The West is draining Ukraine

originally posted by: baggy7981

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Did Putin also destroy the Tower of Babel? Maybe by chance?

Did you know Russia stole some of the land under the Tower of Pisa? It's true, that's why it leans over!!

Oh yeah!
Putin also accidentally, completely by accident, stole land in the Mojave, and so the area became a desert 282 feet below sea level.
Putin, return foreign land, return American 282 feet.))))))))))))))))))))))))

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: RussianTroll

I'm just saying, you can be Armenian living in Moscow, or Muscovite in Armenia. Ethnicity is not determined by geography.

There is no such nationality in the world - "Muscovite". I don't know, maybe it exists in your world))))

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: baggy7981

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Did Putin also destroy the Tower of Babel? Maybe by chance?

Did you know Russia stole some of the land under the Tower of Pisa? It's true, that's why it leans over!!

Oh yeah!
Putin also accidentally, completely by accident, stole land in the Mojave, and so the area became a desert 282 feet below sea level.
Putin, return foreign land, return American 282 feet.))))))))))))))))))))))))

Do either of you think that nonsense is ever going to distract from the fact that russia invaded Ukraine to steal it's territory again?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: RussianTroll

Well Sweden is stereotypically a gay country, people make fun of them for being so liberal. I was actually talking to an Armenian from Moscow recently, and he said that Sweden is known for incest? Is that a Russian meme about Sweden? I hadn't heard that one before.

russian government teevee has been pushing similar nonsense for a while now, and most russians appear to be brainwashed into believing everything their teevee tells them to.

Links to Russian TV, please)))

I don't have that ability with the device I use for ATS, but the last Speak The Truth episode posted in the Update thread has pretty good examples of russian government teevee nonsense, and one of his previous episodes has a brief bit about that Sweden nonsense.

russian teevee is difficult to access from here.




Here is that latest eposide:

You just confessed to your own lies.

Everyone understood!

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Grimpachi

The families of the vast majority of people of Russian extraction who live in the Donbas region moved there during the late 40's and 1950's.
Many were forcibly moved there by Stalin and later Khrushchev to work in the newly industrialised urban towns and cities.

They haven't lived there for generations unlike the Ukrainian people in the region, they were there as the result of a concerted effort by Soviet leaders to counter nationalist tendencies in Ukraine and other suppressed regions of Soviet Russia.
At the same time many Ukrainians were forcibly expelled from their ancestral homeland and relocated elsewhere in Russia - mainly in the east.

The Donbas is not some sort of historic Russian heartland, not by any stretch.

The Russian tsars did not know that they were founding Ukrainian cities

a reply to: RussianTroll


I did no such thing, I copied the existing link already available in the Update thread.

a reply to: RussianTroll


Did those tsars just invade modern day Ukraine to steal it's territory?


What do you think your 'tsars' would think about russia intentionally destroying the beautiful cities they founded long ago?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: RussianTroll


I did no such thing, I copied the existing link already available in the Update thread.

Links to Russian TV, confirming your words, please.

Links, not excuses.

a reply to: NoMoreFools

Perhaps you missed where I said they invaded the invaders.

Here I will quote it.

Russia invaded the evil invader's lands that is true.

As for the Nazis, how many countries put up statues of WW2 Nazi SS Officers?







How about WW2 nazis on national stamps?



How many countries have nationalized Nazi Militias into their regular military or how about putting them in charge of special police operations like the SBU?






Have you not noticed the good looking emblem below being paraded all throughout Ukraine



I am sure MSM has you convinced they are good Nazis



I realize my position isn't popular but that is OK.



I don't mind being the odd one out.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: RussianTroll


Did those tsars just invade modern day Ukraine to steal it's territory?


What do you think your 'tsars' would think about russia intentionally destroying the beautiful cities they founded long ago?

Only here is the fact that cities are destroyed only in the DPR and LPR, and in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, which are liberated by the Russian army, all the cities are intact.
Do you think that the Russians are deliberately destroying their own cities?)))

