UKHSA's Own Data Shows Triple Vaccinated Die At 3x The Rate As Double Single And Unvaccinated

a reply to: underpass61

Because it is.

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Exactly. It's not rocket science although some posters wilfully twist simple maths and common sense.

You have to wonder, why?

Can you post a peer-reviewed, triple-blind, Big-Pharma-funded study that demonstrates co-morbidities is the only reason for the discrepancy?

Because that's the burden of proof the Big Pharma defenders demand of anyone who questions their religion. Just holding ya'll to your own standard.

If you cannot provide such, you are a science denier.

No. It's the OP's claim and don't pretend otherwise, it's not mine, it's up to them to prove it.

Sheer Muppet bs.

My boss is almost a poster child for this as much as I hate to say it.

She's younger than me, is up-to-date on her shots, and she just came down with her third round of COVID on Wednesday this past week.

She exposed all of us too because she was convinced it couldn't be COVID because she's already had it twice *and* had all her shots.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: underpass61

Because it is.

Wow.
Next you'll "agree to disagree" that 2+2=4

Done letting you waste my time

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Exactly. It's not rocket science although some posters wilfully twist simple maths and common sense.

You have to wonder, why?

Why? I'd say, because governments and medical system forced these ridiculous shots on people of all ages, not just the compromised. The big problem is enforcing them for younger people who have so little chance of taking covid badly. That wasn't fair, at the expense of the young to save a portion of the older with comorbidities.

People are pissed off, especially that the dangers discovered in the younger ones are being ignored by the media. If it had been left as purely choice, no work or travel coercion, then no one would even look into this. But people are furious at the way it was handled and they are not going to stop digging and exposing this until the top levels fall.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

My sides!

How hilarious.

Do you have common sense over there?

You just don't get ratios, percentages, group mathematics and probably just plain math.

That's OK

Go back half-drunk to your pub with your gap-toothed smile.

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

My sides!

How hilarious.

Do you have common sense over there?

You just don't get ratios, percentages, group mathematics and probably just plain math.

That's OK

Go back half-drunk to your pub with your gap-toothed smile.

A lot of people don't seem to get it.

3x the number of triple vaccinated people die. That's a fact. There's no "but what had happened wuz..."

And there's no studies or evidence to prove the next step of the argument. Most of these "vulnerable" people should have been wiped out already from before there was ever a vaccine. And if the vaccinated who are vulnerable are dying at 3x the rate, that's one s# vaccine that provides no benefit.

The CEO of AstraZeneca said these vulnerable people need to AVOID the vaccine. They knew this back in 2020.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

The people who get vaxxed 3 times are the people who are most vulnerable.

Take a look at the curve, seniors with multiple comorbidity.

The single and double vaxxed are more likely to be young and fit.

The UK government website does not reflect this for 3 jabs. Only for 4 jabs.

In fact in UK 82 % of adults are now triple jabbed, that's not focused on over 60s.

Just Google UK vaccination rates by age.

Exact numbers can be downloaded on Excel file here:
www.england.nhs.uk...

The only major differences are the 50 to 54 have had more, all the rest are about the same.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

My sides!

How hilarious.

Do you have common sense over there?

You just don't get ratios, percentages, group mathematics and probably just plain math.

That's OK

Go back half-drunk to your pub with your gap-toothed smile.

A lot of people don't seem to get it.

3x the number of triple vaccinated people die. That's a fact. There's no "but what had happened wuz..."

And there's no studies or evidence to prove the next step of the argument. Most of these "vulnerable" people should have been wiped out already from before there was ever a vaccine. And if the vaccinated who are vulnerable are dying at 3x the rate, that's one s# vaccine that provides no benefit.

The CEO of AstraZeneca said these vulnerable people need to AVOID the vaccine. They knew this back in 2020.

The average age for a triple vaxxed person who dies in the uk is around 86, and they have two or more comorbidity.

So what we're actually seeing is that people who are old and sick are more vulnerable to covid.

The key thing to take notice of is the percentage of people who get seriously sick, it's way down.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

So what we're actually seeing is that people who are old and sick are more vulnerable to covid.

I guess it's better to be late to the party than never get there. /roll eyes

Most of us were noticing this about COVID way back before the vaccine. So it still hasn't actually been established that the vaccine has much to do with anything.

The key thing to take notice of is the percentage of people who get seriously sick, it's way down.

This also has less to do with vaccines and more to do with the fact that viruses tend to mutate to be less dangerous over time. If they kill too effectively, they die. Simple as that, so the ones that are most successful are less deadly and more contagious. They don't kill the host who walks around spreading them to everyone else. It's basic survival.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AaarghZombies

So what we're actually seeing is that people who are old and sick are more vulnerable to covid.

