I would like to draw your attention to this speech by Putin

a reply to: andy06shake

It sounds like you are surprised a politician would lie, especially when it comes to war. Did you expect Putin to be different from Biden, or Trump?

Oh, noooo Putin is doing wars, I guess we will just have to believe his lies, like we did numerous times with the west.

Or maybe you want to measure with double standards?

originally posted by: turretless

What a terrible criterion you propose!

It makes the speeches of almost all Western politicians (and especially American presidents) unworthy of attention.

By the way, I would like to know who controls the United States? Is this what millions of poor Americans are doing?

Doesn't matter as we are talking Russia right now, right? Another deflection??? Putin's speech is now in the worthy category of Iran and NK, so ya it doesn't mean much and he would say anything , and has, to put the blame of HIS actions on others.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

Doesn't matter as we are talking Russia right now, right? Another deflection??? Putin's speech is now in the worthy category of Iran and NK, so ya it doesn't mean much and he would say anything , and has, to put the blame of HIS actions on others.

If you accuse Russia of the fact that oligarchs rule there, but it turns out that oligarchs rule in the United States, then the meaning of such the accusation is not clear to me.

a reply to: turretless

The leader at the time was found to be stealing money from the people,so you wanted them to just let him get away with it?
Corrupt leaders should be removed correct? Then they had a FAIR election,you know like in CRIMEA for a new leader. The UN recognized it as legit,and as such it was legal.

Russias negotion goes liek this...
Russia:do as we say and we let you appear to be free country.
Ukraine:thats not freedom,no deal.
Rusia:bombs your house. OK now agree with us and do as we say.
Ukraine:no.
And so on,and so on.

a reply to: Terpene

Im surprised we all fell for it put it that's way considering what both our respective nations security agencies were screaming.

As to double standards, you pick a side, and on this occasion Russia is not on the correct side of the fence by just about any other nations measure or opinion.

a reply to: turretless

So we have moved from sexual fantasy to religious belief???

You do realise what forum you are in ya mad sad little deviant?

a reply to: turretless

You mean before Russia told poky pies and invaded another nation.

Aye coz you don't have a history of doing that now do you.

Ukraine is far older than Russia well Kiev over Moscow by 665 years, keep that in mind when you are bringing up history.

a reply to: turretless

Fact is Russia are going to lose slowly and by default so will the rest of the people of your nation.

Good luck via death by 1000 Ukrainian cuts, because that's what's in the post.

Fact is Ukrainian are not going to give up or stop coming for you and we are apt to help and supply them with the resources they require to push you back to your own doorstep.

originally posted by: yuppa

The leader at the time was found to be stealing money from the people,so you wanted them to just let him get away with it?
Corrupt leaders should be removed correct? Then they had a FAIR election,you know like in CRIMEA for a new leader. The UN recognized it as legit,and as such it was legal.

Russias negotion goes liek this...
Russia:do as we say and we let you appear to be free country.
Ukraine:thats not freedom,no deal.
Rusia:bombs your house. OK now agree with us and do as we say.
Ukraine:no.
And so on,and so on.

Do you have evidence of Putin stealing money?

The text of the Minsk agreements is not secret.

Everyone can read this and check what Ukraine has done.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: turretless

So we have moved from sexual fantasy to religious belief???

You do realise what forum you are in ya mad sad little deviant?

When my opponent's post lacks facts, I call it "sexual fantasies", "religious belief" or some other euphemistic definition of his/her nonsense.

a reply to: turretless

So another thing you have wrong? LoL

You got jacked wee chap, same as your lunatic man Putin, all back of the bus at the end of the table.



Bad boys what you gonna do when Ukraine come for you?

originally posted by: andy06shake

You mean before Russia told poky pies and invaded another nation.

Aye coz you don't have a history of doing that now do you.

Ukraine is far older than Russia well Kiev over Moscow by 665 years, keep that in mind when you are bringing up history.

I will disappoint you, but according to the annals, the first city where Rurik arrives is Novgorod - en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: andy06shake

Fact is Russia are going to lose slowly and by default so will the rest of the people of your nation.

Good luck via death by 1000 Ukrainian cuts, because that's what's in the post.

Fact is Ukrainian are not going to give up or stop coming for you and we are apt to help and supply them with the resources they require to push you back to your own doorstep.

I do not believe in your talent as a prophet.

I'm sorry.

a reply to: turretless

Im not disappointed as i said Kyiv is older than Moscow by 665 years.

And thats historical fact.

originally posted by: andy06shake

Bad boys what you gonna do when Ukraine come for you?

Those of them who are normal people, we will put them at our table and treat them to dishes.

We will send those people who are Nazis to Siberia to remove snow from it.

a reply to: turretless

Smashballs.

That's coz im just a pleb not a prophet.

I can however distinguish the forest from the trees.

originally posted by: andy06shake

Im not disappointed as i said Kyiv is older than Moscow by 665 years.

And thats historical fact.

I do not argue with the fact that Kyiv is older than Moscow, but Novgorod is also Russia.

a reply to: turretless

Who's this "we"? LoL

Your nothing more than a pawn to Putin.

Told how to think, what to say, how to act.

Soon it will be what to eat as well which is apt to be snow.

originally posted by: andy06shake

I can however distinguish the forest from the trees.

Perhaps we will have a chance to check it out.

originally posted by: andy06shake

Who's this "we"? LoL

Your nothing more than a pawn to Putin.

Told how to think, what to say, how to act.

Soon it will be what to eat as well which is apt to be snow.

We've just learned a lot about me and don't you think it's time to find out something about you.