How do people with IQs of 140 - 200 think?

LiquidationOfDiscrepancy
How do geniuses with IQ's Of 140 - 200 think? How do you geniuses feel emotionally, socially, and what are your ideologies in life?
I would like to hear from posters who have official test results, and other forms of IQ test.



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I had seen this posting, on this site, using this computer, 3 years ago. Having a... hyper-assiduousingly begrudging allowed me to never forget. Or forget to forget. Either way, I'm sorry; what I mean to convey is that I remember it so, because I never really forget. Or forget to forget. Either way, I'm sorry; going off topic here. Let me start over. So I came to this site three years ago, and wished to reply to this thread either one year after the last reply, or in three years, regardless, whichever happened upon me first. Three years to the day it is. I am responding because I am unsure of myself, and was unsure of what my self would be three years from then. I do not wish to convey how I think, as much as I'd like to ramble on about how I think. Contrapositively (sorry I make up words) I'd like to start off by saying I think in dualities. Or in binary. Or in stereo. Whichever medium you choose. Anyway, exclusively according to the Standford-Binet Intelligence Quotient Test I have an estimated IQ of 202. Therefore I believe I do not actually fit your desired pool of genius soup. But given that the Standford-Binet, or any IQ test for that matter, tend to become exceedingly inaccurate when dealing with very high scores, I will, in lieu of your absence, allow myself to answer accordingly. ...I think in dualities. (Get it?) It's sort of like the dualist interpretation of the Quantum Mind-Body Problem. Sounds cool right? Like most people whom have commented on, or replied to your question, I find it exceptionally easy to string together different concepts, so that when tied and bound, make absolute sense. I find myself distant from most everyone I know, and because of my pitfalls, I tend to fail at human life in general. But I'm good at faking my failure. I can converse with, and do appreciate most people. If someone is nice to me, and hopefully (but inconsequential to this examining) nice to other people, then where and when am I allowed to fill the void and be negative in return? Never. That frustrates me. But also, I am allowed to be frustrated, so no harm done. It's nice to be a nice person. I have a heart too, despite what it might sound like. ...What else? I like the color red. I like it a lot. I don't cut into my wrists because that is socially and humanistically unappealing. That frustrates me. I suppose I do everything the way I do everything because I am supposed to. Like I said, I think in dualities. Sorry. My fear is that I get a response to this post. I really would not like that. I would like to be selfish and brag about my IQ without having to face my irrational fears. My rambling is over. Sorry. I think in dualities. Now that I'm done rambling, I would like to say that in person, one wouldn't begin to think that there is anything wrong with me. Through text though, my God, I sound like a psychopath. I will attempt, now, to talk more calmly. On to the three latter questions. 1. Emotionally I feel but bliss. Sometimes though, I burn with anger at my calmness. That's not to say I don't have emotions. I love my family. And the few friends I have. I love the world, inexorably. They are my people. I am just a weird version, like many others whom call humanity their home. 2. Socially, I'm for the most part adept. Although it's all fake. But not fake in the way you'd assume. I do not fake my emotions socially, and de-finitely don't do it manipulatively to get what I want. I do it because I care. I care not to hurt people. And I care about successfully bonding with people. And not because of Kant and his Good Will to do your duty for the sake of duty, but because I do have compassion. 3. Ideologically, my beliefs vary. As one poster put it, nothing is true, everything is just varying degrees of probability in being true. What that poster left out though, or otherwise hadn't thought of, was that even the very notion that nothing is true abides by it's own rules. One cannot cherry-pick, especially not just one cherry. Saying that nothing is true also must accept that it too is sometimes not true. Sometimes things are true. And that is the hardest problem I have ever encountered. It straddles the brain like magnesium. Other ideologies I hold, ideologically at least, are that no one thing is ever entirely good. It's the same concept as "nothing is truth." Another ideology that I love to hate and hate to love is the human spirt, and it's "quantum entanglement" of sorts with it's own god-complex, or some kind of agonist (think of neurotransmitters) that acts like a god-complex but is not. But that's getting a little too confusing, I believe. Anyway, all in all, any way, I'd hope that I turned myself around, and no longer sound insane, although I hope you think I still am. Because I still am. I like the color red. A lot. I think in dualities. Sorry. There, you see? I hope from my ramblings you can become your own archeologist of sorts and dig out any nuggets of fascination you'd like. One more thing though, on that note, I would like to say that being intelligent, like I am, is not as fascinating as you might believe. I speak in jest, mostly, of course. I'm not one for irony. Alright, goodbye. Nice to meet all of you. My name's Mark.

