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a reply to: AaarghZombies
Leaky just means the virus is not eradicated 100% no? As with antiviral drugs the virus can then become resistant.
Leaky just means the virus is not eradicated 100% no? As with antiviral drugs the virus can then become resistant.
edit on 9-6-2022 by jos23 because: (no reason given)
a reply to: jos23
People in the UK are all doing fine and we are about 70% vaccinated with all 3 doses, some people even having a 4th.
Why are we all not dead yet?
No i don't think that and you don't have any proof other than the ramblings of lunatics to suggest otherwise.
Don't need to ask permission jos23, just mind and put it in the correct forum.
Its a simple question all the same hardly requiring a thread to address, how does Kali contact you or provide you with information?
But don´t you agree with Bossche that it is crazy to mass vaccinate with a leaky vaxx duing a pandemic?
People in the UK are all doing fine and we are about 70% vaccinated with all 3 doses, some people even having a 4th.
Why are we all not dead yet?
You risk giving resistant and even more dangerous variants an advantage over others don´t you think?
No i don't think that and you don't have any proof other than the ramblings of lunatics to suggest otherwise.
Perhaps i can start another thread about Kali. Will ask first.
Don't need to ask permission jos23, just mind and put it in the correct forum.
Its a simple question all the same hardly requiring a thread to address, how does Kali contact you or provide you with information?
"UK scientists believe it is 'almost certain' a coronavirus variant will emerge that beats current vaccines.
The goal, they say, should be "to reduce infection of and transmission from vaccinated individuals," and to "reduce the possibility of variant selection in vaccinated individuals."
edition.cnn.com...
This can´t be new knowledge right?
The goal, they say, should be "to reduce infection of and transmission from vaccinated individuals," and to "reduce the possibility of variant selection in vaccinated individuals."
edition.cnn.com...
This can´t be new knowledge right?
edit on 9-6-2022 by jos23 because: (no reason given)
a reply to: jos23
From you own article.
Virus mutate jos23 it part of their life cycle you see and new variants will continue to emerge.
So you are correct its not ""new"" knowledge in the slightest.
From you own article.
The analysis has not been peer-reviewed, the early research is theoretical, and does not provide any proof that such a variant is in circulation now.
Virus mutate jos23 it part of their life cycle you see and new variants will continue to emerge.
So you are correct its not ""new"" knowledge in the slightest.
edit on 9-6-2022 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)
a reply to: andy06shake
Yes but that the mass vaccination helps resistant variants to spread.
From the article:
"But they caution that these variants emerged "before vaccination was widespread," and that "as vaccines become more widespread, the transmission advantage gained by a virus that can evade vaccine-acquired immunity will increase."
Yes but that the mass vaccination helps resistant variants to spread.
From the article:
"But they caution that these variants emerged "before vaccination was widespread," and that "as vaccines become more widespread, the transmission advantage gained by a virus that can evade vaccine-acquired immunity will increase."
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: jos23
Put simply, no.
Why, you ask?
Because there is no evidence that the vax is "leaky", this also doesn't mean what you think that it means.
That was an early conspiracy that claimed that people who were vaxxed with the mRNA vax were turned into proteins factories, and that you could get vaxxed simply by sitting next to a vaxxed person and breathing in proteins that they breathed out.
No evidence that the vax is leaky? So it offer 100% protection and you will NEVER spread Covid to others eh? Bull Snippity!
The vaccines widely used by humans today -- especially those used to protect children against mumps, measles, and other potentially deadly ailments -- are what we'd call "perfect" vaccines. But new research suggests that "imperfect" or "leaky" vaccines -- ones that don't make their hosts totally immune to the disease and incapable of spreading it to others -- might have a surprising downside. For now, this so-called leakiness only exists in vaccines used to treat farm animals. But researchers warn that as humankind tackles bigger, badder diseases, we should keep the potential danger of leaky vaccines in mind.
I grabbed an old article from before the Covid
www.washingtonpost.com...[edi tby]edit on 9-6-2022 by TWS1969 because: spelling mistake
originally posted by: jos23
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Leaky just means the virus is not eradicated 100% no? As with antiviral drugs the virus can then become resistant.
Not in relation to covid, it means you shed the vax.
originally posted by: TWS1969
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: jos23
Put simply, no.
Why, you ask?
Because there is no evidence that the vax is "leaky", this also doesn't mean what you think that it means.
That was an early conspiracy that claimed that people who were vaxxed with the mRNA vax were turned into proteins factories, and that you could get vaxxed simply by sitting next to a vaxxed person and breathing in proteins that they breathed out.
No evidence that the vax is leaky? So it offer 100% protection and you will NEVER spread Covid to others eh? Bull Snippity!
The vaccines widely used by humans today -- especially those used to protect children against mumps, measles, and other potentially deadly ailments -- are what we'd call "perfect" vaccines. But new research suggests that "imperfect" or "leaky" vaccines -- ones that don't make their hosts totally immune to the disease and incapable of spreading it to others -- might have a surprising downside. For now, this so-called leakiness only exists in vaccines used to treat farm animals. But researchers warn that as humankind tackles bigger, badder diseases, we should keep the potential danger of leaky vaccines in mind.
