I would like to draw your attention to this speech by Putin

a reply to: chr0naut

So what video will you post about the US?

originally posted by: openminded2011

I understand what is being asserted, what is actually being DONE seems to be at odds with that.

Tell us more about this with examples and evidence.

originally posted by: turretless

You explain then clearly who rules in the USA.

No one rules America, no single source is over everyone as it is in Russia.

I don't know where you got 70 billion from.

Boy, if you really think he makes 133k a year and not trolling me I feel sorry for you.

What did you personally see in the USSR?

Free education? Free medical care? Free apartments?

I saw many people sardined in to really crappy small apartments, I saw people waiting in line not really knowing what was on the other end hoping it was something they can use like shoes etc. I saw people living a life of pure drudgery almost like forced labor their whole lives with no way out. Small stores for food with either low or zero selection for most staple items, and all this was in Moscow, so I wonder how much worst in small towns. All this and much more... 5% of the haves and 95% of the have nots...

BTW I had free education, my kids have free education (EE and Doctor), I have medical care that cost me less than 1000 per year. Had 2 shoulder surgeries last year(rotator cuffs), they were free and I picked my doctor. I'm paying for my house, but it not a big deal, and is over 400 sq m, my next house when I retire will be paid off.

The difference is in both cases is we all work hard, but I reap more benefits with my work and have 1000x more choices in life.

a reply to: turretless

Russia is not a party to the Minsk Agreements and therefore could not violate them.

What? Your Ambassador to Ukraine signed both of them. In fact, I believe it may have been Russia that insisted on the No prosecution for individuals for their "actions" taken in Donbas.

ETA:> Yes I know Putin said they don't apply anymore right before Ukraine was invaded.

AS for the speech, good propaganda piece. Touches all the right bases to inflate national pride and vilify the other side. My hats off to whomever his "Joseph Goebbels" is. They read the playbook and are following it to a tee.

originally posted by: turretless
a reply to: chr0naut

So what video will you post about the US?

Do you think that video's have some sort of veracity?

LOL

Timeline of United States military operations From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But here's a few highlights, for whatever that's worth:

originally posted by: Xtrozero

No one rules America, no single source is over everyone as it is in Russia.

Boy, if you really think he makes 133k a year and not trolling me I feel sorry for you.

I saw many people sardined in to really crappy small apartments, I saw people waiting in line not really knowing what was on the other end hoping it was something they can use like shoes etc. I saw people living a life of pure drudgery almost like forced labor their whole lives with no way out. Small stores for food with either low or zero selection for most staple items, and all this was in Moscow, so I wonder how much worst in small towns. All this and much more... 5% of the haves and 95% of the have nots...

BTW I had free education, my kids have free education (EE and Doctor), I have medical care that cost me less than 1000 per year. Had 2 shoulder surgeries last year(rotator cuffs), they were free and I picked my doctor. I'm paying for my house, but it not a big deal, and is over 400 sq m, my next house when I retire will be paid off.

The difference is in both cases is we all work hard, but I reap more benefits with my work and have 1000x more choices in life.

The state when no one rules a country is called anarchy.

I don't need your regrets.

I don't know what years you were in Moscow. If during the reign of Gorbachev (a favorite of the West) then Soviet stores at that time could present a really miserable sight.

Now there is only one question: are you a typical American?


"Survey: 1 in 5 Americans can’t afford necessary care" - medcitynews.com...


"66% of Americans fear they won’t be able to afford health care this year" - www.cnbc.com...


"According to the research, 54 percent of consumers in the U.S. (125 million U.S. adults) are living paycheck-to-paycheck, with 21 percent of this population struggling to pay their bills, meaning they have little or no money left over after spending their income.
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When it comes to demographics, the largest group living paycheck-to-paycheck is millennials (77 percent), especially bridge millennials (those 33 to 42 years old) -- with 33 percent struggling to pay their bills. This demographic has been bookended by two recessions and riddled with student debt unlike baby boomers and seniors who are least likely to be living paycheck-to-paycheck. Additionally, the research shows that having children corresponds with a greater likelihood of living paycheck-to-paycheck.

"The perception that only low-income individuals are living paycheck-to-paycheck simply is not the case today," said Anuj Nayar, Financial Health Officer at LendingClub. "Half of Americans in this country are not building a reserve or saving for retirement. They are on a treadmill daily deciding whether every dollar they make will help them live or weather a financial storm. On top of that, they are financially vulnerable, and, like we've seen for so many over the last year, if there is any disruption to their income-level, they won't have sufficient savings to absorb the hardship." - www.prnewswire.com...


