How do people with IQs of 140 - 200 think?

I was tested by a psychologist last year and rang in at a whoppin 91. Interesting thing though, I have made mainly 90s and 100s this fall semester on my college psych 101 quizes and tests.

Perhaps I rubbed Dr Ramirez the wrong way.

It's a fascinating world we live in....the classifications we hand out as if it were candy.

Hey Zip...

If yer old enough I'll buy ya a beer when I move out your way...
(Looking at D/FW+SA) The overthrowing forign govt. thing sounds too familiar... LOL

I think part of human nature is to label and classify everything just so it can be put in it's proper slot it's just our obsurd nature as investigators. (try to file a hand full of water, or a nose full of air - with out a container)

I have noticed extreams posted - seemingly obsesive focus to details of things, or an inability to focus with little median ground.

I end up finding a topic and really tear it up, this will be an obsession - even through some distractions, however if a distraction hits at the wrong time the topic will end up sitting under piles of rubble on my desk for years -unless (or until) something causes a renewed interest in it. Then the obsession kicks in. (I have a math book in the works - should be some where around 600 pages er.... here some where - eh some day I'll have another look at it)

I do have interests eg. Computers, I'm on one well over 10 hrs a day.
However there are aspects of computers that I would very much like to learn (eg. programing - writing code) etc. that I can't seem to get my mind around, or learn for lack of attention span. (Some isn't difficult, but I never got databases beyond the elementry level - say first two chapters) I can however go through code (eg. PHP/Perl) edit it, and splice in other features to come up with something that does work. (To any code guy this is childs play - of cource to non programers this can seem to be a miraculous feat)

Any Ideas or suggestions on over comming it or anything?
Is there a name for it? (Never looked)

(If I were a very rich man, I would hire people to complete the projects I've started...)

[edit on 11/23/2005 by dancer]

Hey all

My I.Q is 142, and I'm 13.

Well I think I think like everyone else, I just talk to myself in my head.
But not as a conversation between two people.

I am in Year 7, and I did a test, and it compares me, with the average year 7s.
I got year 10 in all fields
In Science I learn NOTHING, I just sit there, and "learn" about crappy things I learnt 5 years ago.

I think I'm the only 13 year old who wonders how the universe started.
The "big bang" theory is completly illogical.
How can there just be a explotion and HUGE amounts of material being created in a second?
I don't beleive in god, BUT I don't think god is fake either.

I get very annoyed at people who think they know everything, don't use paragraphes, can't spell and don't use common sence.
Like god, how hard is to to type so its understandable???

At school I aren't a loner and have lots of friends, but not like hundreds of them

At Recess or as preppys would call it "play time ", I don't sit in the Canteen being a Emo or G33|

My I.Q. was registered at 145 when I was at school. I got told off by the school counsellor, as my grades didn't show for it; especially in general maths. I was more interested in algebra and trig.

My mum said that I got bored and usually read chapters way ahead of my classmates.

At home, I would read encyclopedias cover to cover. My mum felt that my grades would have shown the extent of my I.Q. if I had been allowed to develop my interests.

According to my parents, despite poor grades-I was much more knowledgable than my brother, who was an honour student. I retained information long after I studied it.

Originally posted by rachel07
My I.Q. was registered at 145 when I was at school. I got told off by the school counsellor, as my grades didn't show for it; especially in general maths. I was more interested in algebra and trig.

Very close to my school experience. I am within 5 points of you. I left school in the 9th grade and I didn't receive a passing grade in anything except band from the fourth grade on although I was never made to repeat a grade. Before beginning college (4.0, BTW) I took the GED for the purpose of entry to the military and received an Honors GED, whatever that means (they said I had scored within the top 1% of GED recipients nationwide since 1960.)

I personally don’t think higher IQ types think much differently than most, however we do more of it. One thing I have observed in myself that others around me don't seem to report is an ability to follow multiple lines of thought at the same time. I don't do it intentionally, but I will often catch myself pondering the nature of the universe, the relationship of God and Satan, what type of snake I want to purchase and the chess board in front of me all at once. I do this frequently. I think it possible that my mind moves a little faster sometimes and that I am actually jumping back and forth between thoughts rapidly. Whatever the mechanics behind it, I consider it an asset.

