Statements from civilians in Popasnaya-Bakhmut-Luhhansk, Ukraine

a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Did American MSM push fake stories about weapons labs, Cherynobol nuke factories, Israeli nukes in Kherson, bio drones, captured 3 star generals, nazis with Star Trek tech, and Ukrainian human shields?

russia did, and their propagandists pushed those same stories here.



But I don't have any use for American msm either, they've made themselves completely irrelevant.

a reply to: alldaylong

How do we know that these people come from where they say they do ? We don't.

In another thread, a poster claimed it is very easy for regular people to use metadata to geolocate an area. In the last video, there are markers. The woman points to and names a street. If such a method of using metadata is as easy as they claimed that is one way to verify.

To be clear. This is not my claim. I am not familiar with how to geolocate with metadata.

For non native speakers how do we know what the subtitles read is what they are actually saying ? We don't.

The internet has many tools. Speech to text programs or you can find someone that speaks Russian to verify.

Anyone that is concerned with the veracity of these videos could if they wanted, do some internet sleuthing to either confirm or dispel their concerns.

With these Russian propoganda videos, there is never a balanced view, where people from both sides of the conflict can make their opinions known.

This statement I find a bit rediculous.

a reply to: Grimpachi


Are all the videos staged by russian press officers involved in russia's Ukrainian territorial conquest?

Why is it that only the russian press officer videos say what you want to hear and post?

We all know why that is.

For the same reason you create multiple new disposable russian propaganda threads every day after your previous day's russian propaganda videos on the same topic got debunked and ridiculed.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Are all the videos staged by russian press officers involved in russia's Ukrainian territorial conquest?

Why is it that only the russian press officer videos say what you want to hear and post?

We all know why that is.

Are all the Ukranian videos staged as well? You seem to not hold the Ukranians to the same level of scrutiny

its been proven that BOTH sides are pumping out BS

Flat out the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer here, Zelensky is just as corrupt as putin and the whole Ukrainian goverment is nothing but a state sponsored money laundering facility for the world, PERIOD

There BOTH pumping out BS to cover their arses

The dif is you just dont seem to care when its Ukraine, you accuse Grim of being a Russian Troll, hes been here for ages, youre new, in fact you just came around when this crap cracked off

if anyone here is a plant

ITS YOU

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Are all the videos staged by russian press officers involved in russia's Ukrainian territorial conquest?

Why is it that only the russian press officer videos say what you want to hear and post?

We all know why that is.

Are all the Ukranian videos staged as well? You seem to not hold the Ukranians to the same level of scrutiny

its been proven that BOTH sides are pumping out BS

Flat out the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer here, Zelensky is just as corrupt as putin and the whole Ukrainian goverment is nothing but a state sponsored money laundering facility for the world, PERIOD

There BOTH pumping out BS to cover their arses

The dif is you just dont seem to care when its Ukraine, you accuse Grim of being a Russian Troll, hes been here for ages, youre new, in fact you just came around when this crap cracked off

if anyone here is a plant

ITS YOU

Is anyone here posting Ukrainian propaganda videos every day?

Your claim is absurd.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Are all the videos staged by russian press officers involved in russia's Ukrainian territorial conquest?

Why is it that only the russian press officer videos say what you want to hear and post?

We all know why that is.

Are all the Ukranian videos staged as well? You seem to not hold the Ukranians to the same level of scrutiny

its been proven that BOTH sides are pumping out BS

Flat out the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer here, Zelensky is just as corrupt as putin and the whole Ukrainian goverment is nothing but a state sponsored money laundering facility for the world, PERIOD

There BOTH pumping out BS to cover their arses

The dif is you just dont seem to care when its Ukraine, you accuse Grim of being a Russian Troll, hes been here for ages, youre new, in fact you just came around when this crap cracked off

if anyone here is a plant

ITS YOU

Is anyone here posting Ukrainian propaganda videos every day?

Your claim is absurd.

LMAO no its not we see the Pro Ukrainian propaganda every day, you should know youre on EVERY THREAD

YOUR claim is absurd

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Are all the videos staged by russian press officers involved in russia's Ukrainian territorial conquest?

Why is it that only the russian press officer videos say what you want to hear and post?

We all know why that is.

Are all the Ukranian videos staged as well? You seem to not hold the Ukranians to the same level of scrutiny

its been proven that BOTH sides are pumping out BS

Flat out the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer here, Zelensky is just as corrupt as putin and the whole Ukrainian goverment is nothing but a state sponsored money laundering facility for the world, PERIOD

There BOTH pumping out BS to cover their arses

The dif is you just dont seem to care when its Ukraine, you accuse Grim of being a Russian Troll, hes been here for ages, youre new, in fact you just came around when this crap cracked off

if anyone here is a plant

ITS YOU

Is anyone here posting Ukrainian propaganda videos every day?