"Higher college tuition costs led to higher student loans and personal debt rates for millennials. A 2020 report from Experian found that the average millennial has roughly $27,250 in debt, excluding mortgages. This can include credit card debt and installment loans, student loans, car loans, etc.
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Many millennials are still drowning in debt, with student loans being responsible for a significant portion. According to a recent survey of 1,000 millennials ages 33 to 40, respondents took out an average of $21,880 in student loans. The survey also found that 68% of older millennials are still paying down their student debt a decade or more after leaving school." - www.forbes.com... 32

originally posted by: GAOTU789

What? Your Ambassador to Ukraine signed both of them. In fact, I believe it may have been Russia that insisted on the No prosecution for individuals for their "actions" taken in Donbas.

ETA:> Yes I know Putin said they don't apply anymore right before Ukraine was invaded.

AS for the speech, good propaganda piece. Touches all the right bases to inflate national pride and vilify the other side. My hats off to whomever his "Joseph Goebbels" is. They read the playbook and are following it to a tee.

Please quote what (according to the Minsk agreements) Russia must fulfill and indicate the paragraph numbers in these agreements for these quotes.

I see that the actors are assigned there:
1) Ukraine;
2) certain areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk oblast;
3) OSCE.

a reply to: chr0naut

Everything you have provided is very interesting.

"I can't be the only one noticing Putin's response to failure in Ukraine is entirely Trumpian...1. Deny that anything has gone wrong...2. Insist that your own decisions have always been perfect...3. Whine about cancel culture...

Tough guys, both"

quote: Paul Krugman - Twitter - March 25, 2022

www.twitter.com...

Putin is increasingly growing Stalinistic by the minute. His targeting of civilians, hospitals, schools, bomb shelters and maternity wards; proves that his crazy and diabolical mindset, foretells that showing any sympathy towards Ukrainian civilians would be a sign of weakness for himself as the RU leader.

Putin doesn't even think that the Ukrainian cities are even cities anymore.

originally posted by: turretless

No one rules America, no single source is over everyone as it is in Russia.

Boy you really missed my statement. I said NO ONE group rules America. NOT no one rules...lol

We have many layers...


I lived paycheck to paycheck for a good number of years, it is called living within your means that kids today seem to not want to do. You missed another point of mine and that is choices. Russia lacks them and America has an overabundance. Overall having many choices is good, lacking choices is bad. If a person makes bad choices doesn't also mean choices, in general, are bad. A huge percentage of the Russian population has few choices in life to really worry about making good or bad ones...lol

For example, no need to make a bad choice of getting fat if you lack food in the first place...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

Boy you really missed my statement. I said NO ONE group rules America. NOT no one rules...lol

We have many layers...


I lived paycheck to paycheck for a good number of years, it is called living within your means that kids today seem to not want to do. You missed another point of mine and that is choices. Russia lacks them and America has an overabundance. Overall having many choices is good, lacking choices is bad. If a person makes bad choices doesn't also mean choices, in general, are bad. A huge percentage of the Russian population has few choices in life to really worry about making good or bad ones...lol

For example, no need to make a bad choice of getting fat if you lack food in the first place...

Perhaps you really have many layers, but why do they act in such a coordinated way?

I mean the concerted attack by the main Western media on Trump during his presidency.



I remind you that during our conversation you were describing the USSR and chose not to notice some things that existed in it.

With the help of Western newspapers, I have shown that today's Americans are mostly deprived of these things.

As I understand it, you think that all this is the fault of the younger American generations themselves.

But someone brought them up in this style. They couldn't educate themselves!

So they were brought up like that either by their parents or the state, or both together.



I'm not going to deny that Americans have an extremely wide range of choices.

I heard that even dead Americans have the ability to choose their president.

Some Americans inquired about the possibility of participating in elections after their death in their will - "'Absolute legend' Bob Dole pokes fun at Democrats one last time in farewell letter" - www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: Erno86

krugman, the wind up joke that never ends.

Meeting with Council of Lawmakers

April 27, 2022 16:45

President of Russia Vladimir Putin:
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Such unity of the people is a great value and a guarantee that Russia will be able to stand up to the most complex challenges and threats, and will confidently go through any trial. This has always been so, and so it will be now.

In this regard, I would like to emphasise again: all the goals of the special military operation launched on February 24 will definitely be attained in order to guarantee peace and security for the residents of the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics, of Russian Crimea, and our entire country in a historical perspective.

We must be aware and confident that our soldiers and officers have averted a real danger posed to our Motherland. Their courage, determination, and heroism have prevented a larger conflict that would have unfolded on our territory, but following someone else's scenarios.

The forces that have always pursued a policy of containing Russia – historically indeed, they did so in ancient times, and you know very well why they did this – they do not want such a huge and independent country that is too big for their ideas. They believe it endangers them simply by the fact of its existence. Although this is far from reality; it is they who endanger the world.

We have not forgotten the barbarous plans of the Nazis for the Soviet people – to drive them out. You remember, don’t you? They wanted to force those who could work to work like slaves, do slave labour in bondage. Those who were not wanted were supposed to be sent beyond the Urals or to the North to extinction. All this was recorded in documents, in historical documents. We remember this.

