Pro-Covid Vaccine Youtuber Doctor John Cambell Wants To Know Why The Media Is Silent On Ivermectin

originally posted by: Xtrozero

Well if anyone is using the full dose of horse paste thinking it is the same for humans without spending 30 seconds and looking it up, they deserve what they get.

LOL agreed! That's the whole reason I brought it up. A small percentage of morons are self-dosing which doesn't help how the media are portraying the drug. That's what I meant in my OP, and I figured that context was clear enough.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

You're so worried about hypothetical horse paste stories which are bs, and not so much about the DMED data or ant of the data showing the mrna drugs are causing a sh# load of side effects and deaths.

Well it seems as with the horse paste the DMED data was incorrect too as I posted here I think yesterday. Seems everyone likes to scandalized something or other.

You know that's not true.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

You know that's not true.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I guess if you posted it then its 100% true...lol

I actually posted this to you in another thread that you never replied to, so here let me try again...

I just read the OPs post....lol selective...

There is a lot in play here. Never before in the case of any other drug has EVERYONE been monitored and recorded of anything at all after the vaccination, so this is all new ground for us. I will wait for the dust to settle to see the results once they can be analyzed. Things like DMED and VAERs is just data collection and though I understand with people like you that is all you need if it fits your view, but there is no validity to it yet if ever of the vast majority of what is in there.

Take your numbers above all doom porn like. I'm sure you will not believe me, but here goes...

After those crazy numbers came out and it was investigated by officials who compared numbers in the DMED with source data in the DMSS they found that the total number of medical diagnoses from 2016 to 2020 represented only a small fraction of actual medical diagnoses. What this means was the DMED was incorrect and way under reported and is being updated using DMSS to be corrected.

As I said above with the level of crazy reporting starting with the vaccines, the 2021 numbers were up-to-date, giving the "appearance of significant increased occurrence of all medical diagnoses in 2021 because of the underreported data for 2016-2020." That is why every medical area in DMED had this wide swing when comparing 2021 to previous averages. In the end there is no uptick in all the areas you listed, though if you Google it there is 100 pages of saying the same damn thing you posted over and over...lol

I'm sure you will disagree and that is fine, but basically you are suggesting the vaccine has increased EVERY medical issue in DMED by 300x to 1000x..EVERY medical issue.... or DMED data was incorrect...

So did the vaccine cause every medical condition to increase?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

You know that's not true.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I guess if you posted it hen its 100% true...lol

I actually posted this to you in another thread that you never replied to, so here let me try again...

I just read the OPs post....lol selective...

There is a lot in play here. Never before in the case of any other drug has EVERYONE been monitored and recorded of anything at all after the vaccination, so this is all new ground for us. I will wait for the dust to settle to see the results once they can be analyzed. Things like DMED and VAERs is just data collection and though I understand with people like you that is all you need if it fits your view, but there is no validity to it yet if ever of the vast majority of what is in there.

Take your numbers above all doom porn like. I'm sure you will not believe me, but here goes...

After those crazy numbers came out and it was investigated by officials who compared numbers in the DMED with source data in the DMSS they found that the total number of medical diagnoses from 2016 to 2020 represented only a small fraction of actual medical diagnoses. What this means was the DMED was incorrect and way under reported and is being updated using DMSS to be corrected.

As I said above with the level of crazy reporting starting with the vaccines, the 2021 numbers were up-to-date, giving the "appearance of significant increased occurrence of all medical diagnoses in 2021 because of the underreported data for 2016-2020." That is why every medical area in DMED had this wide swing when comparing 2021 to previous averages. In the end there is no uptick in all the areas you listed, though if you Google it there is 100 pages of saying the same damn thing you posted over and over...lol

I'm sure you will disagree and that is fine, but basically you are suggesting the vaccine has increased EVERY medical issue in DMED by 300x to 1000x..EVERY medical issue.... or DMED data was incorrect...

Yes, it was a good attempt but the fact that adverse events in the DMED database increase 10x from 2020 to 2021 and previous years isn't something you can explain.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

Yes, it was a good attempt but the fact that adverse events in the DMED database increase 10x from 2020 to 2021 and previous years isn't something you can explain.

You do know we are on the same side, right? The difference between us is you accept anything instantly that fits your narrative without really looking into it. You also are unwilling to see both sides and pick and choose what is right or wrong in all this.

