Pfizer: Huge risks for those who are vaccinated.

a reply to: incoserv

Same as the ones just a few towns over from the camps did not have a clue as to what was going on?

I call bull crap, they ether knew, or choose not to accept the facts or find out for themselves.

Might not have been the information age back then but people were not stupid just because they could not comprehend or process the evil does not mean they did not see it transpire before there very eyes.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Sander1976

11.2 billion doses administered worldwide, some of which were more than 1 year ago, and people are still calling it "experimental".

Luddites.

Do me a favor. Go here and tell everyone that it's safe and that they're lying:

community.covidvaccineinjuries.com...


Also, do this in real life in front of someone that has been effected. Maybe their younger jacked MMA trained son is near by. See what happens.

No, these people are really suffering health problems. Common health problems - problems that existed and occurred in the population before the vaccines were created.

And, I mean, someone suffering an adverse reaction from a vaccination probably wouldn't have it months after the jab. They'd have it while the vaccine was at the maximum level in their system, wouldn't they?

Also, because of the small number of components of mRNA vaccines, adverse reactions would be few, and of very specific types. Yet people on this site attribute quite a wide range of illnesses to the vaccines.

Also, people who die of a completely different pathogen, are unlikely to be from the vaccine (or from COVID-19). There were a few cases on that site, where that happened.

You see, medical science is very physical and rigorous. When people have a condition, it has definitive metabolic pathways that explain and describe why things are as they are.

Most of these people have had the jab months before they began to suffer from what were already common illnesses before there were vaccines, and there are illnesses easily attributable to other causes, that could not be from the vaccines.

But some of them, no doubt, also have had real adverse reactions to the vaccines, but the site attributes nearly everything to the vaccine, and has minimal actual medical details that identify if it was the vaccine, or some other cause.

Also, the linked site is not actually a forum of sufferers of disease, where one may post, it is an aggregation site that pulls in content from other sites, primarily from Facebook. It is an anonymously set up Wordpress site running off a DNS registrant called Epik.com.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Sander1976
So now go read all the attached docs and come back later

a reply to: andy06shake

I read them...fake news from janky sources.

Pfizer jabs and 2 Moderna boosters here...never felt better except turning magnetic has it's drawbacks.

But what about the baby squids coursing through your veins?,,

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Sander1976

11.2 billion doses administered worldwide, some of which were more than 1 year ago, and people are still calling it "experimental".

Luddites.

Considering it takes an average 10 years for a vaccine to reach approval status, from which only 2 out of every 100 pass the grade....... yes, you're still a human lab rat.

a reply to: andy06shake

It takes around 10 to 15 years after contracting HIV to become AIDS. Even if the vaccine was meant to cause AIDS, we wouldn't be witnessing that yet. Which makes sense, you don't want people developing auto immune disorders right away if this was the motive.

That being said, if that is the goal of this, you would want to start this process in 2020/2021 so that by 2030 the results could be seen.

originally posted by: litterbaux
a reply to: andy06shake

It takes around 10 to 15 years after contracting HIV to become AIDS. Even if the vaccine was meant to cause AIDS, we wouldn't be witnessing that yet. Which makes sense, you don't want people developing auto immune disorders right away if this was the motive.

That being said, if that is the goal of this, you would want to start this process in 2020/2021 so that by 2030 the results could be seen.

For what purpose?

a reply to: vonclod

How would I know? Just stating facts around AIDS and the timeline.

originally posted by: Village Idiot

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Sander1976

11.2 billion doses administered worldwide, some of which were more than 1 year ago, and people are still calling it "experimental".

Luddites.

Considering it takes an average 10 years for a vaccine to reach approval status, from which only 2 out of every 100 pass the grade....... yes, you're still a human lab rat.

How many people died in the first year of the pandemic? An epidemic doesn't actually grow linearly, but how many would die in 10 years of doing nothing at all, while we wait for someone to "rubber stamp" a process?

Surely, if you can speed up the processes without leaving anything out, you don't have to keep waiting as long, do you? So, how much is it possible that the processes can be done now, without leaving anything out?

When Gregor Mendel made his observations about inheritance and genetics, it took generations of each observed species. Now, we can make far better and specific genetic observations in minutes. It no longer takes lifetimes to do science.