I guess it's better to be late to the party than never get there. /roll eyes

Most of us were noticing this about COVID way back before the vaccine. So it still hasn't actually been established that the vaccine has much to do with anything.

The key thing to take notice of is the percentage of people who get seriously sick, it's way down.

This also has less to do with vaccines and more to do with the fact that viruses tend to mutate to be less dangerous over time. If they kill too effectively, they die. Simple as that, so the ones that are most successful are less deadly and more contagious. They don't kill the host who walks around spreading them to everyone else. It's basic survival.

Ebola discredits that theory.

a reply to: quintessentone

No it doesn't.

Ebola is a different kind of disease. It's more like the Black Death in that it relies partially on an animal vector to maintain itself. It is a less serious factor in that animal population. It becomes deadly in humans when it makes the jump.

So what we see is outbreaks in humans when they come into contact with the animal reservoir. The outbreak in humans is fast and vicious and dies out, and we don't see any more Ebola until the people and animals cross paths again causing another outbreak. The virus itself is relatively stable in its reservoir because it is a huge virus and because it doesn't need to change much in order to exist in an equilibrium with its preferred hosts.

a reply to: quintessentone

kets wrote that viruses tend to become less dangerous, not that all viruses follow that route. Did you read that comment carefully enough?

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: quintessentone"

kets wrote that viruses tend to become less dangerous, not that all viruses follow that route. Did you read that comment carefully enough?

I did and Ebola is characterized as a virus, where is it mentioned that not all viruses follow that route?

Case in point below - it speaks more widely that none of us can predict what this virus will or will not become.

"According to Vapalahti, it is misleading to describe Omicron as a less severe variant. The virus may cause milder symptoms in a population whose immunity level is higher due to vaccinations or prior infections. The number of Covid-19 patients requiring hospital treatment in Finland has gradually risen to record levels as the immunological protection provided by two or three vaccine doses wears off."

www.timesnownews.com...

a reply to: ketsuko

None of which detracts from the fact that the people who are most likely to be triple vaxxed are also the people who are most likely to die if they get sick.

If you look at the curve it's mostly the elderly and sick who are dying, which is exactly what you'd expect.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: ketsuko

None of which detracts from the fact that the people who are most likely to be triple vaxxed are also the people who are most likely to die if they get sick.

If you look at the curve it's mostly the elderly and sick who are dying, which is exactly what you'd expect.

The initial push for the vax was, "If you are elderly or have multiple comorbidities, the vax will protect you."

So you agree they were lying?

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: ketsuko

None of which detracts from the fact that the people who are most likely to be triple vaxxed are also the people who are most likely to die if they get sick.

If you look at the curve it's mostly the elderly and sick who are dying, which is exactly what you'd expect.

The initial push for the vax was, "If you are elderly or have multiple comorbidities, the vax will protect you."

So you agree they were lying?

If you'd watched the official press briefings you'd know that they gave out percentages of how much protection the vax gives you. None of which were 100 percent.

Compare this to the number of people who get Covid and the number who die, and then compare it to the same figures form 2020 and early 2021, and you'll see that they were pretty accurate.

The only people who claim that the vax is 100 percent effective are idiots, and people like the OP who seem to think that vax are either 100 percent effective or 0 percent effective.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: M5xaz

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

My sides!

How hilarious.

Do you have common sense over there?

You just don't get ratios, percentages, group mathematics and probably just plain math.

That's OK

Go back half-drunk to your pub with your gap-toothed smile.

A lot of people don't seem to get it.

3x the number of triple vaccinated people die. That's a fact. There's no "but what had happened wuz..."

And there's no studies or evidence to prove the next step of the argument. Most of these "vulnerable" people should have been wiped out already from before there was ever a vaccine. And if the vaccinated who are vulnerable are dying at 3x the rate, that's one s# vaccine that provides no benefit.

The CEO of AstraZeneca said these vulnerable people need to AVOID the vaccine. They knew this back in 2020.

The average age for a triple vaxxed person who dies in the uk is around 86, and they have two or more comorbidity.

So what we're actually seeing is that people who are old and sick are more vulnerable to covid.

The key thing to take notice of is the percentage of people who get seriously sick, it's way down.

Do you have any idea of the Mount Everest sized irony you just posted here? You obviously do. Nobody is that stupid. So my question is why? Paid or just trolling?

We were all told the vax would protect them, so no. We shouldn't expect it. But since we were all lied to, all the double vaxxed and boosted can enjoy the VAIDS until dead.
⁴a reply to: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: 20Eyes74
We were all told the vax would protect them, so no. We shouldn't expect it. But since we were all lied to, all the double vaxxed and boosted can enjoy the VAIDS until dead.
⁴a reply to: AaarghZombies

The scientists and we are learning as we and the virus head into an ever-changing nightmare.