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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Wrong on everything.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: ancientlight
Sigh. The difference is that seatbelts clearly work and prevent someone from being projected through the front windshield. Unlike these gene-therapy 'vaccines' that carry more risk/side-effects than a 99% survival rate gain of function bio-weapon. Also, the way the same people who are responsible for the plandemic are pushing this 'vaccine' makes me very suspicious. I do not trust these 'people' at all. They do not have our best interests at heart.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
Neither do the seatbelt/car manufactures, but they were losing money so they had to.
The vaccines are not gene therapies.
They are also vaccines by US dictionary definition (not that it actually matters).
According to the Johns Hopkins data, in July 2020, COVID-19 in the USA had a pre-vaccine case fatality ratio (CFR) of 5.8%, which is a disease survivablility of 94.2%. Now after the vaccines, and new variants, the CFR is 1.193%, which is still higher than the 1% you suggested. Since the start of the pandemic 1,007,685 have died in the US with COVID-19 coded as cause of death. That is 1 death from COVID-19 for every 334 people in the US.
There is no actual hard evidence that suggests that any gain-of-function research was done. Nearly every 'investigation' in the media centers entirely around funding, as if funding research was the same as gain of function.
Additionally, if it were a bio-weapon, and it is only 1% effective, it is a total failure. But you don't even seem to be aware of the contradictions in the things you allege.
The people who made-up the movie "Plandemic" are not in any way associated with those who made the vaccines.
The mRNA vaccines are gene therapy, by definition
, and literally. And not only that there are multiple studies that show they modify nuclear DNA.
Futhermore, every Covid death isn't caused buy Covid just because they tried to inflate the numbers by using died WITH covid versus died FROM covid. You are using every single debunked narrative from a year ago.
The mRNA drugs have a negative efficacy according to ONS data.
No matter how much they try to manipulate or hide the data by not reporting it, the vaccines have less than a 50% efficacy which is what is required for an EUA. And by less than 50%, a negative percentage is lower than 50%.
Basically you're just copy pasting fauci's narratives like you always do.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
You mean seatbelts made of razor blades? That kind?
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: ancientlight
Sigh. The difference is that seatbelts clearly work and prevent someone from being projected through the front windshield. Unlike these gene-therapy 'vaccines' that carry more risk/side-effects than a 99% survival rate gain of function bio-weapon. Also, the way the same people who are responsible for the plandemic are pushing this 'vaccine' makes me very suspicious. I do not trust these 'people' at all. They do not have our best interests at heart.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
Neither do the seatbelt/car manufactures, but they were losing money so they had to.
The vaccines are not gene therapies.
They are also vaccines by US dictionary definition (not that it actually matters).
According to the Johns Hopkins data, in July 2020, COVID-19 in the USA had a pre-vaccine case fatality ratio (CFR) of 5.8%, which is a disease survivablility of 94.2%. Now after the vaccines, and new variants, the CFR is 1.193%, which is still higher than the 1% you suggested. Since the start of the pandemic 1,007,685 have died in the US with COVID-19 coded as cause of death. That is 1 death from COVID-19 for every 334 people in the US.
There is no actual hard evidence that suggests that any gain-of-function research was done. Nearly every 'investigation' in the media centers entirely around funding, as if funding research was the same as gain of function.
Additionally, if it were a bio-weapon, and it is only 1% effective, it is a total failure. But you don't even seem to be aware of the contradictions in the things you allege.
The people who made-up the movie "Plandemic" are not in any way associated with those who made the vaccines.
originally posted by: PorteurDeMort
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: ancientlight
Sigh. The difference is that seatbelts clearly work and prevent someone from being projected through the front windshield. Unlike these gene-therapy 'vaccines' that carry more risk/side-effects than a 99% survival rate gain of function bio-weapon. Also, the way the same people who are responsible for the plandemic are pushing this 'vaccine' makes me very suspicious. I do not trust these 'people' at all. They do not have our best interests at heart.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
Neither do the seatbelt/car manufactures, but they were losing money so they had to.