In the light of that, should we wait around while people are dying, and withhold medicines that will save lives, just to be pedantic about what they used to do?

As a comparison, the vaccine for polio was developed by Jonas Salk in 1953, and was approved for use in the US in 1955. The same vaccine had eliminated polio from the US by 1994, so should they have waited around for 10 years?

How long it took to develop 12 other vaccines in history

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Village Idiot

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Sander1976

11.2 billion doses administered worldwide, some of which were more than 1 year ago, and people are still calling it "experimental".

Luddites.

Considering it takes an average 10 years for a vaccine to reach approval status, from which only 2 out of every 100 pass the grade....... yes, you're still a human lab rat.

How many people died in the first year of the pandemic?

Less than the second year of the pandemic when all these billions of doses of the vaccine were given out "protecting" people from death.


Also these overall numbers are hugely inflated by using the DIED WITH instead of DIED FROM counting methods. Obviously used to drive numbers and fear up. The died from is 6% of the big scary number.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Sander1976

11.2 billion doses administered worldwide, some of which were more than 1 year ago, and people are still calling it "experimental".

Luddites.

People are drawing attention to it being "experimental" because a year ago it was somewhat and it was one of the factors in their decision making process. While no one was technically forced into the vaccines there was massive, permanent division of society where those who wanted to hold off were basically exiled from society and bullied. That attitude hasn't stopped yet, so people are still having to defend their decisions.

Even today I was on a farming page and someone was asking for the steps needed to legally sell meat. When someone else mentioned that the red tape was killing small farms in favour of big agribusiness, a third voice jumped in with "I bet you're not even vaccinated". Turns out all involved were vaccinated against covid but it's those throwing in their smug two bits to shout down others that are the problem. In the end those who didn't get vaccinated, like myself, are expected to jump through hoops of explanation like in the example above because others make it their business. It's a medical choice, no one should have to defend this decision but they are being shunned.

a reply to: igloo

Our NAZI GAS CHAMBERS are still EXPERIMENTAL!

ALL of those people who used our GAS CHAMBERS did NOT die from our poison gas.

They died of SOME DEADLY DISEASE for which FACE MASKS MUST BE WORN AT ALL TIMES

PLEASE CONTINUE VISITING YOUR LOCAL NAZI GAS CHAMBER.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

There was NO PANDEMIC

There is NO PANDEMIC

The PANDEMIC IS A SATANIC BIG LIE INSURANCE FRAUD HOAX...

LIKE CLAIMING FOR THE LOSS OF TEN BILLION DOLLARS OF GOLD BULLION WHICH THEY NEVER HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THEY WERE PAID BILLIONS TO CURE A DISEASE WHICH THEY KNOW NEVER EXISTED!

a reply to: Village Idiot

VACCINES WERE HIGHLIGHTED AS A SATANIC BIG LIE HOAX SCAM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
ALL HONEST DOCTORS WERE AGAINST THEM.

HIV/AIDS IS A HOAX DOES NOT EXIST.
COVID IS A HOAX DOES NOT EXIST.

HIV IS HARMLESS
COVID IS THE HARMLESS COMMON COLD

HIV DOES NOT TURN INTO AIDS
COVID IS NOT DEADLY

HIV TEST DOES NOT WORK
COVID TEST DOES NOT WORK

HIV TEST GIVES FALSE POSITIVE RESULTS
COVID TEST GIVES FALSE POSITIVE RESULTS

EVEN IF HAVING A POSITIVE TEST RESULT WHY WORRY HIV IS HARMLESS
EVEN IF HAVING A POSITIVE COVID TEST RESULT WHY WORRY THE COMMON COLD IS HARMLESS.

HIV/AIDS/COVID ARE HARMLESS

IT IS THE SATANISTS POISON AZT AIDS DRUG THAT MURDERS PEOPLE
IT IS THE SATANISTS POISON COVID DEATH JAB THAT MURDERS PEOPLE

I was born aware, and spent my whole life telling people and them thinking me completely insane.

Thirty years ago, I completely saw through their HIV/AIDS hoax which was the satanic deep states swamps dry run for the COVID hoax.

