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I Hate...That I Can't Believe What I Hear About Ukraine.

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posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: Namor

You strike me as well-meaning and sincere. Your description of yourself almost described me, as well.
I accept the generosity of your intention to help, although, as you know, I don't understand the nature of that help due to it's cryptic nature.
That said, your perspective of the Russo/Ukraine conflict, from that of a Russian citizen...has been both refreshing and appreciated.
I'm sure I speak for many reading your posts here.

Thank you, Russian friend.
Stay safe.



posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: McGuyver2point0
This could raise and confirm the spectacle of using the maternity ward, etc. as trigger for a greater war scope.

Did you see there was picture evidence of crisis actors present at the maternity ward?

Somebody is straining so hard to get NATO involved they're likely to have a stroke.



posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

Perhaps. But not in the near future, that's for sure. Only restriction of social networks. In this case, it's because of monetization. To minimize the income of the population in all areas where it is possible. A global shutdown is not possible, since we have large territories and distances between cities. Accordingly, without rapid communication control, it will be problematic to control the entire process.
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posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: Namor
a reply to: Snarl

Perhaps. But not in the near future, that's for sure.

I hope everyone's ability to communicate can be retained.

Funny ... but, I don't think there are any simple citizens who want to be cut off from another country's simple citizens. Well, maybe dumb people want that. Mostly, though, it seems to be our leaders and journalists pushing us in that direction.

Be well. I'll be watching and reading your comments.




posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

And thank you for your kind words. Regarding my eagerness to help you, I can answer you. I don't divide people by nation, skin type. It is absolutely not important to me whether you (people) have the opportunity to help me. My task is to bring balance. Because the laws are not observed and the rules are violated. And I want to challenge that. Because I know the outcome. You know that a cell is able to live and develop only under one condition, if it divides. In this situation, not the country, but the world is going to the point that we can lose this ability. And if there is no division, there will be no you. If there is no you, then there will be no me. People should reflect and reconsider their way of life, values, path and actions. And this can be done only by demonstrating actions and not by opening a textbook and not reading to you about what is possible, what is not. Knowledge is not important without the ability to use it. That is why at the moment I am not obstructing or opposing. Because I know that this situation is temporary. But it has to be, otherwise you would just read the textbook and not go to its essence. You have the right to condemn me for this, but try to understand the meaning of what I said. I do not take any actions and do not influence what is happening, just because by helping you now, I risk the opportunity to help you at the moment when it will be really necessary.



posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

Sorry for the mistakes in the text. But I warned about them in advance in my first message, due to the fact that I do not know your language, and the text I am writing to you I have to process in an online translator for your understanding. Therefore, I initially asked you to pay attention to the meaning of what I said, and not to the letters of which it consists.



posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

No one wants to be cut off. You probably haven't read my previous posts, or haven't noticed that I wrote how much we depend on relationships. And the suspension for us has consequences that you can't even imagine.
If we are restricted in our relationships with others. We will have a coup and an internal war, the consequences of which will be incomparable to the war with Ukraine. Understand, Russian people are a patient people. But if he is driven into the framework, he will get up and go to the end. We have no fear of death. We are afraid only for our relatives and people close to us.
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posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: Namor
a reply to: Snarl

Sorry for the mistakes in the text.

No need to apologize. I've lived overseas for many many years of my adult life. I am quite used to listening to what people mean ... and greatly appreciate anyone who is trying to communicate with me in my native language.

You keep doing what you're doing. The folks on ATS are way above the 100 IQ level (at least most IMO).

There is one other poster from Russia amongst us. Works as hard as you do at being an outstanding member of this community.




posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: Namor
a reply to: IAMTAT

It is absolutely not important to me whether you (people) have the opportunity to help me. My task is to bring balance. Because the laws are not observed and the rules are violated.


Understood.
Considering that we are of like minds...and see your task as an important and noble one...how, then, may we assist you in your task?

The student may not know all that is known by his teacher...but, together, they share the same task.



posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

That's why I applied here. Because I know that those who have reason, as a rule, move away from the masses and seek solitude and a group of people who resonate with him. And I understand that your ability to think and reason will not give you the opportunity to pass by. And I can have a chance to be heard by those I'm trying to help. And the opportunity to convey this to those who are not available to me.



posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

You just said what I wanted to hear, but I couldn't ask you directly, or manipulate you and push you into these actions. The level of awareness and freedom in your mind is important to me. At this moment, you can, or rather should, understand what your reality may be in the future, if not only you, but also your friend, relative or passerby does not realize where we are going. Explain the chain in which our countries have the same links. And there is no concept - a separate country. There is a concept - the world. And at the moment when another country needs your support, provide it. Don't do it on behalf of America. Do it on your own behalf and on behalf of those who are with you. This will mean for those who think badly of your country that good people live there who do not deserve evil. And if there comes a moment when people will be told that America/Russia/China is against them, these people will think about these words differently, because in their memory there will be those who did not wish them harm. And this will be a doubt for them and a confrontation with the information that they will try to impose on them. Get in touch with other people from different countries as much as possible, this will give you and them an understanding that you are the same as them. But do not be zealous, so that it does not look imposed and deliberate. Because it can have the opposite effect. We talk about each other as Russia and America. You need to make sure that you talk about each other as a person. Start with this situation. Don't say that you feel sorry for Ukraine, say that you feel sorry for the people who live there. Do not say that Russia will suffer badly, say that you are sorry that there are those in Russia who do badly. So people will understand that you do not see the picture from the general mass, but try to delve into it. And you do not act as an accuser towards those who are not to blame, giving them a chance to understand and to see you as who you are, I am not who your government is trying to show you. It's a lot of work. But there is still time for this. And at the moment when people stop trying to see the big picture and learn to understand its details, I will provide a detail that will help to understand and realize the big picture.
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posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: Namor

Individualism and creativity will never be crushed by collectivism and globalism.

They're the inner sanctum of the human spirit.
They genuinely define who WE are...in every sense of the word 'we'...in any language...from any human lips.

They may attempt to commandeer our minds and our bodies...but our spirit can never be taken from us.
It's neither ours to give away, nor theirs to take.
It remains...even when all else has been taken away.

Four million years of human existence continue to stand as testament.

You've spoken to this regarding the Russian people...whom are no different in this respect than are any people.
We live only for those we love; those in whom we invest our spirit so that they may both live on.

How fortunate we are all to be present to witness a great awakening to this simplest and most quintessential awareness of true self...as we get to watch it being elegantly scrawled out before us upon the great, black, board that is currently this chaotic world.

Do I seem optimistic?
I am.



It's a lot of work. But there is still time for this. And at the moment when people stop trying to see the big picture and learn to understand its details, I will provide a detail that will help to understand and realize the big picture.


Seeing 'The Big Picture' is to finally reveal the true devil...and we know that, not only is he traditionally found in the details...but he's never the devil we thought we knew.

Bring out your details, tovarishch.
Many will be taking notes.



posted on Mar, 13 2022 @ 11:06 PM
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That is the thing about this situation, you don't have to believe everything. Even if only 10% of what is happening to Ukraine isn't manufactured crisis by the media, Russia invaded another country and people are dying. Those millions of refugees we see being forced out of Ukraine are not crisis actors, they're real people who have been displaced and regardless of the facts being reported by the MSM, that's real.

Make no mistake, Russia is in the wrong here. There are so many facets of this situation that are not fake or exaggerated, parts that can be seen with your own eyes.



posted on Mar, 14 2022 @ 06:45 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Watching RT vs watching American propaganda is insane. It's like watching two entirely seperate conflicts. On RT you get Azov Battalion and Ukrainians shelling their own cities behind them as they retreat. On CNN you get Russians shelling apartment complexes and running tanks over civilians.

Almost impossible to suss out the truth for anyone not there.



posted on Mar, 14 2022 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: face23785
Did liberal media's tendency to constantly claim right-wing politicians in the US and European countries are neo-Nazis give Putin a plausible excuse? I mean right now the liberal media is bending over backwards to talk about how absurd it is to say there are Nazis in Ukraine, which is contrary to prior narratives they themselves have pushed about right-wing politicians in eastern Europe.


For sure, those witch-hunts have demoralized the West and made it easier for Putin to justify his attack. And I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that Russian assets have been used to fund Antifa and similar organizations.



posted on Mar, 14 2022 @ 07:10 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

You seem like the kind of person who would like to change something. And that's good. Most importantly, you should understand that I am not trying to develop you spiritually and explain the important role in this. You are doing it perfectly by yourself, without me. I want you to understand how important your action is. And further, I will be talking to you here based on the stages that will occur. To give you the opportunity to realize the action. So that you can see and understand what I'm talking about. This will help us to overcome the relationship barrier. After that, you will realize the importance of your actions and see a real opportunity to influence something. After all, at the moment your compassion and desire for good only changes what is around you at arm's length. A little later you will get the opportunity to do it where you are not.



posted on Mar, 14 2022 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: JFBlair
a reply to: IAMTAT

Almost impossible to suss out the truth for anyone not there.


You're right. That is why, even if you wish, you cannot influence it. Until the moment when you are not involved yourself. Now you are simply being prepared for this.



posted on Mar, 14 2022 @ 07:30 AM
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posted on Mar, 14 2022 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: Namor
a reply to: IAMTAT

You seem like the kind of person who would like to change something. And that's good. Most importantly, you should understand that I am not trying to develop you spiritually and explain the important role in this. You are doing it perfectly by yourself, without me.


I'm glad to hear you're not attempting to develop anyone spiritually.
That's a good thing.

We get messiahs, alien star brothers, time travelers, LARPers, book/website shills, trolls and government assets on a regular basis here on ATS...and they are all quickly sleuthed out and sent packing.

The post directly above this one is a case in point.

Exposing them is a well-honed, fine art here...especially by long time members, who have seen them all.

Welcome to ATS, Namor...and thank you for sharing what you are able.
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posted on Mar, 14 2022 @ 11:30 AM
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