BTW, I don’t think I am actually smarter then most others, I just think differently. This is not always an advantage. I struggle with spelling for some reason and read at a slower pace than I think most others do, although I seem to retain nearly all of what I read. My spelling is not due to any lack of practice; I read several hundred pages per day of various paper materials as well as spending countless hours online. I also probably average about 10 pages per day of writing, mostly my random thoughts pounded out on a keyboard as typing seems to allow my thoughts to flow, as if slowing them down enough to make sense. I also don’t speak well; I get confused easy and sometimes stutter out of frustration when I try to voice my opinions in a literal sense. Here, on my computer, it flows so much better. Like I said, I think the typing slows my thoughts.

EDIT:

How do you geniuses feel emotionally, socially, and what are your ideologies in life?

How did I miss that?

Emotionally, I am severely withdrawn and can rarely stand the company of others, although I crave it. I cry allot (did I just say that?) for a "tough guy" and get touched emotionally very easy (more so since the war.). In contrast, I am very level headed and can react normally (better?) under stress, to include a proven ability to stay calm with bullets flying past my face (they sound like something out of starwars, in case you were wondering.) I have a very short temper with people who annoy me, and often hurt others feelings with sharp, quick and direct disengaging language. If I am not interest in hearing what someone is saying, I simply tell them, a bad habit of mine. If they continue, I get very angry.

Socially life is almost non-existent. I have never made friends at work, I never make friends period, actually. I have a single friend from 8 years ago that I call every now and then just so we don’t loose contact. Most who know me call me an asshole to my face, and my wife has heard that about me so much that she just shrugs it off in agreement, but she always tells me who said it. It is just something we are used to, and not something that bothers me. I tend not to be a people person so this works out for me just fine, keeps everyone at a distance. I am married with four children, and my family is a different story, I keep them close. Family is very important to me, and loyalty among family is tops. My wife is my best friend, kind of my only real friend. I hate parties, and I mean HATE. I feel the same way about clubs. I avoid both at all costs. Crowds kind of freak me out, and I am agoraphobic (diagnosed); I have an extremely hard time going outside during the day, to the point puking and having panic attacks. I have to be in home during the day, unless my wife is by my side holding my hand, and I always work graveyards. I think has more to due with PTSD from the war than anything and I hope it will pass.

My ideologies: Christian, Libertarian, Free. I hate authority.


WOW, I don’t think I have expressed this much about my personal life in all my other ATS adventures combined




BTW, I posted without reading most of the other pages, and I apologize for commenting blindly, but that’s whole lotta pages.


[edit on 25-11-2005 by cavscout]

Geat posts

You're spelling is fine AFAIK and, cool, I never knew people could have two lines of though at the same time!

Well heres a test. it takes me rouphly one second to read a line of text on ATS and my screen resolution is 1280x1024

cya

P.S bout your avatar, its not always males who think they're better

[edit on 25/11/05 by JimmyCarterIsSmarter]

Originally posted by JimmyCarterIsSmarter
Well heres a test. it takes me rouphly one second to read a line of text on ATS and my screen resolution is 1280x1024

It took me about 3 seconds to read the above.

P.S bout your avatar, its not always males who think they're better

The point I was trying to make with the avatar was that she is hot, and many a man would desire her, even have thoughts of taking her against her will. Well, you can see that will be no easy task with that weapon in her hand. Mr. Colt called his invention the equalizer, and anyone who attempted to rape this pretty young Danger Girl would find out why. It is a statement against victim disarmament laws.

Ok thanks
I'm a youngen thats why I didn't know



cya

[edit on 25/11/05 by JimmyCarterIsSmarter]

Originally posted by Zipdot
In short, I feel like I can take on the WORLD!

I have UNLIMITED POWER at my fingertips... "What should I do today?" I ask myself. "Overthrow a foreign government?"

I squint in consideration, to the sound of Cheerios crunching.

"Oh, look! A puppy!" I think as I glance out the window. "What was I saying?"