So in this case either the vaccine has increased every medical condition in DMED by 300 to 1000 percent, or there was something wrong with the reporting. When they went back and cross referenced the DMED data with Defense Medical Surveillance System (DMSS) it didn't match and was greatly under reported in DMED. Due to the change in massive reporting in 2021 this error was not there anymore.

So are you really going to stand on your point that the vaccine has increased every medical condition by 300 to 1000 present? Does that even seem logical in anyway?

Also what caused the increase from 2020 to 2021? The vaccine was not available in 2020, and not mandated until Sept 2021 for the military, so I'm confused as to what you are asking with 2020 to 2021? With that in mind DMED should not have seen the 300 to 1000 uptick until late in the year of 2021 if it wasn't a reporting glitch.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

Yes, it was a good attempt but the fact that adverse events in the DMED database increase 10x from 2020 to 2021 and previous years isn't something you can explain.

You do know we are on the same side, right? The difference between us is you accept anything instantly that fits your narrative without really looking into it. You also are unwilling to see both sides and pick and choose what is right or wrong in all this.

So in this case either the vaccine has increased every medical condition in DMED by 300 to 1000 percent, or there was something wrong with the reporting. When they went back and cross referenced the DMED data with Defense Medical Surveillance System (DMSS) it didn't match and was greatly under reported in DMED. Due to the change in massive reporting in 2021 this error was not there anymore.

So are you really going to stand on your point that the vaccine has increased every medical condition by 300 to 1000 present? Does that even seem logical in anyway?

Also what caused the increase from 2020 to 2021? The vaccine was not available in 2020, and not mandated until Sept 2021 for the military, so I'm confused as to what you are asking with 2020 to 2021? With that in mind DMED should not have seen the 300 to 1000 uptick until late in the year of 2021 if it wasn't a reporting glitch.

It wasn't a reporting glitch. There is already an ongoing lawsuit, clearly you haven't looked into this enough. The increase occurred in 2021. And I doubt we are on the same side.

Can you point to an actual case of overdosing? im curious to see that. thanks!

a reply to: joejack1949

originally posted by: St Udio

the Media was instructed to kill the knowledge of the drug that kills internal 'parasites... and to infer that the reason was the drug that kills parasites was all money oriented, 'Jabs @ $40 a pop, paid by govt' to vaxxine producers

the real connection with ivermectin & COVID is that the cadre of mega-pharma plotters did not want a effective parasite killer drug, destroying the effects of the vaxxine in building a proprietary-parasite in the voluntary vaccine taker...


--out of sight out of mind-- was the tactic agreed upon by the covid-vaxxine Cult of Eugenics' hiding in the mega-pharma industry

Of course, if big pharma was colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, then they would have promoted every, and all treatments and vaccines, not rule some as ineffective, and some as effective.

Because it is possible to promote and get sales of vaccines, ivermectin, and other treatments, all at the same time, which can all be taken simultaneously to each other.

This is the major logical flaw of the pro-'magic cure' conspiracy theorists - their ideas are rationally absurd.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: St Udio

the Media was instructed to kill the knowledge of the drug that kills internal 'parasites... and to infer that the reason was the drug that kills parasites was all money oriented, 'Jabs @ $40 a pop, paid by govt' to vaxxine producers

the real connection with ivermectin & COVID is that the cadre of mega-pharma plotters did not want a effective parasite killer drug, destroying the effects of the vaxxine in building a proprietary-parasite in the voluntary vaccine taker...


--out of sight out of mind-- was the tactic agreed upon by the covid-vaxxine Cult of Eugenics' hiding in the mega-pharma industry

Of course, if big pharma was colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, then they would have promoted every, and all treatments and vaccines, not rule some as ineffective, and some as effective.

Because it is possible to promote and get sales of vaccines, ivermectin, and other treatments, all at the same time, which can all be taken simultaneously to each other.

This is the major logical flaw of the pro-'magic cure' conspiracy theorists - their ideas are rationally absurd.

The narrative is collapsing right now. Fauci is gone, Pfizer is being delisted from the NY stock exchange, a FOIA request showed the gov gave the media a billion to shill the vaccines. What are you gonna do, witness protection?

originally posted by: chr0naut

Of course, if big pharma was colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, then they would have promoted every, and all treatments and vaccines, not rule some as ineffective, and some as effective.