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I think pretty clearly really.

LiquidationOfDiscrepancy
How do geniuses with IQ's Of 140 - 200 think? How do you geniuses feel emotionally, socially, and what are your ideologies in life?
I would like to hear from posters who have official test results, and other forms of IQ test.

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Backwards, inside-out, upside down, lateral, big picture, microscopic...

Emotional intelligence complements a high IQ...empathic, gentle, understanding, circumspect...

My IQ...50

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The question of how a person thinks would be better if phrased as to why the individual thinks the way they do. First, IQ is monumentally over glorified to a point where it apparently determines and is synonymous with whether a person is intelligent. However, through personal experience and common logic, I've found this reasoning to be a mere fallacy.

Hi My name's J, I'm 15 and I'd like to share my thoughts on this. I'll give a little information about myself for reference. While I do not believe it is a marker for what truly makes me intelligent, I have a measured IQ of 156 [r: 151-164]. Not bad, huh? Well, to be honest, I could care less about what it is. A high IQ might mean that you possess more adept pattern recognition skills or have a greater retention of information, but it does not grant intelligence. In the words of Albert Einstein, "Knowledge is limited; imagination encircles the world." I've grown to accept this as my personal mantra, an ethos that I attempt to emulate in my daily life.

I can carry a conversation with a professor of psychology at Princeton University, but shudder at the daunting task of conversing with the thoughtless and boring kids who act as a shell of what peers should be. I know I'm coming off as cynical, but believe me when I say that I'm truly an optimist.

If I were to try encapsulating what I thought made me intelligent (a statement I often and readily question) in a single word, it would be this one: creativity. However, there's an aspect that needs to be taken into account, something which supplements this ingenuity. Curiosity. Together, they drive me forward. Two principles that play off each other so beautifully that a poet couldn't do their interplay justice, and I'm no Po. These attributes have led me to generating a hydrogen powered engine, a new system of transportation and CO2 emission distillers. I love to create and I love to explore. Knowledge is my drug, curiosity my supplier and creativity the kingpin.

first of all, sorry for my plain english... what I've noticed so far:

1) I tend to analyze things more than "common" folks
2) It doesnt take me much time to grasp new concepts properly, unless they are too easy. Then again, I can not get them.
3) I like to have a proper structure/order. not only in my thoughts, but also in all the things I learn. This ma
4) I have a strong desire to understand how other people think and what lead them to think and to react as they do. And to understand how I could make other people act in a certain way. Well, it used to be interesting, but it's nonsense since if I m shaping people, they turn out to be a reflection of myself. thus the my world becomes flat.
5) so many times I asked myself exactly the same question, just the other way round. how do "average" people think? do they have so kind of blinders on their thought process?
6) sometimes I have some jumps in my thought process

my abilities? I can understand and structure concepts. that's it.
but there is one big lesson I ve learned. After all, it s not the difference in IQ that matters, it's the difference in drive, will, motivation (however you will call it). unfortunately I ve learned this at the end of my masters. So even though my intelligence might be high due to IQ, it is pretty low as I did not have this insight earlier.

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I'm not sure, really. I process information faster than most folks and I hypercotextualize information, which means that I can make unusual connections.

I do that too.

And nobody ever gets it... As far as I know I am not in that range in the OP though.

reply to post by LiquidationOfDiscrepancy


This pretty much sums up most intellectuals, not sure if it is verbatim or not...

"The deeper the stream, the less noise it makes."