Your claim is absurd.

LMAO no its not we see the Pro Ukrainian propaganda every day, you should know youre on EVERY THREAD

YOUR claim is absurd

When have I EVER posted a propaganda video of any sort?

Comprehension issues or lying?




I dare you to search for a single propaganda video I've posted.

That should keep you busy for a while, since you won't find any example of your absurd claim.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Did American MSM push fake stories about weapons labs, Cherynobol nuke factories, Israeli nukes in Kherson, bio drones, captured 3 star generals, nazis with Star Trek tech, and Ukrainian human shields?

russia did, and their propagandists pushed those same stories here.



But I don't have any use for American msm either, they've made themselves completely irrelevant.

Where did Russia actually claim that this 3 star General was captured?

Did they give a press conference? Where did Russia claim this?

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Did American MSM push fake stories about weapons labs, Cherynobol nuke factories, Israeli nukes in Kherson, bio drones, captured 3 star generals, nazis with Star Trek tech, and Ukrainian human shields?

russia did, and their propagandists pushed those same stories here.



But I don't have any use for American msm either, they've made themselves completely irrelevant.

Where did Russia actually claim that this 3 star General was captured?

Did they give a press conference? Where did Russia claim this?

Top center of the main tass web site.

But the faker originally posted it on veteranstoday.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Are all the videos staged by russian press officers involved in russia's Ukrainian territorial conquest?

Why is it that only the russian press officer videos say what you want to hear and post?

We all know why that is.

Are all the Ukranian videos staged as well? You seem to not hold the Ukranians to the same level of scrutiny

its been proven that BOTH sides are pumping out BS

Flat out the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer here, Zelensky is just as corrupt as putin and the whole Ukrainian goverment is nothing but a state sponsored money laundering facility for the world, PERIOD

There BOTH pumping out BS to cover their arses

The dif is you just dont seem to care when its Ukraine, you accuse Grim of being a Russian Troll, hes been here for ages, youre new, in fact you just came around when this crap cracked off

if anyone here is a plant

ITS YOU

Is anyone here posting Ukrainian propaganda videos every day?

Your claim is absurd.

LMAO no its not we see the Pro Ukrainian propaganda every day, you should know youre on EVERY THREAD

YOUR claim is absurd

When have I EVER posted a propaganda video of any sort?

Comprehension issues or lying?




I dare you to search for a single propaganda video I've posted.

That should keep you busy for a while, since you won't find any example of your absurd claim.

I see nowhere in his statement that YOU posted any video . He's just saying there are Ukrainian Propaganda threads/videos and you should know because you are on every thread. He's not saying you posted them

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Did American MSM push fake stories about weapons labs, Cherynobol nuke factories, Israeli nukes in Kherson, bio drones, captured 3 star generals, nazis with Star Trek tech, and Ukrainian human shields?

russia did, and their propagandists pushed those same stories here.



But I don't have any use for American msm either, they've made themselves completely irrelevant.

Where did Russia actually claim that this 3 star General was captured?

Did they give a press conference? Where did Russia claim this?

Top center of the main tass web site.

But the faker originally posted it on veteranstoday.

Exactly.. its nothing that Russia claimed, so I dont know why you keep saying it is. In the last few days I've seen you make this claim many times that Russia "claimed this". It Russia claimed this post it up instead of pushing your FAKE NEWS over and over.

I wasn't gonna say anything but I've seen you make this claim too many times and 8ts simply not true

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Did American MSM push fake stories about weapons labs, Cherynobol nuke factories, Israeli nukes in Kherson, bio drones, captured 3 star generals, nazis with Star Trek tech, and Ukrainian human shields?

russia did, and their propagandists pushed those same stories here.



But I don't have any use for American msm either, they've made themselves completely irrelevant.

Where did Russia actually claim that this 3 star General was captured?

Did they give a press conference? Where did Russia claim this?

Top center of the main tass web site.

But the faker originally posted it on veteranstoday.

"Top center of the main task web site"

What does that even mean? Post the link if you are making such claims

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Did American MSM push fake stories about weapons labs, Cherynobol nuke factories, Israeli nukes in Kherson, bio drones, captured 3 star generals, nazis with Star Trek tech, and Ukrainian human shields?

russia did, and their propagandists pushed those same stories here.