Because it is possible to promote and get sales of vaccines, ivermectin, and other treatments, all at the same time, which can all be taken simultaneously to each other.

This is the major logical flaw of the pro-'magic cure' conspiracy theorists - their ideas are rationally absurd.

No matter if ivermectin works well or not if big pharma knew it did they would have repackaged and most likely renamed it as a COVID drug and sold it just like everything else.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: chr0naut

Of course, if big pharma was colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, then they would have promoted every, and all treatments and vaccines, not rule some as ineffective, and some as effective.

Because it is possible to promote and get sales of vaccines, ivermectin, and other treatments, all at the same time, which can all be taken simultaneously to each other.

This is the major logical flaw of the pro-'magic cure' conspiracy theorists - their ideas are rationally absurd.

No matter if ivermectin works well or not if big pharma knew it did they would have repackaged and most likely renamed it as a COVID drug and sold it just like everything else.

Actually no, because it's off patent and they could no profit on it. This has been covered numerous times.

I actually caught the Covid back in January and after a useless trip to the Doctor to try to get a therapeutic I decided to give the horse paste a shot.

The tube I bought according to the instructions was designed to meter out a dose by weight of the animal being treated. So I took a dose for a 250lb animal and I literally started to feel better about 10 minutes after I took it. And I did take the rest of the tube at 250lb doses until it was empty.

It also took like 2 to 3 weeks for the sick feelings from the Covid to go away. But they did and now I'm back to my old self.

So yes the horse paste works. But dose by weight.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

Actually no, because it's off patent and they could no profit on it. This has been covered numerous times.

They can easily reformulate it into a new patent, very easy thing to do....

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: St Udio

the Media was instructed to kill the knowledge of the drug that kills internal 'parasites... and to infer that the reason was the drug that kills parasites was all money oriented, 'Jabs @ $40 a pop, paid by govt' to vaxxine producers

the real connection with ivermectin & COVID is that the cadre of mega-pharma plotters did not want a effective parasite killer drug, destroying the effects of the vaxxine in building a proprietary-parasite in the voluntary vaccine taker...


--out of sight out of mind-- was the tactic agreed upon by the covid-vaxxine Cult of Eugenics' hiding in the mega-pharma industry

Of course, if big pharma was colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, then they would have promoted every, and all treatments and vaccines, not rule some as ineffective, and some as effective.

Because it is possible to promote and get sales of vaccines, ivermectin, and other treatments, all at the same time, which can all be taken simultaneously to each other.

This is the major logical flaw of the pro-'magic cure' conspiracy theorists - their ideas are rationally absurd.

The narrative is collapsing right now. Fauci is gone, Pfizer is being delisted from the NY stock exchange, a FOIA request showed the gov gave the media a billion to shill the vaccines. What are you gonna do, witness protection?

Fauci is still there in his roles as Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and Chief Medical Advisor to the President.

Pfizer has not been delisted from the NYSE.

And, well, yeah, part of ensuring that people get vaccinated is telling them about the vaccinations, which the government did - nothing shocking there...

So, I'll probably laugh at your gullibility, and make referential links to your silly post a bit.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

The narrative is collapsing right now. Fauci is gone, Pfizer is being delisted from the NY stock exchange, a FOIA request showed the gov gave the media a billion to shill the vaccines. What are you gonna do, witness protection?

You have a skewed way of looking at things sometimes. I'm extremely happy if Fauci is gone though I think he is still there. He was nothing but a shill that cost America Trillions that was not needed to do. The whole mandates are a crime in themselves...

Pfizer being removed from the S&P Dow Jones Indices, (not from the NYSE) as many other well known companies have been added or removed, has nothing to do with their vaccine, but is how the DOW is run. Pfizer is hanging in there close to 50 bucks a share.

S&P Dow Jones Indices, which manages the Dow Jones Industrial Average, announced a reshuffling of the index Monday night, set to take effect next week. The company is dropping three firms from the index, including Pfizer (ticker: PFE). Pfizer is being replaced by the biotech company Amgen (AMGN).

In a statement, S&P Dow Jones Indices attributed the changes to the index to Apple’s (APPL) decision to split its stock, which necessitated a reweighting, and said the changes will “diversify the index.” The move will leave Merck (MRK) and Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) as the only big pharma firms in the Dow. Amgen will be the only biotech firm in the index.

