Bucha satellite images released

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Fair enough, but in that 1st week after the 19th it was very sunny and pleasant weather. And the image is taken the 19th, presumably the bodies were there even longer. And if the decomposition was delayed, at the very least their skin wouldn't be pinkish

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Geezmelleez


It's pretty cold there right now so your assumptions may be way off.

It's been in the 50s and 60s with no freezing lows for a couple of weeks.
Bucha Weather

Can confirm 50s and 60s push decomposition pretty fast, so yeah... any carcass that's been laying in Bucha since mid March would be ballooned and a lot nastier looking than the photos shown so far appear to be.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: Geezmelleez


It's pretty cold there right now so your assumptions may be way off.

It's been in the 50s and 60s with no freezing lows for a couple of weeks.
Bucha Weather

Can confirm 50s and 60s push decomposition pretty fast, so yeah... any carcass that's been laying in Bucha since mid March would be ballooned and a lot nastier looking than the photos shown so far appear to be.

I'm not an expert on such things, but it looks like the lows are still in the 30s right now with highs in 50s.

How cold is the ground and how long are the highs?

I don't really want to know, but I don't think we should be making those assumptions just yet.

We need more evidence.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
We need more evidence.

I don't disagree, but that's been my position since this "invasion" began and, frankly, I trust the approved western sources of information about as far as I can collectively throw them.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
We need more evidence.

I don't disagree, but that's been my position since this "invasion" began and, frankly, I trust the approved western sources of information about as far as I can collectively throw them.

I don't even pay attention to western sources, only the very good 3rd party sources we've been using in the update thread.

I usually don't even know what msm is saying until someone complains about it here.

Knowing you a little from long ago, I'd recommend ISW as a source you might appreciate. Top notch folks with pristine independent reputation, and a somewhat intellectual yet still common sense style. No hyperbole at all there.

They do a detailed daily analysis, and have every day of that analysis still available. They haven't ever been incorrect about anything significant in hind sight.

We tend to post a few highlights every day in the update thread, but there's a lot more available at ISW.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

Both Gulf Wars were sold to the American people based off of manipulated satellite images... I'm going to be honest here, I don't now what to believe where Russia in the Ukraine is concerned BUT I know that the western governments have chosen to lie to We the People for years now about all manner of topics, always directed at protecting their desired narratives. Those choices have consequences and one of those consequences is that I wouldn't believe the United States government if they told me water was wet. They're lying scumbags and the western mainstream media are their lapdogs. Any convenient piece of "evidence" brought forward by any western government (or, really, any government anywhere as governments are liars and manipulators by their very nature) they can feel free to roll into tight cylinders and take turns shoving up their coalition leaders' asses for all I care.

Ukraine isn't our circus, and they aren't our monkeys, whatever happens there.

Saddam invaded Kuwait and was causing mass killings is why he was taken out.

China and India have both demanded investigations. While they didn’t come right out and condemn Russia, China didn’t do its usual its West propaganda spin.

On a side not I wish some other companies and countries would release some images. It’s asinine to think that company is the only one with images. Which helps with the conspiracy aspect of this. On the flip side maybe no one like China has released anything because it collaborates the US images. Also surprised Russia hasn’t released anything, shoped or not, they definitely would’ve had a birds eye view of the area.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Little about the company. en.m.wikipedia.org...

Is Maxar Technologies bought and paid for? I don’t know.

The thing that gets me is the bodies being in the same positions as in the videos. Are we going to say that they can’t edit out a guy scratching his nose playing dead but can add bodies in same exact positions on satellite imagery?

CEO: www.linkedin.com... US Navy, US Securities and Exchange Commission... yeah, definitely nothing to see there.

Maxar is a parent company of DigitalGlobe: en.wikipedia.org... - some of the customers include US federal agencies, like NASA and NGA. Google Earth and Google Maps? That's also mostly DigitalGlobe.

You can bet your ass Maxar is as deeply connected with the western governments as it gets.

I'm don't really like the daily mail, not much more than a super market tabloid, that and they always put T&A on the right side bar and the Horn Cat in me can't help but go look. Any way looks as if the booshwa russian army is off the hook as far as burying the dead in the Church Cemetery.