But I don't have any use for American msm either, they've made themselves completely irrelevant.

Where did Russia actually claim that this 3 star General was captured?

Did they give a press conference? Where did Russia claim this?

Top center of the main tass web site.

But the faker originally posted it on veteranstoday.

Exactly.. its nothing that Russia claimed, so I dont know why you keep saying it is. In the last few days I've seen you make this claim many times that Russia "claimed this". It Russia claimed this post it up instead of pushing your FAKE NEWS over and over.

I wasn't gonna say anything but I've seen you make this claim too many times and 8ts simply not true

The russian government owns and operates tass.

It was promoted by the russian government there when they already KNEW it was false.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


Did American MSM push fake stories about weapons labs, Cherynobol nuke factories, Israeli nukes in Kherson, bio drones, captured 3 star generals, nazis with Star Trek tech, and Ukrainian human shields?

russia did, and their propagandists pushed those same stories here.



But I don't have any use for American msm either, they've made themselves completely irrelevant.

Where did Russia actually claim that this 3 star General was captured?

Did they give a press conference? Where did Russia claim this?

Top center of the main tass web site.

But the faker originally posted it on veteranstoday.

"Top center of the main task web site"

What does that even mean? Post the link if you are making such claims

tass has a banner there, this was where they promoted it in multiple languages, but it's since been deleted.

There was an ATS thread on this and there might be links there though.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Are all the videos staged by russian press officers involved in russia's Ukrainian territorial conquest?

Why is it that only the russian press officer videos say what you want to hear and post?

We all know why that is.

Are all the Ukranian videos staged as well? You seem to not hold the Ukranians to the same level of scrutiny

its been proven that BOTH sides are pumping out BS

Flat out the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer here, Zelensky is just as corrupt as putin and the whole Ukrainian goverment is nothing but a state sponsored money laundering facility for the world, PERIOD

There BOTH pumping out BS to cover their arses

The dif is you just dont seem to care when its Ukraine, you accuse Grim of being a Russian Troll, hes been here for ages, youre new, in fact you just came around when this crap cracked off

if anyone here is a plant

ITS YOU

Is anyone here posting Ukrainian propaganda videos every day?

Your claim is absurd.

LMAO no its not we see the Pro Ukrainian propaganda every day, you should know youre on EVERY THREAD

YOUR claim is absurd

When have I EVER posted a propaganda video of any sort?

Comprehension issues or lying?




I dare you to search for a single propaganda video I've posted.

That should keep you busy for a while, since you won't find any example of your absurd claim.

I see nowhere in his statement that YOU posted any video . He's just saying there are Ukrainian Propaganda threads/videos and you should know because you are on every thread. He's not saying you posted them

He was trying to debunk my original claim that I post no such videos, which I do not.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Was this one also created by russian press officers?

Did those russian press officers make the people they 'interviewed' available to anyone other than russian propagandists for once?

Have you retracted the now debunked lancaster videos you posted yet?



But sure, I 'believe' this one.

Nazilover4u more like. You brainwashed little parrot.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Grimpachi


Was this one also created by russian press officers?

Did those russian press officers make the people they 'interviewed' available to anyone other than russian propagandists for once?

Have you retracted the now debunked lancaster videos you posted yet?



But sure, I 'believe' this one.

Nazilover4u more like. You brainwashed little parrot.

In what way?

Do I see imaginary weapons labs?

Did I claim Israel built a secret nuke base in Kherson?

Did I claim Poland is about to invade Ukraine?

Did I invent a 3 star general captured in Marioupol?

Am I incorrect about russia invading Ukraine?

Are you aware of ANY threat that Ukraine posed to russia?



Perhaps your brainwashing sees 'brainwashed' everywhere?

next time maybe you should try to fabricate something to back up your false accusations.

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

How do the sanctions in Russia feel, must suck to be part of the new definition of a NAZI. Supporting the deaths of innocent civilians for your own greed.

a reply to: Grimpachi

"There is only one way to overcome such operatives. Do not engage. If they are not willing to discuss the subject simply write "Deny Ignorance" and move on. The same method is also effective against trolls."


At this point I really cannot take you seriously.

So, that's how you feel about anyone who dares to disagree with your views?

Simply breathtaking arrogance.

And, the irony.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No, that is how I feel about 1 maybe 2 people. People who "NEVER" watch the videos or address the content of the OP.

In fact, one has stated openly that he is here just to shut down conversation that isn't pro-Ukraine.

There are a fair amount of trolls as well but they will at least discuss the subject matter to a degree.