The vaccines are not gene therapies.
They are also vaccines by US dictionary definition (not that it actually matters).
According to the Johns Hopkins data, in July 2020, COVID-19 in the USA had a pre-vaccine case fatality ratio (CFR) of 5.8%, which is a disease survivablility of 94.2%. Now after the vaccines, and new variants, the CFR is 1.193%, which is still higher than the 1% you suggested. Since the start of the pandemic 1,007,685 have died in the US with COVID-19 coded as cause of death. That is 1 death from COVID-19 for every 334 people in the US.
There is no actual hard evidence that suggests that any gain-of-function research was done. Nearly every 'investigation' in the media centers entirely around funding, as if funding research was the same as gain of function.
Additionally, if it were a bio-weapon, and it is only 1% effective, it is a total failure. But you don't even seem to be aware of the contradictions in the things you allege.
The people who made-up the movie "Plandemic" are not in any way associated with those who made the vaccines.
Are you being paid to shill for the pharmaceutical companies? There is definitely proof that gain of function was carried out and that Fauci and the NIH sponsored it.
There is proof that Bill Gates was involved in the planning of it's release
and his involvement in the vaccines which are totally ineffective and have insane side effects. Either you're asleep or a shill. Which one is it?
You posted nothing but MSM sites, all sponsored by Gates & Soros themselves . I won't waste my time trying to talk sense with you , it's hopeless , just like with most lefties on this site. Can't reason with insanity
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Wrong on everything.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: ancientlight
Sigh. The difference is that seatbelts clearly work and prevent someone from being projected through the front windshield. Unlike these gene-therapy 'vaccines' that carry more risk/side-effects than a 99% survival rate gain of function bio-weapon. Also, the way the same people who are responsible for the plandemic are pushing this 'vaccine' makes me very suspicious. I do not trust these 'people' at all. They do not have our best interests at heart.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
Neither do the seatbelt/car manufactures, but they were losing money so they had to.
The vaccines are not gene therapies.
They are also vaccines by US dictionary definition (not that it actually matters).
According to the Johns Hopkins data, in July 2020, COVID-19 in the USA had a pre-vaccine case fatality ratio (CFR) of 5.8%, which is a disease survivablility of 94.2%. Now after the vaccines, and new variants, the CFR is 1.193%, which is still higher than the 1% you suggested. Since the start of the pandemic 1,007,685 have died in the US with COVID-19 coded as cause of death. That is 1 death from COVID-19 for every 334 people in the US.
There is no actual hard evidence that suggests that any gain-of-function research was done. Nearly every 'investigation' in the media centers entirely around funding, as if funding research was the same as gain of function.
Additionally, if it were a bio-weapon, and it is only 1% effective, it is a total failure. But you don't even seem to be aware of the contradictions in the things you allege.
The people who made-up the movie "Plandemic" are not in any way associated with those who made the vaccines.
The mRNA vaccines are gene therapy, by definition
The latest antivax false claim: mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 are not vaccines but “medical devices” or “gene therapy”
Are mRNA Vaccines Gene Therapy?
Chance That COVID-19 Vaccines Are Gene Therapy? 'Zero'
Pfizer-BioN Tech And Moderna mRNA Vaccines Are Not Gene Therapies
What is Gene Therapy?
FA LSE: A Bayer pharmaceutical executive admitted that messenger RNA vaccines are cell and gene therapies.
, and literally. And not only that there are multiple studies that show they modify nuclear DNA.
Then link to one. A real one, peer reviewed, and not an opinion piece, letter to the editor, or unreviewed preprint.
Futhermore, every Covid death isn't caused buy Covid just because they tried to inflate the numbers by using died WITH covid versus died FROM covid. You are using every single debunked narrative from a year ago.