The Tabloids do get it right every now and then. Dated Mar 17th 2022

Men in suburb of Bucha near Kyiv are seen moving bodies in to a mass grave
Bodies are bagged and buried next to the Church of St. Andrew Pervozvannoho
No identifiers were left for the dead and no memorial laid, the video's sharer said
The suburb has been the scene of intense fighting known as the 'Battle of Bucha'
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

Harrowing video shows corpses being dumped in mass graves in Ukrainian town where dozens have been killed by Russian troops

Now I know some will say the russians are making them do it, I just don't think the russian are that smart. I mean If they were they wouldn't be getting their 2nd ranked asses kicked by the 22nd ranked military.

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Snarl
The Ruble is now tied to a new Gold Standard.

No, it isn't.

Yes, it is.

Since RT.com is now blocked and censored in many Western locations such as the EU, UK, US and Canada, and since many readers may not be able to access the RT.com website (unless using a VPN), my Questions and Answers that are in the new RT.com article are now published here in their entirety.

From your source. This is an RT article. It also encourages people to use a VPN to head over to RT. Kind of dead in the water. Zerohedge or not.

The article is also written by a gold selling site employee based out of Singapore. Which the article links to. “BullionStar”.

Classic information suppression techniques we've been observing for a while now. Other media is picking up on it. Saw another ATS thread pop-up on it yesterday.

Just like I told the boards Russia wasn't gonna play nice if Nord Stream 2 got messed with ... and who wound up being right? I said people were gonna die and just look at the consequences. BRICS has been buying up all the bullion they can. Half of Putin's bullion got iced (for whatever that actually means).

The dollar collapse is (and has been) just around the corner. Question is: how are TPTB planning to resolve $30T worth of debt? I know I know, but do you?

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Snarl
The Ruble is now tied to a new Gold Standard.

No, it isn't.

Yes, it is.

Since RT.com is now blocked and censored in many Western locations such as the EU, UK, US and Canada, and since many readers may not be able to access the RT.com website (unless using a VPN), my Questions and Answers that are in the new RT.com article are now published here in their entirety.

From your source. This is an RT article. It also encourages people to use a VPN to head over to RT. Kind of dead in the water. Zerohedge or not.

The article is also written by a gold selling site employee based out of Singapore. Which the article links to. “BullionStar”.

Classic information suppression techniques we've been observing for a while now. Other media is picking up on it. Saw another ATS thread pop-up on it yesterday.

Just like I told the boards Russia wasn't gonna play nice if Nord Stream 2 got messed with ... and who wound up being right? I said people were gonna die and just look at the consequences. BRICS has been buying up all the bullion they can. Half of Putin's bullion got iced (for whatever that actually means).

The dollar collapse is (and has been) just around the corner. Question is: how are TPTB planning to resolve $30T worth of debt? I know I know, but do you?

I’m not a duck. War makes money. Lots of it.

Reconstruction
Logistics
Medical Supply
Private Security
Weapon Supply

Not to mention the usual technological advances.
Weapons
Medicine
Tech in general

War makes a lot of money and a lot of advances. While I’m against it 100%, I know why there is a such thing as war hawks.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
Satellite imagery shows they been there for weeks.

So ... who do we believe? The satellites showing the bodies had been there for weeks? Or, the 'eyewitness' translation that the Russians shot them (unprovoked mind you) as they were leaving? I've got a screenshot of it, but can't get uploads to work right now. Anyone can follow the link and see it @ 00:18 in the video.

Which is it? 'Cause one of 'em is a fuggin' liar.

Because heaven forbid, it defies all logic that it could be BOTH, right?

If you think Bucha was bad, wait until the details stories of what happened in Mariupol come out.

Russia accused of using 'mobile crematoria' in besieged Mariupol

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
Satellite imagery shows they been there for weeks.

So ... who do we believe? The satellites showing the bodies had been there for weeks? Or, the 'eyewitness' translation that the Russians shot them (unprovoked mind you) as they were leaving? I've got a screenshot of it, but can't get uploads to work right now. Anyone can follow the link and see it @ 00:18 in the video.