We also remember how the Western states encouraged terrorists and criminals in the North Caucasus in the early 1990s and 2000s, how they exploited the problems of our past, real problems, injustices of the past as regards entire peoples, including the peoples of the Caucasus. But they did all this not to make us better, not at all. They did all this to bring the problems of the past to us today, to encourage separatist attitudes in our country and eventually to split and destroy it. This is why they did all this. They wanted to drive us into the backwoods. Many have tried to do the same to Russia throughout all eras.

They did not reach their goal but could not accept their failure, that we managed to hold out against this onslaught at the time. This is why they later launched large-scale preparations for an economic war against Russia, using any excuse, and sometimes without any excuse at all, to impose more and more sanctions on us; but today’s plans to strangle us economically have also fallen through.

In addition, our enemies have been expediting the development of new “geopolitical weapons.” These weapons are basically nothing new, but they obviously gave them new motivation and a new impetus. They placed their bets on Russophobia and neo-Nazis and were impudently, unceremoniously turning our neighbor Ukraine into an “anti-Russia” year after year.

I would like to recall that when Russia had a benevolent, I would say, a friendly, comradely, fraternal attitude to the creation of an independent Ukrainian state, we thought, of course, that it would be a friendly state, that we could go further together, strengthening and developing each other and creating the most competitive conditions for progress – yes, in new and historical conditions. No one could imagine the creation of an “anti-Russia” on historical Russian territory. We simply cannot allow this to happen, and so it all comes down to a conflict, a direct conflict. Ukraine was pushed into direct confrontation with Russia, our country. Let me remind you that this was, unfortunately, all laid out, including an armed attack on Crimea and Donbass, in Ukraine’s doctrinal documents of today, while at the same time, the Ukrainian people were allotted the destiny of “expendable material.” I believe a large part of the Ukrainian people are coming to realise this.

The entire course of recent events, including the Kiev regime’s claims to possess nuclear weapons, the deployment of a network of Western biolabs on Ukrainian territory, the seamless supplies of cutting-edge weapons to Ukraine, has confirmed that our reaction to those cynical plans was correct and timely.
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But I would also like to note something I spoke about at the beginning of the special military operation. Let me emphasise once again: if anyone intends to intervene from the outside and create a strategic threat to Russia that is unacceptable to us, they should know that our retaliatory strikes will be lightning-fast. We have the tools we need for this, the likes of which no one else can claim at this point. We will not just brag; we will use them if necessary. And I want everyone to know this; we have made all the decisions on this matter.
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As a result, by taking the measures I have just mentioned, we have not just softened, but, as I said, we have repelled, blocked the very first crushing blow – as the West believed it to be – of the illegitimate sanctions against our country.

Our banking system, national currency, transport, trade, and the economy in general have withstood the shock and have not crumbled. On the contrary, they now have good resources for development, for the launch of new projects in infrastructure and industry, and for developing and unlocking the potential of all our regions. Undoubtedly, this is the result of a balanced and responsible socioeconomic policy over the recent years, the implementation of our national projects, and the result of your, my colleagues, concerted and energetic efforts amid today’s extraordinary circumstances.
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As I have said, we will counter any crude and often inept external restrictions, the destruction of all civilised rights and agreements and attempts to isolate us with greater freedom of entrepreneurship, openness to honest partnerships, respect and reliable protection of owners and genuine investors. All these goals require the direct involvement of the deputies at the federal and regional levels alike.
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And there is one more important task for those who work in committees on international affairs or friendship groups with their foreign counterparts. I understand that it has become impossible and also pointless to work in some associations, for example, PACE. In general, many of these formats were established in the early 1990s not to harmonise relations in Europe but to influence the post-Soviet space. We understand this. But these instruments have become obsolete. Nobody needs them anymore.
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But at this time, we need to use any accessible format or channel for parliamentary diplomacy in Europe, Asia, Africa and America, as much as we can – those that have remained. Direct contact can never hurt because we have many supporters in all global regions, I assure you, although you know this yourselves. But it is necessary to work with them to justify our position with arguments, to uphold the truth and to bring information to the people who want to know it, true information.

en.kremlin.ru...

a reply to: turretless

I posted this on another thread.



By the expressions on the audiance faces they are thinking " Putin is talking complete bollocks "

originally posted by: alldaylong

I posted this on another thread.

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

a reply to: turretless

Get a VPN so you aren't getting censored by your own government.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Get a VPN so you aren't getting censored by your own government.

Sky News is not my government.

originally posted by: turretless
Sky News is not my government.

Who said they were? Your government is IP blocking the video.

a reply to: turretless

Wonder why?

What with your country's famed devotion to freedom of speech, and all.