A poster from my childhood. But apt for my entire life, and many of the lives of my brothers and sisters if the responses in this thread are any indication. Last IQ test was 135, about 10 years ago, on a not-so-good day as it were. Not sure what my best numbers would be, but I both amaze and scare the hell out of myself regularly. God bless.

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There are different forms of intelligence as well, your mind may simply work in the same mean in that one way. I see people struggle with things I find to be simplistic, and vice-versa. Some things make my brains hurt.

Well im 140 and due to my career choice im a thicky compared to alot I meet.

140+ seem to fall into two catagorys

Really organised, anal, neat, exact in everything.

Disorganised, laid back and not careing on anything that doesnt intrest them or is of relevence (me), but obssesive over the task at hand. Which i guesd is were the mad scientist sterotype comes from!


Both groups get frusterated at what we see as ignorance.

And there seems to be a higher percent of people with dyslexia. Infact a lot of doctors I meet cant spell or write for the life of them!

Id also say depression and mental health issues are higher too.

reply to post by LiquidationOfDiscrepancy


I've been tested twice, once at 119, another at 125. Now I do not think I am overly brilliant, and all the IQ test really does is test your ability to recognize patterns and solve problems. This does not necessarily make you brilliant. There are plenty of people with high IQ scores who would not fit the bill of genius. I think true geniuses have incredible imaginations along with their ease of recognizing patterns both natural and man made, as well as immaculate problem solving skills to top it off.

I can not say that I believe someone with a high IQ thinks any differently than someone with average or low IQ. I believe they likely think about different things, or in different perspectives but not any "differently" than you or I.

I've always had a knack for seeing things from all sides. I can look at the bigger picture so to speak, as well as all the individual parts and what they do for the larger picture, as well the importance of the bigger picture for all the individual parts.

IQ really isn't as important as many of those blessed with a high score often boast. If you have no imagination you will simply regurgitate what has already been done and said. True geniuses are dreamers.

I am in your range--- 99th percentile on ACT and SAT back in high school. National Merit Scholar, University sophomore Physics award, even though I was a Chemistry major, Phi Beta Kappa, and medical school grad.
I don't think that the way I think is much different than average folk--perhaps just a little more able to tune into what is actually the problem that they are attempting to alleviate. My job is to identify and alleviate suffering/ailments.

Socially, I can mix comfortably with Hillbillies, cowboys, scientists, millionaires, and politicians. But I live alone with dogs in an isolated house in the hills.

My thinking has improved as my testosterone decreases--and as alcohol is avoided.

Ideologically, I'm a Constitutional conservative and a Stoic/Christian.

IQ has value only in-so-far as it increases survival likelihood. There is no good way to measure the IQ of the Khoi-San, but they would bear us all in Desert survival.


Ideologically, I'm a constitutional

crazyewok
Well im 140 and due to my career choice im a thicky compared to alot I meet.

140+ seem to fall into two catagorys

Really organised, anal, neat, exact in everything.

Disorganised, laid back and not careing on anything that doesnt intrest them or is of relevence (me), but obssesive over the task at hand. Which i guesd is were the mad scientist sterotype comes from!

Fully agree with this assessment. The first group is the system experts that seem to lack true originality, but can efficiently navigate the best possible routes through whatever system they're working with. The latter group may very well be quite slackerish, and seem not to be doing much, then out pops an insight, or a crystallized view of an invention needed for a problem they've been working on. I'm in the latter as well.

Both groups get frusterated at what we see as ignorance.

And there seems to be a higher percent of people with dyslexia. Infact a lot of doctors I meet cant spell or write for the life of them!

Yes, dyslexia, and adhd. Funky wiring going on up there!

Id also say depression and mental health issues are higher too.

You know what's interesting? IQ negatively correlates with a wide range of illnesses, both physical and psychological, until a certain threshold is breached. I've heard it again flips back at the highest ends. It seems this middle range, perhaps 125-145 or so, is where the geniuses may pop out.

