Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: alldaylong

I'm curious how Russia will explain this.

Russia are loosing a lot of equipment.



An aerial view.

Is it my imagination, or is Lavrov practically unseen these days?

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

With what Russia did and the worlds reaction is Lavrov even needed anymore?

a reply to: Xcathdra

Seems to have fallen from what passes for grace in Putin's regime.

Cheers

And yet another suspicious fire,at an aerospace institute 43 miles outside of Moscow-substation which supplies power to the institute destroyed-

www.msn.com...

a reply to: Xcathdra

Im just going to put this out there as an FYI I have seen lots of chatter about Russian soldier's calls being intercepted where they are planning to go awol on the 26th. I don't know if this is real other than 3 intercepts I listened to online. However if its true its apparently being planned by unit commanders. I guess will see if they are right the one I listened to said he was being teased by the Chechens for their outdated equipment.

a reply to: Xcathdra

prolly claim its american disinformation from hunter bidens laptop.

a reply to: yuppa


Or that imaginary 'hackers' stole it so we shouldn't discuss the crimes they exposed.

a reply to: yuppa

Any information that shows the Russian lies is automatically labeled as disinfo from the usual suspects. It is up there with them trying to preach how wrong Ukraine is for refusing to recognize insurrectionists and fighting to retain Ukrainian sovereign territory while at the same time they try to desperately give Russia a pass on the Chechen war. If they acknowledge what Russia did in Chechnya as ok (which they do) then they have a problem trying to claim what Ukraine is doing is wrong.

They even try to justify Russian actions by arguing the DRP/LPR are sovereign nations and then loose their sh*t when its pointed out Chechnya used the exact same method (declared independence).

That seems to be their weakness. They try going after Ukraine and then become unhinged when you draw the parallels to what Russia did in Chechnya. It is funny, and yet sad all at the same time, watching them trying to claim somehow its different.

* - Russian missile strike against one of villages in Vilniansk district of Zaporizhzhia region caused civilians casualties

* - At Bakhmut direction with the help of artillery Russian army attempted to improve tactical positions near Trypillya, Lypove and Vasylivka, battles continue, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Kurakhove direction Russian army assaulted Maryinka without success, shelled Novomykhailivka and Volodymyrivka. Russian aviation conducted airstrikes at Mykilske and Katerynivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Novopavlivske and Zaporizke directions Russian army shelled Ukrainian positions and civilian infrastructure, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Avdiyivka direction Russian army have suffered loses near Krasnohorivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - At Sevierodonetsk direction Russian army conducted assault actions near Oskolonivka, Purdivka, Schedryscheve and Smolyaninove. Offensive has been repelled, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report


* - At Lyman direction Russian army shelled Lyman, Ozerne, Zakitne, Dibrova and Serebryanka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian aviation conducted airstrikes against civilian infrastructure in Vrubivka and Bakhmut, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian army shelled Virnopillya, Dibrivne and Dovhenke at Sloviansk direction, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the morning report

* - Russian army deployed Iskander-M launchers in Belgorod region

* - Ukrainian military destroyed Russian pontoon crossing over Siversky Donets river near Serebryanka village

* - President Zelensky:Had a phone conversation with MarioDraghi at his initiative. Talked about defensive cooperation, the need to accelerate the 6th package of sanctions and unblock Ukrainian ports. Thanked for the unconditional support for Ukraine on the path to the EU

* - Seven more civilians were killed in Russian shelling in Donetsk region

* - Russian troops shelled central Toretsk

* - Destruction as result of shelling in Lyman today

* - Russian army shelled Vremivka of Donetsk region, Olhivka, Zatyshshia, Huliaipole, Orikhiv, Novodanylivka and Kamyanske of Zaporizhzhia region, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the evening report

* - Russian army with aviation and artillery conducted assaulting actions near Lypove, Vasylivka, Maryinka and Novomykhailivka of Donetsk region, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the evening report

* - At Donetsk direction Russian army attempting to reach administrative borders of Luhansk region, conducted airstrikes against civilian infrastructure in Vrubivka of Luhansk region and Bakhmut of Donetsk region , - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the evening report

* - At Slobozhansk direction Russian army conducted artillery strikes against areas of Chornohlazivka, Prudyanka, Dementiyivka, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the evening report

* - Russian army shelled Semenivka, Bleshnya, Hirsk of Chernihiv region, conducted missile strikes against Zhytomyr and Poltava regions, - General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine says in the evening report

