Bucha satellite images released

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Pretty weak propaganda effort.

No offense but i had been following this part of area since 2014.
If anyone wanted Crimea badly and is urging to get it back that would be NATO.

Accusations by enemies.
Accusations by those who are in the proxy war agaisnt Russia.
They admitted what is happening in Ukraine is a proxy war.

Unless there is actual video evidence (and even then it can be in doubt) of these killings we will never know the true story. Remember too Ukraine was handing out Ak47s too whoever wanted one as well, especially in the Kyiv area. So whose to say there weren't civilians running around with AKs? We will NEVER KNOW. There's gonna be hundreds if not thousands of civilians that die that were running around the streets shooting AK47s and other guns.

If a civilian gets shot on the street while he's running around with an AK47 nobody will ever know if this guy was innocent or if he was a fighter. It's not like a civilian that dies with a gun the gun is gonna stay lying there beside him for days or weeks. I bet a dead civilian with a gun, the gun would be picked up by somebody else within minutes or hours at the longest.

We will never know the truth and when a country arms the general public it puts everyone at risk. If the dead are males of adult age you gotta awesome they were fighters.

Dead people with white arm bands can only be assumed killed by Ukraine since we saw the video of the Ukrainian soldier asking his Sgt if it's OK to shoot anybody with a white arm band. His Sgt said "sure"

a reply to: vNex92


Bucha is nowhere near Marioupol, they are two completely different stories/events.

russia has not retreated from Mariupol, they have retreated from Bucha and Hostemel, where the other story is from.

a reply to: vNex92


Did NATO invade Ukraine to 'get Crimea back'?

Russia did.

a reply to: carewemust

Odd to see you in lock step with the desired Biden admin narrative, like extremely odd... hmm.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel


I bet (hope) lots of civilians took smart phone video, we just don't have access to any of it yet.

We do however have an overwhelming amount of evidence of russia using vacuum and cluster bombs on civilians, and of russians attacking civilian targets all over the country with a variety of weapons, covering nearly every day of the current invasion.

a reply to: burdman30ott6


Confuses me too, but everyone gets to be wrong now and then

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: carewemust

Odd to see you in lock step with the desired Biden admin narrative, like extremely odd... hmm.

Shes not alone.

The cool new thing now is that we trust the MSM verbatim.

Get with it old man.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
Unless there is actual video evidence (and even then it can be in doubt) of these killings we will never know the true story. Remember too Ukraine was handing out Ak47s too whoever wanted one as well, especially in the Kyiv area. So whose to say there weren't civilians running around with AKs? We will NEVER KNOW. There's gonna be hundreds if not thousands of civilians that die that were running around the streets shooting AK47s and other guns.

If a civilian gets shot on the street while he's running around with an AK47 nobody will ever know if this guy was innocent or if he was a fighter. It's not like a civilian that dies with a gun the gun is gonna stay lying there beside him for days or weeks. I bet a dead civilian with a gun, the gun would be picked up by somebody else within minutes or hours at the longest.

We will never know the truth and when a country arms the general public it puts everyone at risk. If the dead are males of adult age you gotta awesome they were fighters.

Dead people with white arm bands can only be assumed killed by Ukraine since we saw the video of the Ukrainian soldier asking his Sgt if it's OK to shoot anybody with a white arm band. His Sgt said "sure"

Arm band thing needs to stop. It’s a colored piece of fabric. Plenty access all around.

As for speaking Ukrainian I see you interject so much. Are we aware…

There are Born and raised Ukrainians supporting and fighting for Russia.
Ukrainian speaking Russians.
Born and raised Russians supporting and backing Ukraine.
Russian speaking Ukrainians.

It can go which way and anyway.

You are comparing Slavs to Slavs and your big piece of distinguishing evidence is…..a very accessible armband.

a reply to: JinMI


msm is still irrelevant, it's just weird that there is some overlap right now.

I don't really consume any msm that isn't first posted here for ridicule.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Nothing at all weird about it.

That is outside what is normal for MSM


To put in other words, they havent changed.....

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

Both Gulf Wars were sold to the American people based off of manipulated satellite images... I'm going to be honest here, I don't now what to believe where Russia in the Ukraine is concerned BUT I know that the western governments have chosen to lie to We the People for years now about all manner of topics, always directed at protecting their desired narratives. Those choices have consequences and one of those consequences is that I wouldn't believe the United States government if they told me water was wet. They're lying scumbags and the western mainstream media are their lapdogs. Any convenient piece of "evidence" brought forward by any western government (or, really, any government anywhere as governments are liars and manipulators by their very nature) they can feel free to roll into tight cylinders and take turns shoving up their coalition leaders' asses for all I care.

Ukraine isn't our circus, and they aren't our monkeys, whatever happens there.

The satellite images come from the Maxar company, not any government. You’ll have to come up with a better denial strategy.

Don't be so easily manipulated.

MAXAR - ABOUT US
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They do what? You mean, governments PAY THEM FOR THEIR INTEL? Wooops. Guess we can't trust them now....

This handout satellite image released by Maxar Technologies on April 3, 2022 shows a of a probable grave site (upper C) near the Church of Saint Andrew and Pyervozvannoho All Saints in Bucha, Ukraine, on March 31, 2022.

PROBABLE.
Yet, not definite.

I remember when they said xx amount had died from the china virus...then we found out....nope, that wasnt true. Then they said we would have a winter of death.....nope, that wasnt true.

I mean, why would anyone believe this stuff? Where are pictures of the bodies and graves up close? BECAUSE THERE ARE PICTURES OF EVERY OTHER DAMN THING they love showing off.

Nah.

Even if true....who is to say Zelensky did not order the n@zis to commit atrocities and set up Russia for it?

Question everything - especially if it is coming from the government.

HAS NOBODY LEARNED THIS?

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originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: MisguidedAngel


I bet (hope) lots of civilians took smart phone video, we just don't have access to any of it yet.

If there was civilian smart phone videos of un just killings from a week ago (or longer) in Bucha, we would have seen it, the internet works fine in Ukraine.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel


The fact that we aren't yet is concerning me a little too, but it's still early.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

So let's take inventory, shall we?

The narrative is literally:
-the russians massacred all these people for no reason
-then they left them lying there to be found by the west who will use it in propaganda
-also it was found by azov
-2 days after they occupied the city
-on an unrelated note they also cleansed the city of russian collaborators

Sounds legit by clownworld standards.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

azov isn't anywhere near that part of the country, but you're right about the difficulty getting accurate information out of a quickly changing war zone.

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: PassiveSeeker

So let's take inventory, shall we?

The narrative is literally:
-the russians massacred all these people for no reason
-then they left them lying there to be found by the west who will use it in propaganda
-also it was found by azov
-2 days after they occupied the city
-on an unrelated note they also cleansed the city of russian collaborators

Sounds legit by clownworld standards.

Need that link where it says Azov found them. Not a video of a random person that speaks Ukrainian that was able to find one of 10,000,000 blue arm bands. That video is as real to me as that truck ride video through Brucha is to you. One that isn’t RT please.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker
Of course the sources are Russian. Would you expect them to be American?

Give me one reason as to why it would benefit Russia to leave corpses in the street being while fully aware of media war optics.

Now give me one reason as to why it WOULDN'T benefit the U.S. to alter a situation against Russia while being fully aware of media war optics.