I never took any official written tests but did take some online tests and scored in a range from 130 to 150 I believe if I remembered correctly. It seemed like I did better if I got more sleep.

In High School I did have a couple of people label me as a genius. I thought they were probably idiots. I did not and still do not think I am any genius. I did well in classes that interested me. If the class did not, I had trouble. English literature was a subject that I was not very interested in. I was like an expert in spending the least amount of time possible on the subject and still passing the Literature class in High School. In spite of all that, I still somehow ended up with one of the top ten grades in my High School class. That went downhill in college. I wasn't interested in certain subjects and that made things hard for me. I changed majors to something more interesting.

If something interests me I study it well. If not I could care less and know probably as much as any idiot talking about it. I have some relatives that made straight A's in college graduating with 4.0 grade averages. I didn't do quite that well. I think I should have picked a major I was more interested in from the start. One of my nieces won a national science award. Knowing some people who did a lot better than you did in college or have a lot higher paying jobs than you do, certainly does not make you feel like any genius.

I had my moments and became an engineer but certainly did not get a very highly paid job. I could make a lot more but I would likely have to move to someplace much colder and or out in the boondocks. I feel frustrated a lot by other drivers on the road. As an example, I had to wait 2 whole minutes late at night for someone who decided to wait for a green light to turn right. They were in the turn lane in front of me blocking me. Almost no one was on the road except me, them and one other car waiting to go straight. No one went through the intersection.

I see idiots everywhere. You can turn right on red in South Carolina. I try to have patience but I'm not always good at it. People looking at their phones and just stopping in the road blocking me are the most annoying. It's now illegal to do that in my town but I never saw anyone get a ticket so far.
I understand I do make more than the typical American so I count my blessings and am thankful for that.

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I'm surprised that an individual such as yourself with such high grammar, and fine use of a thesaurus that you do not properly punctuate or format your text.

I understood what you were saying, and I have to admit although a little all over the place it was interesting to see what you had to say.

How ever it would have been nice to have at least minor breaks in the wall that was your monologue. Certainly gave me some insight into the way which you think.

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I'm not sure IQ has anything to do with survivability. I'm sure there are plenty of well rounded, high IQ folk who will admittedly tell you they would be absolutely lost with out cause if they were dumped in the woods with the shirts on their back.

IQ means nothing but the ability to identify and solve a problem in our logical world, this does not always translate into practical solutions to the physical world. You may be able to invent great things, and solve complex mathematical problems but building something that takes years of hands on practice for the first time is not a "gift," or thinking matter but rather an art learned over years of practice. Many survival skills are often said to be "unteachable", and with that in mind if you have never fished you can not expect to master it on your first try. The same goes for building a fire from nothing but the dirt sticks and rocks you can find. Same for finding food, you can have the worlds highest IQ but no idea how to identify edible from inedible plants, or how to hunt, skin, dress, butcher or prepare your kill.

IQ scores are impressive and do serve a purpose in our modern lives, they do suggest one person will be a better problem solver over another, this how ever does not mean they are better suited for one thing over another. Nature has a funny way of balancing things out, and a perfectly rounded human being has yet to exist lest he be god.

I've had the official test and I can say one who falls within that range will depend on many factors. Do they have a personality disorder? Ted Bundy had a high IQ so how did he think? Do they have impulse control problems or a full blown mental health issue along with a high IQ? If so your looking at endless variables to their thinking but it usually makes them difficult to be around and/or makes them feel alienated (especially if they have something like bipolar or autism). Also - IQ will show strengths and weaknesses (spatial off the charts but perceptual reasoning just above average maybe).

For me - it has changed through the years. Right now I feel a bout of Alzheimer's coming on (not old enough for that but my mind is frustrating me lately as I'm not as quick some days so not sure what's up with that yet - it's rather frightening sometimes so getting it checked out).

When young - deep thinker. Figured out abstract concepts easily and without explanation. Wanted to be social but was painfully shy. Very sensitive (feel things deeply). Didn't do so well in school for a period of time due to not applying myself (middle school mainly). IQ is ones capacity to learn so still need to engage - put forth effort and have motivation.