* - The Russian military destroyed the bridge between Severodonetsk and Lysychansk on May 21, - the chief of the Luhansk regional military administration Sergey Gaidai reported

* - Zaporizka Oblast(09:09). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Kharkiv, Kharkivska Oblast(08:59). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

As a reminder

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Resources - Where most of the updates come from.
* - Flightradar24 - tracks flights worldwide
* - Live Ukraine control map 1 - updates on the ground
* - Ukraine Control Map 2
* - Ship radar
* - Military vessel tracker
* - Institute for the Study of War (ISW)
* - Stopfake - Countering Russian propaganda about Ukraine
* - MilitaryLand - Maps

Youtube resources -
* - Speak the Truth
* - War in Ukraine
* - Artur Rehi - Estonain soldier
* - Daily Report

Social media resources -
* - Twitter - Jomini of the West - Battlefield Maps

21 May update

Key Takeaways

* Russian forces are conducting operations to cut off Ukrainian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) between Severodonetsk and Lysychansk across the Severskyi Donetsk River.

* The information space in Mariupol will likely become increasingly restricted in the coming weeks as Russian forces shift focus from completing the capture of the Azovstal Steel Plant to consolidating occupational control of the city.

* Russian troops are likely reinforcing their grouping around Kharkiv City to prevent further Ukrainian advances toward the international border.

* Russian forces may be assembling forces in certain areas of Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts to initiate further offensive operations on the southern axis.

More at URL above.

Map of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, showing the course of the Severskyi Donetsk River. Area is ca. 300 kilometers SE of Kharkiv.
Map source: OpenStreetMap



Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

need to send them some un jammable sat com phones. they use lasers to talk to sats who then relay the messages to receivers if i remember.

i wonder if we can start doing orbital drops of supplies one day.

If this is accurate-I find it very odd:

Technicians linked to the Syrian military’s infamous barrel bombs that have wreaked devastation across much of the country have been deployed to Russia to help potentially prepare for a similar campaign in the Ukraine war, European officials believe.
Intelligence officers say more than 50 specialists, all with vast experience in making and delivering the crude explosive, have been in Russia for several weeks working alongside officials from Vladimir Putin’s military.

www.irishtimes.com...

Why do the Russian military need the "expertise" of the max maxish DIY low tech barrel bomb makers from Syria?
This would almost be comical if lives were not being lost..
Doesn't Russia have far better and more industrialzed ways to make bombs than those fools?
And what about stockpiles?
They must have gigatonnes of explosives stashed away surely?

I just don't get it-unless its disinfo from western intel to make Putin seem weak i suppose.
Or could it be Putin has decided to use chemical weapons and wants to use Syrians to take the heat from him?

Who knows.

a reply to: yuppa

i wonder if we can start doing orbital drops of supplies one day.

Elon Musk is working on this right now .........

a reply to: yuppa
I'm not sure why you would want to do orbital drops of supplies. Getting material to orbit is getting less expensive, but I think it's still somewhat costly and then you need a delivery system, which probably can't compete cost-wise with this anytime soon:

US Marines test single use gliders made of plywood that could one day transport supplies to troops on the frontlines

California-based Logistic Gliders claim they can move goods up to 70 miles
Would be released at an altitude of 25,000ft from a conventional military plane
Can be used to drop as much as 1,800 pounds of cargo to US troops
They cost up to $11,000 a unit, depending upon which parachute is used

a reply to: firerescue
I think he still has quite a ways to go to compete with the glider idea, which probably hasn't been fully optimized yet either.

a reply to: firerescue

Zelensky - " Ukraine Needs Mo Money , Mo Money Mo Money " ................."Laughs " ........

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Reverting to WW II it would seem.

a reply to: alldaylong

During WWII Gliders like the WACO and HORSA were made of plywood and canvas

Many were built by piano and *Cough* coffin makers ...........

a reply to: firerescue

While the World is being Distracted by Events in the Ukraine , Communist China is Planning for WAR on Multiple Fronts . When it Happens " Right Before " the U.S. Midterm Elections , don't be Surprised if the Biden Administration and the Communist Democrats Somehow Postpone the Mid Term Elections thus Ensuring their Stay in Power..............

" Communist China shifting to a war footing against the US by preparing mobilization and preparedness efforts for a global war against the United States in the coming months, according to leaked audio.
Lockdowns in China a cover for massive mobilization, transformation of industrial infrastructure for wartime purposes. "


www.infowars.com...