Although it is ridiculous to demand logic from you)))

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: NoMoreFools

Perhaps you missed where I said they invaded the invaders.

Here I will quote it.

Russia invaded the evil invader's lands that is true.

As for the Nazis, how many countries put up statues of WW2 Nazi SS Officers?

How about WW2 nazis on national stamps?

How many countries have nationalized Nazi Militias into their regular military or how about putting them in charge of special police operations like the SBU?

Have you not noticed the good looking emblem below being paraded all throughout Ukraine

I am sure MSM has you convinced they are good Nazis

I realize my position isn't popular but that is OK.

I don't mind being the odd one out.

You made the absurd that Ukraine invaded itself, and that there was no such thing as “sovereign”.

You are unable to admit that Russia has invaded a sovereign nation. I’m beyond trying to decide the reason for your refusal. Now I’m just laughing at you trying to tap dance around the question.

Your whole schtick is very USSR, comrade.

Whoops. Back to the NAZI trope. There are Nazis in Russia. Would you support an invasion and destruction of Russian cities due to that fact? Would you consider it crossing sovereign borders if the U.S. went in to Russia to “go after the Nazis”?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Maybe in the future? Muscovite, Buryat, Kalmuk, Chechen etc.

a reply to: RussianTroll

And? Prince Rurik didn't know his kingdom would eventually become Russia. Does that mean we should give all of Russia's lands back to the Scandinavian countries?

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: RussianTroll


I did no such thing, I copied the existing link already available in the Update thread.

Links to Russian TV, confirming your words, please.

Links, not excuses.

I have no ability to link to russian teevee from the device I use for ATS.

I REALLY wish I did, it's been a frustrating few weeks trying to find a way to do exactly that.

You'll know the minute I find a way to do so.

a reply to: NoMoreFools

Countries not invaded by Britain.

Page 12 of the same few people arguing over who's winning, who's losing, who is responsible for good and bad, who is lying and who is telling the truth about a conflict that isn't really affecting any of them.

No one has won the "debate" yet? That must be because you can never convince anyone of anything who is diametrically opposed to you. It's like atheists and christians arguing about God their entire lives. I guess its whatever makes you happy. I mean, obviously you enjoy the pointless back and forth for days, weeks, months on end.

No one will admit the other "side" is right about anything or that they are wrong. As long as you truly enjoy what you're getting out of your time spent? After the first couple of pages, I just zip to the end to get my own 2 cents in. Would Russiantroll ever say he's wrong about Russia, Ukraine? How about Patriot?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: RussianTroll


I did no such thing, I copied the existing link already available in the Update thread.

Links to Russian TV, confirming your words, please.

Links, not excuses.

I have no ability to link to russian teevee from the device I use for ATS.

I REALLY wish I did, it's been a frustrating few weeks trying to find a way to do exactly that.

You'll know the minute I find a way to do so.

In a month I will remind you of this promise))))

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: NoMoreFools

Countries not invaded by Britain.

I’m not British, and I don’t really care for whataboutism. It’s SO 1980’s USSR. I’d hope you guys could have come up with new forms of propaganda by now.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: RussianTroll


Did those tsars just invade modern day Ukraine to steal it's territory?


What do you think your 'tsars' would think about russia intentionally destroying the beautiful cities they founded long ago?

Only here is the fact that cities are destroyed only in the DPR and LPR, and in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, which are liberated by the Russian army, all the cities are intact.
Do you think that the Russians are deliberately destroying their own cities?)))

Although it is ridiculous to demand logic from you)))

Your government is lying to you again, there isn't a single surviving building in Marioupol or Popasna, and russia has/is tring to do exactly the same thing to many other Ukrainian cities.

a reply to: RussianTroll


Hopefully it won't take a month, I've reached out for assistance far and wide, just a tough nut to crack right now.