As time has gone by: Love to learn. Always searching for deeper and alternative meaning/explanations to things (so motivation is there), - like to read the latest research and do research myself to keep it going. Open minded because I know there are alternate meanings (perceptions, unknowns, etc.). Socially - have always been more satisfied with a couple of true friends but no longer as shy - can mingle quite well at a gathering and not afraid to speak up.

With others - I sometimes get impatient about the stupid things people do but not because I think they are lacking - but rather because I know people can do better on the basic stuff. For example - lack of common sense most of the time (not just silly lapses we all have), and lack of respect, integrity, and decency - wish more would work on these because they actually benefit the holder of these qualities more than a person may realize.

I'm Just a normal person IMO - like sites like ATS since it fulfills the desire to explore and exercise my mind on just about any topic. Interesting thread to read - simply because it is subjective so like to see what all have in common - outside of what the research says.

I was tested as a kid. I don't really remember. My mom says they told her I had an incredibly high iq. Either way, I also have a horribly severe case of adhd. I typically have eight, to ten different things on my mind; it just jumps from thing to thing. I have incredible difficulty finishing a project cause I get bored, and my mind jumps.

I'm smart, but I personally don't think of myself as a genius, or anything. I have an incredible ability though. An example would be how i learned html and css. I just started viewing the source of all the pages, and picked up on it. I actually have trouble learning from someone else. My mind can break apart problems very quickly.

I don't believe anyone is 'dumb'. Everyone has their own areas of knowledge.

Also, dunno if its true, but Iheard ienstien couldn't even tie his own shoes....

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Einstein was told he would never amount to anything. But once he applied himself and found his learning style and strength.....well we know.

reply to post by BO XIAN


I'm still not reading the whole thread. It's not that important a topic to me.

However, I'd add that

it appears that we high IQ sorts tend to:

1. enjoy NOVELTY (even above average) complexity and complex associations, connections, patterns and ferreting them out of the background noise.

2. have significantly more neurons in our corpus collosum . . . fostering greater degrees of communication between the two halves of the brain. Evidently that was quite true of Einstein.


#1. above is my personal observation stuff and some research stuff.

reply to post by LiquidationOfDiscrepancy


I fall between the 132 to 155 range depending on which test you want to use, I suffer actually, from a near flawless memory, which hampers my interpersonal relationships more often than not, as I don't ever forget those missteps others make, even if many years removed.

I wish I could say something along the lines of ' how can a dog understand the thought processes of a man' , but I have never thought as anyone else but myself, so I could not say as to how my thought process or experiences differ from everyone else.

I can say though, that most folks obsession with social media and the like makes me physically I'll. I am a very private and recluse sort, I have several very close life long friends, but would not call more than a hand full of folks close in an emotional context.

I learned quite early on that my emotions are very overpowering, and if not kept at arms length can completely override any sense of reason I throw against them.

A stranger would think me cold, however, I am much like Star Treks Vulcan race, my emotions are too overpowering, so I must suppress them for the good of myself and those around me most of the time.

Those close to me, those 'in the circle, as it were would tell you I am very loving and kind, often doing anything in my power for those I care about, with little to no thought given to life or limb or any other adverse outcome to my actions.

In short, those close to me have seen the soft white underbelly of what a stranger would think a hardened armor like carapace.

I spend almost every waking hour devouring information, that I contemplate at length when not busy consuming said information.

I have quite a nack for pattern recognition, and make connections large scale on subjects that often times leaves those around me, even those many think very smart, mouth agape as what I have just said and offered up proofs and connections to other events about sink in and hit home. At times taking days or even weeks before all the connections sink in for them, at which time they almost always come back for more.

In short, it is complicated, and not an easy answer, thanks for asking though, as I have enjoyed many of the other members responses. It is nice to know I am not the only very private, antisocial thinker out there.

Try to imagine what Tesla went through every day, some of us live it in everyday life today, though I doubt many would trade it for a life on twitter and facebook.