Which is it? 'Cause one of 'em is a fuggin' liar.

That's a great point, actually... a really great point. The west is wildly swinging here just hoping to make contact.

Not such a great point. See above.

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
Satellite imagery shows they been there for weeks.

So ... who do we believe? The satellites showing the bodies had been there for weeks? Or, the 'eyewitness' translation that the Russians shot them (unprovoked mind you) as they were leaving? I've got a screenshot of it, but can't get uploads to work right now. Anyone can follow the link and see it @ 00:18 in the video.

Which is it? 'Cause one of 'em is a fuggin' liar.

Because heaven forbid, it defies all logic that it could be BOTH, right?

The Russians didn't shoot anyone down in the streets as claimed. Absolutely zero evidence of it.

In this day and age of cell phone cameras ... surely there would be at least one clip to provide what so many desperately want to believe.

But ... nope. The only ones you see are Ukrainians doing the dirty deeds. Sad ... ain't it?

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
Satellite imagery shows they been there for weeks.

So ... who do we believe? The satellites showing the bodies had been there for weeks? Or, the 'eyewitness' translation that the Russians shot them (unprovoked mind you) as they were leaving? I've got a screenshot of it, but can't get uploads to work right now. Anyone can follow the link and see it @ 00:18 in the video.

Which is it? 'Cause one of 'em is a fuggin' liar.

Because heaven forbid, it defies all logic that it could be BOTH, right?

The Russians didn't shoot anyone down in the streets as claimed. Absolutely zero evidence of it.

In this day and age of cell phone cameras ... surely there would be at least one clip to provide what so many desperately want to believe.

But ... nope. The only ones you see are Ukrainians doing the dirty deeds. Sad ... ain't it?

Zero evidence if you don't consider the bodies they didn't have time to burn or bury in a mass grave or toss in a sewer.

Zero evidence if you don't consider story after story of eyewitnesses.

Oh, sorry, I forgot again...because Zelenskyy was an actor he knows how to stage this stuff and has unlimited budgets for fictional film making.

No need to respond. We know which side your on. And if you don't believe sides matter here, you just might be beyond redemption.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
If you think Bucha was bad, wait until the details stories of what happened in Mariupol come out.

Russia accused of using 'mobile crematoria' in besieged Mariupol

Actually Russian doctrine to deploy one with each of army. I believe they deployed 3 officially. So that’s at least 3 mobile crematoriums rolling in Ukraine

originally posted by: GravitySucks
And if you don't believe sides matter here, you just might be beyond redemption.

The stance of the Russian American Bund fails to surprise me.

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: GravitySucks

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
Satellite imagery shows they been there for weeks.

So ... who do we believe? The satellites showing the bodies had been there for weeks? Or, the 'eyewitness' translation that the Russians shot them (unprovoked mind you) as they were leaving? I've got a screenshot of it, but can't get uploads to work right now. Anyone can follow the link and see it @ 00:18 in the video.

Which is it? 'Cause one of 'em is a fuggin' liar.

Because heaven forbid, it defies all logic that it could be BOTH, right?

The Russians didn't shoot anyone down in the streets as claimed. Absolutely zero evidence of it.

In this day and age of cell phone cameras ... surely there would be at least one clip to provide what so many desperately want to believe.

But ... nope. The only ones you see are Ukrainians doing the dirty deeds. Sad ... ain't it?

Zero evidence if you don't consider the bodies they didn't have time to burn or bury in a mass grave or toss in a sewer.

Zero evidence if you don't consider story after story of eyewitnesses.

Oh, sorry, I forgot again...because Zelenskyy was an actor he knows how to stage this stuff and has unlimited budgets for fictional film making.

No need to respond. We know which side your on. And if you don't believe sides matter here, you just might be beyond redemption.

I'm NOT on a side. I'm only hoping to NOT see Americans get involved with this stink anymore than they already have (thank you very much Vicky Nuland and your leash-keepers).

The whole fiasco has been entirely predictable. Except ... people wanting to blame me for anything at all associated with it. I'm just typing on a keyboard here.