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originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: texasgirl
The point of this thread was the public believed the US “approved” Cominarty was already being sent to clinics for immediate use. That wasn’t the case. Everyone is still receiving the EUA one.
They are the same thing in different packaging.
If the vaccine is what caused your sisters death, the one in the comirnaty box would have also done the same.
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: opethPA
The source does not make something true or false.
It's real easy. If something is true and you can verify it there's no need to torture over if the source is reliable. If you make due diligence general practice this is less problematic because you realize they're all emotional political hacks.
As of right now there are no vaccines that have been "approved" available. This has been verified by me personally long before this news that they aren't making more. They never were going to be without the childhood vax liability shield. To believe they didn't know they wouldn't proceed is kinda outlandish since I knew it a long time ago.
That makes all the obfuscating tantamount to fraud. They didn't intent to make it, they avoided outright fraud by having the press and officials say "it's approved get in line", then it's all water under the bridge.
You've been getting lied to constantly, proven via plenty of reliable sources of your choosing. When are you going to say enough is enough? Nothing they claim can be taken at face value and the longer people continue to defend them to save face the longer this charade goes on. How many lies does it take? When do they no longer get the benefit of the doubt?
If you have some source for the approved manufacture process being used and product available post the source and we can discuss.
The point is that she was swayed by it's apparent approval. Getting the approval stamp means it's safe, right? Well, it wasn't for her.
originally posted by: texasgirl
originally posted by: research100
thank for supplying those facts I like to know medical before making a judgement ....Again I am so sorry you lost your sister....I can't say 100% the vaxx didn't cause the heart attack....but the numbers don't exactly back it up.....so let me ask if trump had been successful on jan 6 with his coup and got a 2nd term HE would have been in office when the vaxx was approved...I have my own story
was friends with a family for many years my other friend they were were literally more like family.to them ......this family thought covid was a big joke didn't want to wear masks.no vaxx ....well the offspring caught covid when visiting friends...he got it , it was like a flu for him and his mom and dad got it too.....mom posted it was really awful they all had underlying medical conditions.....dad ended up in the hospital.....a few weeks later the son wanted to call 911 his mom said she refused to go to the hospital so he couldn't call....she died....... a few months later the son killed himself.......a few months later the father died never did recover from covid never returned home.
It was terrible . very sad
texasgirl
Yes, it’s very sad but the flu does the same thing. The flu even kills kids.But did we all go hysterical, mask up and make everyone take a flu shot?
originally posted by: opethPA
originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: opethPA
The source does not make something true or false.
It's real easy. If something is true and you can verify it there's no need to torture over if the source is reliable. If you make due diligence general practice this is less problematic because you realize they're all emotional political hacks.
As of right now there are no vaccines that have been "approved" available. This has been verified by me personally long before this news that they aren't making more. They never were going to be without the childhood vax liability shield. To believe they didn't know they wouldn't proceed is kinda outlandish since I knew it a long time ago.
That makes all the obfuscating tantamount to fraud. They didn't intent to make it, they avoided outright fraud by having the press and officials say "it's approved get in line", then it's all water under the bridge.
You've been getting lied to constantly, proven via plenty of reliable sources of your choosing. When are you going to say enough is enough? Nothing they claim can be taken at face value and the longer people continue to defend them to save face the longer this charade goes on. How many lies does it take? When do they no longer get the benefit of the doubt?
If you have some source for the approved manufacture process being used and product available post the source and we can discuss.
So , I go back to my question...Why is the same standard applied to CNN, Wiki or whatever is considered a liberal site not applied to a self-defined conservative site like TGP?
What concept that you believe you have verified are you trying to make with this point, "As of right now there are no vaccines that have been "approved" available" I mean the fact that you can legally get any vaccine would , by logic, indicate that it is approved available. Maybe it's just getting lost in context, ideally though I hope you are willing to clarify this.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Conspiracy theorists seem to have a crystal ball. Last year there were countless sources that revealed anyone who got an mRNA shot from Pfizer was getting the EUA Pfizer BionTech shot and not the FDA approved "corminaty." It was this corminaty Biden and the mainstream media pointed to when claiming you could now get an FDA approved mRNA vaccine. Many people saw the bait and switch from a mile away, and corminaty was never available in the United States. The biggest distinction between the two is a legal one, with an EUA vaccine you can't sue for vaccine injuries, and with corminaty, you could theoretically.