Pfizer has undoubtedly had a rocky go of it over the past few years. It was among the Dow’s worst performers in 2019, after investors reacted poorly to the company’s announcement in late July that it would spin off its generic drug unit, which will merge with the generic drugmaker Mylan (MYL). Investors have been chiefly concerned about a flurry of patent expirations coming up for Pfizer in 2026, when the company is set to lose exclusive rights to five major drugs over the course of just three years.

Did you know that the TTS and Guillain-Barré Syndrome are actually linked to J&J’s COVID Vaccine and myocarditis is linked to both the Pfizer and the Moderna COVID-19 vaccinations? So I'm not sure why only Pfizer seems to be your bogyman.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: chr0naut

Of course, if big pharma was colluding with the medical industry to maximize profits, then they would have promoted every, and all treatments and vaccines, not rule some as ineffective, and some as effective.

Because it is possible to promote and get sales of vaccines, ivermectin, and other treatments, all at the same time, which can all be taken simultaneously to each other.

This is the major logical flaw of the pro-'magic cure' conspiracy theorists - their ideas are rationally absurd.

No matter if ivermectin works well or not if big pharma knew it did they would have repackaged and most likely renamed it as a COVID drug and sold it just like everything else.

But they didn't.

Merck, who owned the ivermectin patent until recently, and currently market and sell 'human-use' ivermectin (Stromectol), and was also in the best position to 're-package' their product as a COVID-19 treatment, has also said that it isn't to be used for the treatment of COVID-19.

And yet Merck are working on other, unreleased, and unapproved, COVID-19 therapeutics. Why would they do that if they already have a product that works, and are driven purely by profit?

The 'withheld cure' conspiracy theories are just not rational.

a reply to: daboxfan

Here's a journal article that discusses the 21 cases in Oregan from Aug. 2021:
www.nejm.org...

Six of the 21 persons were hospitalized for toxic effects from ivermectin use; all 6 reported preventive use, including the 3 who had obtained the drug by prescription. Four received care in an intensive care unit, and none died. Symptoms were gastrointestinal distress in 4 persons, confusion in 3, ataxia and weakness in 2, hypotension in 2, and seizures in 1. Of the persons who were not admitted to a hospital, most had gastrointestinal distress, dizziness, confusion, vision symptoms, or rash.

originally posted by: chr0naut

The 'withheld cure' conspiracy theories are just not rational.

Last year I posted a number of times that there was a lack of large scale double blind studies, and it wasn't until towards the end of last year that these started to finish up and data was able to be examined. Many of the early "studies" have been removed due to faulty procedures. Looking now as to what is being seen around the world as to whether ivermectin works or not we are seeing it doesn't do much as what has been suggested in the past.

For the study, Malaysian researchers enrolled 490 patients with mild to moderate illness at 20 hospitals and a COVID-19 quarantine center in Malaysia. The study took place from May 31 to October 25, 2021.

All patients received standard care, but half the patients were treated with ivermectin for five days.

According to the study, 21.6% of the patients given ivermectin developed a severe illness compared to 17.3% of those who received only standard care and also developed a severe illness, the researchers said.

Severe illness was defined as patients who needed supplemental oxygen.

The so called study from the OP is not a study, but a data gathering event. This below is not what is called a scientific method, and so confounding and biasness are the hardest things to prevent. Even perfectly run studies can have them. When a study is just data collection there is no way to prevent getting results as to what your biases want. It is so easy to unknowingly skew results in your favor that in collage we studied dozen of real double blind studies that ended in false conclusions. I have always said I hope ivermectin does what some suggest, but how drugs work it is 1 in a million for a drug to just happen to do something else well as to what it was originally made for. With that said, if people want to take it for 5 days I see no issues with that, but I hope they are not seriously disappointed.

The new study which covers thousands of individuals was taken from 44 healthcare organizations and 68 million patients in the US. The study controlled for comorbidities, obesity, race, ethnicity, age, nicotine use, and other important factors.

a reply to: ntech

One of the dangers of taking animal medicine is that animal drugs have vastly lower quality requirements. Human drugs are tested for imperfections from the manufacturing process (lead, arsenic, mercury, beryllium, cyanide, cadmium, etc.). Animal drugs aren't required to reduce such imperfections because animals don't live long enough for the adverse events to present.