I grabbed an old artcile from before the Covid
www.washingtonpost.com...[/qu ote]
That's not what it means with Covid, it refers to a specific conspiracy.
originally posted by: jos23
a reply to: andy06shake
Yes but that the mass vaccination helps resistant variants to spread.
From the article:
"But they caution that these variants emerged "before vaccination was widespread," and that "as vaccines become more widespread, the transmission advantage gained by a virus that can evade vaccine-acquired immunity will increase."
That merely means that one variant might become dominant while others fad out because the vax is less effective against it. It's not an argument against vaxxing. If anything it's an argument for updating the existing vax.
a reply to: jos23
And yet we are doing just fine with COVID 19 seemingly under control jos23 at least for the time being.
Again mate viruses mutate, its part of their life cycle, and they become more resistant to our vaccines.
Hence the reason we tweak the likes of flu vaccines every year in an attempt to guess the magic strain.
Yes but that the mass vaccination helps resistant variants to spread.
And yet we are doing just fine with COVID 19 seemingly under control jos23 at least for the time being.
Again mate viruses mutate, its part of their life cycle, and they become more resistant to our vaccines.
Hence the reason we tweak the likes of flu vaccines every year in an attempt to guess the magic strain.
edit on 9-6-2022 by
andy06shake because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: jos23
a reply to: andy06shake
Yes but that the mass vaccination helps resistant variants to spread.
From the article:
"But they caution that these variants emerged "before vaccination was widespread," and that "as vaccines become more widespread, the transmission advantage gained by a virus that can evade vaccine-acquired immunity will increase."
That merely means that one variant might become dominant while others fad out because the vax is less effective against it. It's not an argument against vaxxing. If anything it's an argument for updating the existing vax.
I doubt science would win that race with so much immune pressure from billions of people helping resistant variants to spread.
You will just get more and more dangerous variants don´t you think?
edit on 9-6-2022 by jos23 because: (no reason given)
a reply to: jos23
There is not anything else in the race but science jos23.
Or if you can show me another methodology that works and that applies where medicine and the treatment of disease is concerned i will be rather surprised?
There is not anything else in the race but science jos23.
Or if you can show me another methodology that works and that applies where medicine and the treatment of disease is concerned i will be rather surprised?
edit on 9-6-2022 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)
a reply to: andy06shake
It´s scientists vs the evolutionary power of a virus no?
Why would the virus not find a way to eradicate us if we threaten to eradicate it constantly without real success?
It´s scientists vs the evolutionary power of a virus no?
Why would the virus not find a way to eradicate us if we threaten to eradicate it constantly without real success?
originally posted by: jos23
a reply to: andy06shake
It´s scientists vs the evolutionary power of a virus no?
Why would the virus not find a way to eradicate us if we threaten to eradicate it constantly without real success?
Especially when we supercharged it in a lab
a reply to: jos23
Say what now?
Because they are not sentient springs to mind. LoL
You do realize viruses and pathogens don't actually want to kill all of their human hosts, because they would eventually have nowhere to live.
It´s scientists vs the evolutionary power of a virus no?
Say what now?
Why would the virus not find a way to eradicate us if we threaten to eradicate it constantly without real success?
Because they are not sentient springs to mind. LoL
You do realize viruses and pathogens don't actually want to kill all of their human hosts, because they would eventually have nowhere to live.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: jos23
It´s scientists vs the evolutionary power of a virus no?
Say what now?
Why would the virus not find a way to eradicate us if we threaten to eradicate it constantly without real success?
Because they are not sentient springs to mind. LoL
You do realize viruses and pathogens don't actually want to kill all of their human hosts, because they would eventually have nowhere to live.
It just "wants" to spread. Usually a very dangerous virus will not spread well but because so many more got the shot the risk is higher that dangerous variants now can.
I´m wrong?
originally posted by: TWS1969
originally posted by: jos23
a reply to: andy06shake
It´s scientists vs the evolutionary power of a virus no?
Why would the virus not find a way to eradicate us if we threaten to eradicate it constantly without real success?
Especially when we supercharged it in a lab
Yeah absolutely.
a reply to: jos23
Well, Virus transmission can occur through multiple pathways depending on the pathogen in question, I dont know about "wants" all the same.
Again virus transmission can depend on multiple factors same with the lethality of such.
"Dangerous variants now can" what?
It just "wants" to spread.
Well, Virus transmission can occur through multiple pathways depending on the pathogen in question, I dont know about "wants" all the same.
Usually a very dangerous virus will not spread well but because so many more got the shot the risk is higher that dangerous variants now can.
I´m wrong?
Again virus transmission can depend on multiple factors same with the lethality of such.
"Dangerous variants now can" what?
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: jos23
It just "wants" to spread.
Well, Virus transmission can occur through multiple pathways depending on the pathogen in question, I dont know about "wants" all the same.
Usually a very dangerous virus will not spread well but because so many more got the shot the risk is higher that dangerous variants now can.
I´m wrong?
Again virus transmission can depend on multiple factors same with the lethality of such.
"Dangerous variants now can" what?
Yes but with the mass vaccination with leaky vaxx the world is like a giant gain of function lab as i see it.
edit on 9-6-2022 by jos23 because: (no reason given)