When people get sick with COVID-19, most of them have symptoms. Although some of the symptoms are similar to other diseases, there are symptoms that seem fairly specific to COVID-19, like loss of smell and taste. And, we also now have diagnostic tests which are fairly reliable, and which can differentiate between COVID-19 and similar diseases.
Some of the people who get COVID-19 develop severe symptoms and go to hospital. It is normal these days to test every hospital inpatient for COVID-19, so there is no doubt about the infection status of anyone who is hospitalized.
Some of those who are hospitalized with COVID-19 develop very severe symptoms and are admitted to ICU. These people have difficulty breathing and if their condition worsens and they do not respond to therapeutics, they may even be intubated as a last resort. It is these people who are in ICU and are worsening, that die of COVID-19.
Although there are a cascade of biologic failures that may lead to death from COVID-19 (called comorbidities), it is pretty obvious what the cause of death is.
None of the people who die from COVID-19, inside a hospital, or outside of it, are symptom-less. The death from COVID-19 is the last of a worsening progression of symptoms and there is no confusion over what killed them.
Also, there is no disease ever, that is not made worse by other disease or contributing factors. To suggest that people are dying of everything else, and just being marked as having COVID-19, is moronically stupid.
The people who write up the death certificate data are not some special master administrator hidden in the tunnels of healthcare, the death certificates are usually filled out by the attending doctor. To have these people pointlessly lying about the death certificate data, would make that data useless for planning healthcare resources or in prevention of disease. It would also require hundreds of thousands of qualified medical personnel, worldwide, to knowingly lie in some sort of incredibly convoluted conspiracy.
In short, if you are still using that same old and very flimsy excuse to not evaluate the data, you haven't put much thought into it.
The mRNA drugs have a negative efficacy according to ONS data.
How can that happen? That would imply that the vaccines give people COVID-19. There is no indication that the vaccines do so.
COVID-19 was spreading to more and more people before the vaccines, and has continued spreading in a roughly similar manner. This does not mean the vaccines are a failure, because uptake is very poor and took some time to get to where it is today. The ONS data shows that more people were vaccinated but still got COVID-19. At some stage, this was likely to happen as the vaccine campaigns progressed and fewer people were un-vaccinated.
No matter how much they try to manipulate or hide the data by not reporting it, the vaccines have less than a 50% efficacy which is what is required for an EUA. And by less than 50%, a negative percentage is lower than 50%.
Basically you're just copy pasting fauci's narratives like you always do.
All the vaccines against COVID-19 used in Western countries are above 70% efficacy for all strains of SARS-CoV-2:
COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Monthly Update
originally posted by: ancientlight
You posted nothing but MSM sites, all sponsored by Gates & Soros themselves . I won't waste my time trying to talk sense with you , it's hopeless , just like with most lefties on this site. Can't reason with insanity
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: ancientlight
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
The vaccines are not gene therapies.
They are also vaccines by US dictionary definition (not that it actually matters).
According to the Johns Hopkins data, in July 2020, COVID-19 in the USA had a pre-vaccine case fatality ratio (CFR) of 5.8%, which is a disease survivablility of 94.2%. Now after the vaccines, and new variants, the CFR is 1.193%, which is still higher than the 1% you suggested. Since the start of the pandemic 1,007,685 have died in the US with COVID-19 coded as cause of death. That is 1 death from COVID-19 for every 334 people in the US.
There is no actual hard evidence that suggests that any gain-of-function research was done. Nearly every 'investigation' in the media centers entirely around funding, as if funding research was the same as gain of function.
Additionally, if it were a bio-weapon, and it is only 1% effective, it is a total failure. But you don't even seem to be aware of the contradictions in the things you allege.
The people who made-up the movie "Plandemic" are not in any way associated with those who made the vaccines.
The latest antivax false claim: mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 are not vaccines but “medical devices” or “gene therapy”
Are mRNA Vaccines Gene Therapy?
