgetahouse1
a reply to: MeatHookReality
they don't want people to panic and stop working they need people producing until the end or there would be chaos and non allied military action to secure their underground cities and "offworld" launch sites.

Life is dangerous.. oh well .
What can be done about it ?
Relax & enjoy life instead of worrying about how your going to die & who is to blame .
We are on a sphere hurtling through a cosmic horror & us talking apes are lucky we made it this far .

originally posted by: GeosAlien
Our star system completes its journey through the milky way every 25920 years
In our last cycle Earth has been going through heat periods/waves and an ice age and this must be a pattern, in each of this long year cycles. If this happened to Earth so it must have happened to our companions in our solar system.
So it is repetitive, and our solar system came through this fairly unharmed each time.

Our solar system may have survived, rocks, gasses, metals etc... but what about the LIFE within it?

Imo there aren't any new discoveries that need to be made to explain climate change.

The climate changes. It always has.

originally posted by: Elvicious1

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

GTFOOH

Did we just learn our solar system is moving through space and the temperature varies?

Yeah. That is what I took from the OP as well. It makes complete and total sense that as we move through space and time that there would be variations in temperature and density whether our feeble instruments could record it or not. Good question.

there's more to it, than that...

as Our Galaxy rotates, our solar system, and many others, go with it like horses fixed on a merry-go-round platform

the rogue stars and comets & asteroids and molecular clouds which do not move along with the Milky-Way rotation are in vectors resulting from highly energetic events in the past (Novas ?) or else are remnants from our Galaxy cannibalizing a smaller Galaxy as happens a lot in the Cosmos

we do not know the history of the presently encountered 'hot' molecular cloud which is steadily enveloping our Solar System.... but there must be some Metaphor/Parable in religion to account this event that is 'dangerous' to all peoples/civilizations on Earth---> how could eschatology by a Divine Authority-Creator be unawares of such a catastrophe ?

#2.... why hasn't Voyagers 1 & 2 alerted Earth of this 'hot gas' approaching ? or were we notified already ?

see voyagers locations today: www.skymarvels.com...

Very nice research. Extremely interesting too. I read some time ago that our solar system is also passing through a region of heavy asteroid and comet activity i.e. a high density of debris that could cause a global extinction.

Haven't read all the articles yet, but I'm wondering why interstellar heat would affect our climate so drastically. Our climate is mostly governed by local events like volcanic eruptions, lower radiation from the sun.
Interesting stuff. Have to read more about it.

🙄

You answered your own question.

originally posted by: St Udio

originally posted by: Elvicious1

originally posted by: putnam6
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

GTFOOH

Did we just learn our solar system is moving through space and the temperature varies?

Yeah. That is what I took from the OP as well. It makes complete and total sense that as we move through space and time that there would be variations in temperature and density whether our feeble instruments could record it or not. Good question.

 

 

there's more to it, than that...

as Our Galaxy rotates, our solar system, and many others, go with it like horses fixed on a merry-go-round platform

the rogue stars and comets & asteroids and molecular clouds which do not move along with the Milky-Way rotation are in vectors resulting from highly energetic events in the past (Novas ?) or else are remnants from our Galaxy cannibalizing a smaller Galaxy as happens a lot in the Cosmos

we do not know the history of the presently encountered 'hot' molecular cloud which is steadily enveloping our Solar System.... but there must be some Metaphor/Parable in religion to account this event that is 'dangerous' to all peoples/civilizations on Earth---> how could eschatology by a Divine Authority-Creator be unawares of such a catastrophe ?

#2.... why hasn't Voyagers 1 & 2 alerted Earth of this 'hot gas' approaching ? or were we notified already ?

see voyagers locations today: www.skymarvels.com...

Yes it's not about knowing what specific incidences we may or may not encounter. It's that it is easy to hypothesize this scenario and it's being presented as oh now that must be what is causing global warming".

Certainly, we had some 2010 Copernicus-type physicist that could postulate, that space does have warm and cool spots, and we are moving through space at like 22,000 miles or something and it's likely we will hit these spots.

It's not like when haven't seen science theorize something and it becomes law recently