Now Pfizer admits they will never produce corminaty and instead mentions some new formulation. This, less than a year after approving corminaty. This is why they teach you to always read the fine print.
Earlier this week, the notorious experimental vaccine maker quietly submitted an update to the CDC, admitting that its originally licensed “Comirnaty” vaccine will never be distributed for use.
In other words, Pfizer has exclusively been supplying its version of the experimental vaccine that was granted Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) by the FDA – aka, zero Pfizer-branded vaccines given in the US have been “fully approved.”
SOURCE
originally posted by: Irishhaf
Assuming the sources are legit... wonder how long till they admit everything else they claimed was a lie as well.
Then wonder how long till things get violent.
Spent years getting ready for chaos, finally agree have a child and here comes chaos at 1000 mph, turns out that light at the end of the tunnel was a rocket propelled train.
originally posted by: everyone
originally posted by: Irishhaf
Assuming the sources are legit... wonder how long till they admit everything else they claimed was a lie as well.
Then wonder how long till things get violent.
Spent years getting ready for chaos, finally agree have a child and here comes chaos at 1000 mph, turns out that light at the end of the tunnel was a rocket propelled train.
now there is a decision. Accept Phizer as a legit source or any other?
The thing is even when Phizer admits this like they do and you tell people they will still disregard it.
The vac does cause heart attacks. The manufacturers even acknowledge this now. You sound like you’re about 18 months behind. You’re welcome to join the rest of us in June 2022 any time now.
originally posted by: research100
I am very sorry about your sister.....you did not mention her age ,, whether she had any history of heart problems? other medical problems? obese? ( some people have a heart problem and don't know it) 221` million people in the usa have been vaxxed for the covid and 665, 000 people die in the usa each year (before covid happened) from heart attacks and this doesn't count in the other yearly deaths ...but if any of these deaths happen near to the time a person got vaxxed it is assumed it MUST be the vaxx so how do you know it was the vaxx ? you only mentioned Biden trump also told you to get vaxxed and he got vaxxed after getting covid so you should blame him as well..
now the heart attacks did go up a bit during covid and they found the reason was every time heart attack deaths went up there many patients in the hospitals with covid people having heart attack symptoms would stay away not wanting to get covid and hoping they weren't having a heart attack or that they could make it at home .......again that is terrible you lost your sister but if 221 million vaxxed and the vaxx causes heart attacks there should be many many more cases.....
originally posted by: texasgirl
a reply to: research100
My sister died two weeks after her vaccine, you fool. Because it was supposedly “approved” and Biden told everyone to get vaccinated NOW she felt it was okay, that it must be safe. She immediately developed heart issues and passed away from a heart attack in her sleep.
The point of this thread was the public believed the US “approved” Cominarty was already being sent to clinics for immediate use. That wasn’t the case. Everyone is still receiving the EUA one.
originally posted by: jidnum
originally posted by: everyone
originally posted by: Irishhaf
Assuming the sources are legit... wonder how long till they admit everything else they claimed was a lie as well.
Then wonder how long till things get violent.
Spent years getting ready for chaos, finally agree have a child and here comes chaos at 1000 mph, turns out that light at the end of the tunnel was a rocket propelled train.
now there is a decision. Accept Phizer as a legit source or any other?
The thing is even when Phizer admits this like they do and you tell people they will still disregard it.
the ego is crazy isn't it? People don't like to admit they were wrong.
originally posted by: texasgirl
a reply to: research100
I voted for Trump but I knew the vax was BS and stayed away from it. He’s partly responsible but he wasn’t out there bullying people and trying to get it mandated. That’s on BIDEN.