Zip

Your funny zip, and when BSB fans get really bored they make a second like this one. But it's the only site of it's kind, plus we have this whole thing where "American TRL" won't play BSB videos, and they BS'd the press(J-14 actually), and tried to make B-rok(the blonde on the far right) wife's look like a liar. Here's the biggest fan site on it.

Which is sad, because me and other fans have been e-mailing "F minus" like crazy, and we're still getting screwed. BAD CONTROLED POLLING SHOWS BAD!

Okay, just a catchy title, I know, lol. I have an IQ of 230, but I say that not to brag, but to point out this...an IQ Test isn't a real test of your intelligence, it is a measure of what you know, with selective points of testing you.

The people that make IQ Tests pick out certain topics, certains knowledgeable areas, & that's it. They don't try to assimilate life experience into this, they don't pick anything where you might have figured out on your own. It's all based on a text book somewhere, where someone might have have pushed you to try harder to achieve a grade as good as the rest of the class, not an actual free idea, that you may have come up on your own. That to Me, is just sad.

You need to base someones intelligence on life experience, on their maturity level, on their acceptance of other people, on their ability to overcome their own ignorances, their pre-concieved notions, to overcome their "racial programming".

Enough said, do your own thinking, don't think the way everyone else does, have an original idea.

Short and to the point: It is of my knowledge that a person should not be measured in importance by their IQ.

People always seem to bow down to those that boast their IQ as superior, but I'm telling you that it should intimidate no one.

Superiority is defined by ACTION, not by a number that supposedly says so.

If Einstein never put any of his knowledge to action, he would be as "superior" as Burger Flippin' Bob down the street.

To those reading, to those whom this may apply, if you possess any knowledge whatsoever, you have discovered that action opens your true closet of genius.


To note how I see IQ affect my surroundings in casual life, I have noticed that many people do not see things in a similar light that I do, or just those that I have noticed, because I realize that I am not alone. This state doesn't prevent explaining myself on matters that can be learned of, and often results in relationships to others. One simple suggestion I make to people I talk to is that they should not feel inferior to anyone, and not to believe that their misfortune is circumstantial.

As anyone could have simply guessed, I do not write the same way that I speak, and I communicate on equal levels. This surprises many people when I get into the deep meanings of subjects, because they could've sworn to themselves I was a kid from the "stupid classes."

My stance on my own IQ, being in the low 150 area, is in low regards. For those that think it is the ultimate description of one's genius, please congratulate me for my unwavering superiority. For those that have more sense, be skeptical of my accomplishments and think of me as Burger Flippin' Bob until further proofs.




[edit on 26-11-2005 by E_Pluribus_Unum]

Originally posted by magnito_student
I was tested by a psychologist last year and rang in at a whoppin 91. Interesting thing though, I have made mainly 90s and 100s this fall semester on my college psych 101 quizes and tests.

Perhaps I rubbed Dr Ramirez the wrong way.

It's a fascinating world we live in....the classifications we hand out as if it were candy.

'IQ Tests aren't a real measure of intelligence, otherwise George W Bush wouldn't be in office

Okay, just a catchy title, I know, lol. I have an IQ of 230, but I say that not to brag, but to point out this...an IQ Test isn't a real test of your intelligence, it is a measure of what you know, with selective points of testing you. ' spartanleonidis

IQ tests show how well one can do on an IQ test, and little more. My IQ was a source of pride for many years, but has been of little importance to me for a long time now. Hitler had a high IQ, but Mother Teresa is far more inspiring to me, and I don't care a bit what hers was. In Jr. High, I compared report cards with a buddy, he had four D's in four remedial classes, and I had four A's in four honors classes, yet we laughed about it, cuz we both knew he was sharper than me, wittier, and a quicker thinker on his feet. Most of my school buds were below average students, yet I feel they taught me a lot. The 'gifted' classmates I knew were by comparison, predictable, awkward, and socially inept.
Knowledge is the result of study, wisdom, of action.
The heart is more important for a fulfilling life than the brain, in my view. It took me a long time to decide that. For years, I sided with my brain when the two were at odds. No more. Logic is extremely valuable, but without love, it is nothing. Like Barney Rubble said, "It takes a smart man to know how stupid he is Fred." Or as Peter Gabriel said, "The more I learn, the less I know."
I have a friend who confided to me his IQ was over 200, and that may be true, but I have other friends in the 90 to 100 range who I honestly find to be wiser. Education does not equal intelligence, and from what I have seen, life experience, hardships, suffering, difficulty, and survival often result in great wisdom.

