Intercepted audio reveals disturbing talk between Russian soldiers

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Professional investigators from 57 countries vs lancaster's russian staged videos?

Professional investigators that are where exactly. Who are they? Are they free to investigate or are they being led around?


You are free to stick with whatever. I am free to laugh at the clown claiming the war zone Lancaster reports from staged.

They are in Bucha, investigating and collecting evidence.

Can you name any 'media' site that uses lancaster stuff besides beforeitsnews, rt and tass?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Oh goody, they are collecting evidence. After the people were buried.
OK, yeah that will be really telling.

As for Lancaster, he isn't part of MSM. A clown would find that uncomfortable an NPC would find it intolerable.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

As for Lancaster, he isn't part of MSM.

Of course he isn't, nobody has ever claimed that he was anything other than a russian stooge, though lancaster calls himself a 'western journalist' on tass and beforeitsnews.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u


Do I need to explain for a third time what guilt by association logical fallacy is for you?


It must have been hard on your teachers.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: vNex92

Because it's supported by all the other sources, and actual Ukraine citizens.

actual Ukraine citizens

Like that one guy reporting for the Syrian opposition?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u


Do I need to explain for a third time what guilt by association logical fallacy is for you?


It must have been hard on your teachers.

Perhaps someone should explain it to lancaster.

Or explain to you that it's only a fallacy when the person also has 'good' associations, lancaster has none.

Just beforeitsnews, rt and tass.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Really, no. It is a fallacy to judge by association instead of content,

What makes MSM and Government info good associations? Are you saying they don't lie and mislead?

Please make that claim I always like funny stuff.

a reply to: Grimpachi


I judged lancaster by content, reputation, and associations.


Look!

He's on the main page today:

beforeitsnews

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

a reply to: Spacespider

Wives of Russian invaders call on their husbands to rape Ukrainian women

Lmao, this is a contender for the dumbest thing I've ever read. I think any women could see why this is bogus...

The Principles of War Propaganda
Anne Morelli

1. we do not want war. (Nous ne voulons pas la guerre.)

2. the opposing camp alone is responsible for the war (Le camp adverse est le seul responsable de la guerre.)

3. the leader of the opposing camp has the appearance of a monster, he is the bogeyman or "bad guy on duty". (Le chef du camp adverse a le visage du diable ou "l'affreux de service".)

(4) We are defending a good cause, not self-interest. (C'est une cause noble que nous défendons et non des intérêts particuliers.)

5. The enemy knowingly commits atrocities; when we make a mistake, it is unintentionally. (L'ennemi provoque sciemment des atrocités, et si nous commettons des bavures c'est involontairement.)

(6) The enemy uses illicit weapons. (L'ennemi utilise des armes non autorisées.)

7. We suffer only minor losses; the enemy's losses are huge. (Nous subissons très peu de pertes, les pertes de l'ennemi sont énormes.)

(8) The artists and intellectuals support our cause. (Les artistes et intellectuels soutiennent notre cause.)

9. there is something sacred about our cause. (Notre cause a un caractère sacré.)

10. those who question our propaganda are traitors. (Ceux et celles qui mettent en doute notre propagande sont des traîtres.)

You know.... I wish people could step back and look at the entire picture and all the events over the past 3 years and could put the story together for their selves... I know i personally don't believe anything that comes from msm anymore.

From the way i understand the story it seems that if putin fails.... then we're all f'ed... And this is coming from a american...

originally posted by: justsomerandomdude
You know.... I wish people could step back and look at the entire picture and all the events over the past 3 years and could put the story together for their selves... I know i personally don't believe anything that comes from msm anymore.

From the way i understand the story it seems that if putin fails.... then we're all f'ed... And this is coming from a american...

about how i understand it too

good post

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Spacespider

You posted the second video from the security service of Ukraine.
Why should we trust them?

Exactly. That video specifically I am more inclined to believe it’s propaganda.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: vNex92

Because it's supported by all the other government approved sources, and some actual Ukraine citizens.

I fixed it for you.

All we have from Ukraine are those sources that Zelensky allows and approves:

Zelensky nationalizes TV news and restricts opposition parties

We aren't allowed to hear anyone else.

a reply to: Spacespider

Does this mean war is bad and people behave bad or is it just Russians who do this in times of war?

a reply to: Spacespider

Hi, just a question, and I've been involved in some conflicts firsthand and seen what US soldiers do.

Do you honestly think rape and war not go hand in hand?

If it's either kill or be killed by a group of people, then what surprise is raping them.

Not saying it's good, it's just how its been for thousands of years.... That's war.

Guys CNN (Corrupt News Network) said it so it's true. Geez don't you know

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
russia wasn't killing civilians and destroying a non threatening country.

You tend to use this phrase a lot. Repeat, over and over. Maybe it will stick if repeated all the time.

Don't know, pretty funny.

a reply to: ApCadmus

If I had found out that anyone in my platoon had raped a girl/woman I would have fragged him at the earliest opportunity.

Did we go to whore houses? Yeah, but we didn't rape.