London Drugs Commission to look at legalising cannabis

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: XipeTotex

Having done both Maryjane and shrooms i can tell you fellow, one does not equate to the other.

Now if its temporary psychotic episodes and full blown panic attacks your after.

Large quantities of amphetamine and sleep deprivation for about a week or so will manifest those discombobulations in spades.

And the thing about your ""average street dose"" is those may vary with any and all drugs that are not regulated.

Psychotic episode or full blown panic attack can be caused by a single edible or potent weed smoked. Change my mind?

a reply to: XipeTotex

Do you partake where edibles or weed is concerned?

I'm not suggesting it can't happen or people can't have a bad experience with Cannabis, everybody has had the dreaded "whitey" at one point in their life after all.

But in all lightly hood the herb is far better for you than the likes of alcohol or tobacco, never mind the rest of the drugs on the market, and is not exactly comparable to shrooms.

You don't get hangovers, overdose is a near impossibility.

If only the same could be said about the rest of the drugs people consume.

a reply to: Albert999

Anyways, anyone who is a daily user of cannabis should look up research about how it can be detrimental to the prefrontal cortex for example, or cardiovascular effects, or disruptions of neurotransmitters.

CHS also is pretty nasty, not nice to spend your days vomiting.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: XipeTotex

Do you partake where edibles or weed is concerned?

I'm not suggesting it can't happen or people can't have a bad experience with Cannabis, everybody has had the dreaded "whitey" at one point in their life after all.

But in all lightly hood the herb is far better for you than the likes of alcohol or tobacco, never mind the rest of the drugs on the market, and is not exactly comparable to shrooms.

You don't get hangovers, overdose is a near impossibility.

If only the same could be said about the rest of the drugs people consume.

Not for a long time no, i made the decision to work out my problems on my own.

Here is a fun music video, damn, cant get it to work.

a reply to: XipeTotex

Sugar can be detrimental to your prefrontal cortex XipeTotex.

Never mind reek havoc on the cardiovascular system.

As to disruptions of neurotransmitters well thats kind of the idea see when a person smokes or consumes THC it overwhelms the endocannabinoid system and quickly attaches to cannabinoid receptors in our brain and body.

a reply to: XipeTotex

Everything in moderation XipeTotex.

And one person's problem can be another salvation, so there is that.

Like i suggest Weed is a lot less dangerous than a lot of drugs on the market including but not limited to sugar alcohol and tobacco products which are all perfectly legal.

a reply to: andy06shake

Well its not a good thing to disrupt your seronin levels constantly, killing your serotonin is the first step in to suicide. Also i want to add for those who are reading and who strongly disagree, i know, i have been in your shoes, 15 years ago i would have laughed my behind off because of the things i have said here, but eventually the joke wears down, and it aint funny anymore. eventually the lines will blur, who is in control? You or the substance. Who makes all those decisions in everyday life and why?

I'm not entirely sure why Sadiq had to go to LA to do this, the UK is the second biggest medicinal weed grower in the world. London has pretty much all the UK's legal, regulated medicinal places with the power to issue cannabis prescriptions and there's more coffeeshop's than Holland in London/across the UK that have operated with police knowledge/oversight for decades (THC4MS etc...)

Around 2017 It was either the then/now former England or Welsh chief constable who visited/inspected coffeeshops/cafes around the UK to see how the ethical/regulated side of things works and he agreed the ethical,self regulation with a focus on health/not causing problems for local people was far superior to outright legalisation or the county lines blackmarket.

originally posted by: XipeTotex

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: XipeTotex

Having done both Maryjane and shrooms i can tell you fellow, one does not equate to the other.

Now if its temporary psychotic episodes and full blown panic attacks your after.

Large quantities of amphetamine and sleep deprivation for about a week or so will manifest those discombobulations in spades.

And the thing about your ""average street dose"" is those may vary with any and all drugs that are not regulated.

Psychotic episode or full blown panic attack can be caused by a single edible or potent weed smoked. Change my mind?

Absolutely can to be but very rare and the psychosis cannabis can cause is mainly from indulging before the brain is developed, smoking 'sprayed' weed (a lot of the organised/comercial/albanian mafia cannabis in Europe and UK is spraayed with synthetic cannabanoids (i.e spice - to add weight and make it more addictive) or prolonged use of high thc street weed that's rushed.



or heavy prolonged

a reply to: XipeTotex

That may be the case but the fact of the matter remains there are far worse drugs on the market, that have far worse effects where both a person's mental and physical health are concerned.