The demons just couldn't resist weaving their tired HIV/AIDS scam fakery in to their current harmless common cold COVID scam fakery.

Everyone now thinking me totally unsalvageable and completely alienated.

All because I refuse to bow down to SATAN. I completely cut through Satans every fake lying word that comes out of his mouth and burn their belief in their beloved COVID SCAM fakery.

THE SATANIC CHINESE GOVERNMENT USED "DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS" TO "MURDER 20 MILLION INNOCENT CHINESE PEOPLE"

AND BLAMED THE 20M DEATHS ON "THE HARMLESS COMMON COLD" (DEADLY COVID DOES NOT EXIST!).

SATAN DREAMED UP THE "COVID HOAX" AS A "BIG EXCUSE" TO "MASS MURDER" 20M INNOCENT CHINESE CITIZENS AND MURDER ALL MANKIND BY "LETHAL POISON DEATH JAB INJECTION"!

Most ineffective vaccine ever mass administered
More reported adverse events and deaths than all other vaccines combined

SAFE AND EFFECTIVE

how many shots are you really willing to take?
some people are up to 4 in 12 months
so very effective you roll up your sleeve every 3 months

"Contrary to those who argue that there are no long-term effects of vaccination because side effects always occur immediately..."

While that may be true for more classic vaccines, the fact is that this is the first mRNA vaccine.

Here's a truth based on logic:
Those who have chosen to get vaccinated are guinea pigs in terms of long term side effects, regardless if long term side effects exist at all.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Village Idiot

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Sander1976

11.2 billion doses administered worldwide, some of which were more than 1 year ago, and people are still calling it "experimental".

Luddites.

Considering it takes an average 10 years for a vaccine to reach approval status, from which only 2 out of every 100 pass the grade....... yes, you're still a human lab rat.

How many people died in the first year of the pandemic?

Less than the second year of the pandemic when all these billions of doses of the vaccine were given out "protecting" people from death.

Epidemics and pandemics grow according to compounding of the increase of numbers. So, nothing unexpected happening there.

And yet, despite the thousandfold increase in infections, deaths overall decreased, and despite what you posted, the number of deaths have steadily reduced since the peak in January 2021, prior to the vaccines being released. Do you have a better explanation for that, other than the vaccines? Whatever your explanation, it must be something that hundreds of millions of people have done, to match its effects.

Also these overall numbers are hugely inflated by using the DIED WITH instead of DIED FROM counting methods. Obviously used to drive numbers and fear up. The died from is 6% of the big scary number.

That percentage that died only from COVID-19 only applies in America. Yet COVID-19 death figures from nearly every country in the world are about the same. Even for countries where there is no suggestion of questionable data.

Besides, the CDC changed reporting details for death certificates in 2020, specifically because people were claiming that it was unclear if COVID-19 was a primary cause of death. So the majority of deaths registered as having COVID-19, were actually deaths from COVID-19, not with.

Guidance for Certifying Deaths Due to Coronavirus Disease - CDC

originally posted by: igloo

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Sander1976

11.2 billion doses administered worldwide, some of which were more than 1 year ago, and people are still calling it "experimental".

Luddites.

People are drawing attention to it being "experimental" because a year ago it was somewhat and it was one of the factors in their decision making process. While no one was technically forced into the vaccines there was massive, permanent division of society where those who wanted to hold off were basically exiled from society and bullied. That attitude hasn't stopped yet, so people are still having to defend their decisions.

Even today I was on a farming page and someone was asking for the steps needed to legally sell meat. When someone else mentioned that the red tape was killing small farms in favour of big agribusiness, a third voice jumped in with "I bet you're not even vaccinated". Turns out all involved were vaccinated against covid but it's those throwing in their smug two bits to shout down others that are the problem. In the end those who didn't get vaccinated, like myself, are expected to jump through hoops of explanation like in the example above because others make it their business. It's a medical choice, no one should have to defend this decision but they are being shunned.

So, do you think that the description of 'experimental' applies to the vaccines? Or is the excuse getting a bit tenuous?

Imagine what would have happened with polio if enough people refused to vaccinate, instead of embracing it, as they did?