Chance That COVID-19 Vaccines Are Gene Therapy? 'Zero'
Pfizer-BioN Tech And Moderna mRNA Vaccines Are Not Gene Therapies
What is Gene Therapy?
FA LSE: A Bayer pharmaceutical executive admitted that messenger RNA vaccines are cell and gene therapies.
, and literally. And not only that there are multiple studies that show they modify nuclear DNA.
Then link to one. A real one, peer reviewed, and not an opinion piece, letter to the editor, or unreviewed preprint.
When people get sick with COVID-19, most of them have symptoms. Although some of the symptoms are similar to other diseases, there are symptoms that seem fairly specific to COVID-19, like loss of smell and taste. And, we also now have diagnostic tests which are fairly reliable, and which can differentiate between COVID-19 and similar diseases.
Some of the people who get COVID-19 develop severe symptoms and go to hospital. It is normal these days to test every hospital inpatient for COVID-19, so there is no doubt about the infection status of anyone who is hospitalized.
Some of those who are hospitalized with COVID-19 develop very severe symptoms and are admitted to ICU. These people have difficulty breathing and if their condition worsens and they do not respond to therapeutics, they may even be intubated as a last resort. It is these people who are in ICU and are worsening, that die of COVID-19.
Although there are a cascade of biologic failures that may lead to death from COVID-19 (called comorbidities), it is pretty obvious what the cause of death is.
None of the people who die from COVID-19, inside a hospital, or outside of it, are symptom-less. The death from COVID-19 is the last of a worsening progression of symptoms and there is no confusion over what killed them.
Also, there is no disease ever, that is not made worse by other disease or contributing factors. To suggest that people are dying of everything else, and just being marked as having COVID-19, is moronically stupid.
The people who write up the death certificate data are not some special master administrator hidden in the tunnels of healthcare, the death certificates are usually filled out by the attending doctor. To have these people pointlessly lying about the death certificate data, would make that data useless for planning healthcare resources or in prevention of disease. It would also require hundreds of thousands of qualified medical personnel, worldwide, to knowingly lie in some sort of incredibly convoluted conspiracy.
In short, if you are still using that same old and very flimsy excuse to not evaluate the data, you haven't put much thought into it.
The mRNA drugs have a negative efficacy according to ONS data.
How can that happen? That would imply that the vaccines give people COVID-19. There is no indication that the vaccines do so.
COVID-19 was spreading to more and more people before the vaccines, and has continued spreading in a roughly similar manner. This does not mean the vaccines are a failure, because uptake is very poor and took some time to get to where it is today. The ONS data shows that more people were vaccinated but still got COVID-19. At some stage, this was likely to happen as the vaccine campaigns progressed and fewer people were un-vaccinated.
No matter how much they try to manipulate or hide the data by not reporting it, the vaccines have less than a 50% efficacy which is what is required for an EUA. And by less than 50%, a negative percentage is lower than 50%.
Basically you're just copy pasting fauci's narratives like you always do.
All the vaccines against COVID-19 used in Western countries are above 70% efficacy for all strains of SARS-CoV-2:
COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Monthly Update
a reply to: drewlander
For what purpose? To put your immune system on a subscription?
originally posted by: ancientlight
a reply to: chr0naut
I do not trust these 'people' at all. They do not have our best interests at heart.
Neither do the seatbelt/car manufactures, but they were losing money so they had to.
Soros invests in Europe, where the SEC can't touch him,
I'm sure and Gates concentrates on medical humanitarian investment.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.
The nice thing about seatbelts, they don’t enter your body (if you’re wearing them right). When you get out of the car, you take it off. Hardly comparable to a still experimental injection we need to bare every few months if we want to have the right to employment, participate in society etc. but keep mental gymnastics alive! It’s gained a real resurgence lately.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Some people pushed for laws that require people to wear seatbelts in automotive vehicles.
These people clearly anticipated a vast number of traffic accidents
It was clearly a 'plandemolitionderby'.