Comparatively speaking the consumption of cannabis is a lot less damaging than sugar.

Maybe we should legalise weed and ban Mars bars?

Or better yet allow people to is decide what they choose to put into their own bodies with the hypocrisy in tow?

a reply to: bastion

Ok, now have you heard if anyone has had a full blown panic attack or a psychotic episode because they had taken one gram of cubensis? Must be extremely rare, if even possible.

This is why i made those comparisons.

It is not ok to compare weed to coffee,chocolate, or a bottle of beer, because those things with a single dose will not make you call an ambulance for yourself.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: XipeTotex

That may be the case but the fact of the matter remains there are far worse drugs on the market, that have far worse effects where both a person's mental and physical health are concerned.

Comparatively speaking the consumption of cannabis is a lot less damaging than sugar.

Maybe we should legalise weed and ban Mars bars?

Or better yet allow people to is decide what they choose to put into their own bodies with the hypocrisy in tow?

Well, at least we have progressed in this conversation to this level, from "legalise weed!" to "there are far worse drugs on the market" this is good, and this is true.

personally i am happy that it is illegal where i live, but it will most likely be legal pretty much everywhere in the near future because of its abilities to pacify and control large populations.

originally posted by: XipeTotex
a reply to: bastion

Ok, now have you heard if anyone has had a full blown panic attack or a psychotic episode because they had taken one gram of cubensis? Must be extremely rare, if even possible.

This is why i made those comparisons.

It is not ok to compare weed to coffee,chocolate, or a bottle of beer, because those things with a single dose will not make you call an ambulance for yourself.

Yes. I've had to rescue/fight/pin down a friend for a night who is a very seasoned psychonaut because they became convinced they'd just murdered someone and were desperately trying to hand theirself in at the police station.

It's a thing called 'set' and 'setting' - take any psychioactive, especially hallucinogens in the wrong setting and/or the wrong mindset and you're going to have a bad trip/panic attack/psychotic break - back when it was legal to sell wet ones in the UK, shops wouldn't sell them without info leaflets and it's the number one rule.

Also psilocin/psylocybin content (active compound in mushrooms) varies wildly per gram on strain/size mushroom/storage etc...)- 1g of 'aborts' would be equivalent of around 28g of the same strain that had made it to maturity.

There's no such thing as a risk free drug but risks can be minimised with information and regulation. It's better for the information and supply to come from someone's personal GP and not some random person on a street corner who's only interested in making money.

a reply to: XipeTotex

Well, at least we have progressed in this conversation to this level, from "legalise weed!" to "there are far worse drugs on the market" this is good, and this is true.

Legal would be better.

If for nothing more than the introduction of quality control, removal of the criminal element plus there is the tax for the government to consider which will run to billions.

Said tax could be used to fund actual drug rehabilitation programs for things like crack coc'aine, Fent'anyl and Her'oin abuse.

a reply to: andy06shake
You keep writing 'lightly' instead of 'likely'.

But in all lightly hood the herb is....

It's 'likelihood'.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Actually, cheers for that Itisnowagain, as you know I'm dyslexic and don't always pick up on my piss poor spelling mistakes.

I do know what time it is all the same so there is that.

a reply to: andy06shake
I don't think it's a spelling mistake.

I hear many people say 'I had something pacific to say'..... it's more if a mishearing.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

On my part, that would be more of a misreading i imagine, it's not just my spelling, but the way words appear together a lot of the time.

Anyhoo my bad.

Where do you stand on the legalisation of weed yourself, yes, no, maybe?

a reply to: andy06shake
You say it's misreading but what word do you read....lightly or likely?

When you speak the word in a sentence......what comes out, lightly or likely?

Do you say 'pacific' instead of 'specific'?

a reply to: andy06shake
On the subject of weed......if it's legalised it could be genetically modified.
Philip May is one of the top investors.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

That depends on whether i get the word in the sentence correct Itisnowagain.

Its recognising phonemes that can be the problem really.

I know a few poor sods a lot worse off than myself all the same.

Its more of an issue for me where reading and writing is concerned, i dont really have problems with speech if that helps you understand.

On the subject of weed......if it's legalised it could be genetically modified.
Philip May is one of the top investors.

To do what? My thinking being a lot of people use it for pain release which if genetically modified may not serve that purpose any longer.

Its already pretty much a wonder drug and material aka hemp, but hey if it can be modified to serve other purposes, that may be an idea as well, i would need to know more about that all the same.

Would you see it legalised through in its present condition in the same to the similar manner it is in other first world forward-thinking nations?