Bump for a good thread.

i think wat wyrdeone said was true, i also think that some people will find more success in life by following an academic path while others will be successful by gaining all their knowledge from worldly experience. my IQ is 147 but i never think that i really have any problems with social interaction. i find that academia is my way forward, but thats just me and besides why shudnt it be, i aspire to be an architect, how else would i get professional approval other than academia, altho some ppl as i said b4 wen they become adults find that the school of life teaches them evrythin they need to know. in answering the original question more accurately i wud say that ppl with high IQs tend to be nuerotic sometimes slightly and sometimes to the point of torture.

Hmmmmmm.......i havent been in this thread in a lonnnnnngggggggg time...whatve i missed?!?! lol Well i havent been on ATS in forever....I posted about my own....idk experiences with how i think, not that i dont think now though....i dont know if you can remember(you meaning the thread starter) but i mentioned my experiences with thinking so much ive felt on the verge of insanity....ive found a great solution....i surround myself w/ stupid ppl. it works...i havent had one of those tramas in forever now!!!!! YAY! It's actually me slowing down my thinking and not thinking as much which i dont like alot, but i really just need a break sumtimes.....

Originally posted by Vesuvius 13
Well i havent been on ATS in forever....I posted about my own....idk experiences with how i think, not that i dont think now though....i dont know if you can remember(you meaning the thread starter) but i mentioned my experiences with thinking so much ive felt on the verge of insanity...

First off let me give you a big welcome back!

Of course I remember you, you were having trouble fitting in with your chronological peer group, and you were on the verge of mental instability.
Which I am at the moment starting to feel. Let me ask you, why did you decide to 'dumb' yourself down? I will go into detail of my own experience I am going through at a later time in this thread. I hope you find your true self, and stick to it. Don't let anyone change who you really are.

Liquid Out..

I have an IQ of 142 and joined Mensa in March of ’05. I always had a knack for seeing individual things fall into place with a larger scheme, like puzzle pieces. I guess it makes sense that I ended up with a job in the IT field. I have a very good memory for detail and can recall almost all of the information that I’ve stockpiled (mostly irrelevant) in quick time. That is unless I have temporarily hindered my short term memory for some reason

ATS is the perfect place to practice this. Not only do I need to recall relevant information in a relatively short period of time, but it also requires proof. The ability to surf and scan for info is a skill that comes with the territory. It may seem like second nature to most people on this site, but it’s a rarer ability than one would expect. I learned this first hand working as desktop support.

True geniuses are supposed to account for about 2% of the world’s population. It’s funny how many geniuses there are on ATS. I joined ATS because of the absolute need to find other likeminded people. People who have enough sense to question everything and find reasonable, if not absolute truth.

The thing I find most disturbing about being a genius is that the difference in IQ between me and the leader of the free world, is approximately the same as the difference between his IQ and Coco the gorilla’s.

I process information very quickly- it's like making a lot of connections simultaneously- and often react and comment way before most colleages have fully processed the first subject.

This is hugely apparent on the road! Bunch of nimrods out there...

Then there's the visual-spatial thinking types.




You can guess my IQ...more fun that way.

I think primarily in spatial concepts and images, which comes in handy for complex systems, 3-d modeling, graphic arts, and engineering. The problem is sometimes my ideas don't adequately translate down into verbiage and I rely heavily of graphical representations to get my points across. see visual thinking

So show me the pics!



Be aware that your peak activity time, biochemistry, anxiety level and type of mood can effect your IQ score. Some say working abstract/math puzzles and listening to music helps get higher scores. In the end, you can still be a genius, drug-using, homeless bum, so there's a lot more to it than just above average synaptic activity. It's just one facet of many on the gem of life.

Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite direction. ~ Albert Einstein

Sorry, never mind.

[edit on 14/3/06 by byhiniur]