Ukraine against its own citizens

Hello ATS!

Yesterday, I started a thread Ukraine recruits terrorists to carry out terrorist attacks in Russia that got a lot of responses. Firstly, I am grateful to my friends on the forum for the good words about me, but I do not understand your attitude towards my country and my president. It sincerely amazes me how it is possible to simultaneously be a humanist and shed "crocodile tears" about the deaths of people in Ukraine, and for 8 years not notice the deaths of tens of thousands of people, old people, women, children in Donbass? How can you be a humanist and at the same time wish for death and call for the killing of Russian people and President Putin. You know, I have never offended the Europeans and Americans, as well as their leaders, on the forum, and even more so I did not wish them death. The cognitive dissonance.

Now on the subject of thread. How Ukraine is setting up its citizens. The network has a huge number of videos and photos taken by Ukrainians themselves, in which tanks, artillery, multiple rocket launchers are placed by the army in the courtyards of multi-storey residential buildings in Ukrainian cities, and firing points of snipers and grenade launchers are on the first floors of residential buildings. Is this done to protect the public? No, this is done in order to cause the Russian army to return fire on residential buildings, and then get a beautiful media picture about the "atrocities of Russian soldiers." Ordinary citizens are simply being sacrificed. What is this if not Nazism?

Yesterday Russia announced a day of silence and the creation of humanitarian corridors for the exit of the population from the besieged Mariupol and Volnovakha. The silence regime was announced from 10-00 in the morning. At 10.08 artillery fire from Mariupol was opened on Russian positions, and from 10.11 to 10.21 continuous fire was fired from Volnovakha. A huge number of people gathered in Mariupol who wanted to leave the city along the humanitarian corridor. But none of the people were released. Miraculously, only a few families were able to escape - 17 people who said that in the city the Nazi battalions herded people into the basements of houses, schools, kindergartens, and then mined these objects. many people were driven to the territory of the largest metallurgical plant "Azov Steel", where they mined workshops, open-hearth and dolmen furnaces. The residents were held hostage.
Residents have been reporting for 5 days about a multi-apartment residential building, where the Nazis from the Azov regiment herded 200 people into the basement and mined the building. Yesterday at 10-39 this residential building was blown up. In the cellars under the rubble are 200 people, Strakov, women, children. No one saves them, their fate is unknown.
And so throughout Ukraine.

2 days ago, President Zelensky announced that Russian troops allegedly set fire to the reactors of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant and a nuclear apocalypse awaits all of Europe. In fact, Russian troops took control of the nuclear power plant 5 days ago and ensured the safety and operation of the nuclear power plant. At night, fire was opened on the Russian patrol from the administrative building of the station, and then this administrative building was set on fire with Molotov cocktails, a fire broke out. The Russians quickly put out the fire, but the video and photos from the "burning" nuclear power plant "have already bypassed the Western media.
At the beginning of the military operation, in order to avoid provocations, Russian troops took control of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The Russians, along with Ukrainian guards from the National Guard, jointly patrolled and secured the station. But Zelensky again announced that supposedly Russian missiles hit the building with the reactor.
It is characteristic that just a few weeks ago, a similar scenario with the arson of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was discussed in Ukrainian social networks.

Ukrainian social networks give detailed instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails and use them against Russians. Throughout Ukraine, these devices began to be manufactured and used against the Russian army. Imagine what a NATO soldier would do if civilians used a Molotov cocktail against him. They would just destroy everyone. But the Ukrainian authorities are not interested in this - the more victims, the better.

For example, here is a video in which a girl from inside a car throws a Molotov cocktail at Russian armored vehicles. The video must be watched when going to YouTube.



The armored vehicle was not damaged, it did not even stop. But the girl's hand caught fire and she received severe burns. And who needs it now? Her identity was established, she recently married. And now a disabled person with a burnt hand, and a criminal case has been initiated against her, she will be in prison for a long time. The question is, what would NATO soldiers do if a "Molotov cocktail" was thrown into their armored car? They would probably destroy the car instantly.

And here is a video from Kherson. The mayor of the city ordered ordinary civilians to make "Molotov cocktails" and throw them at a Russian military column. In the city park, past which the column was supposed to move, bottles were placed under each tree. Russian troops simply shot the park with machine guns and cannons. Look at the result. The video contains shock content, so user consent is required to view



Under the video there are thousands of comments with gratitude, because this video will save thousands of people from death.

In the meantime, you, people in the West, are being shown tens of thousands of fakes, on which the letter "Z" is applied to Ukrainian tanks in Photoshop, houses, hospitals, schools in Donetsk and Gorlovka destroyed by artillery are passed off as Ukrainian, videos of "downed" Russian aircraft are used in videos -games, simulators, footage of all wars, starting with the Vietnamese, are issued as footage in Ukraine. To date, the Safe Internet League has identified 500,000 fakes about the military operation in Ukraine. Do you want examples? Okay.



Here is a video posted on Twitter by the Israeli channel Channel 13 News. It is said that the video shows a downed Russian fighter jet. In reality, this is a fragment of an amateur video of the Polish Star Wars Artistic Team, published in 2014.

Or, a BBC report claims that the "Ukrainian city of Tarkov" is heroically resisting "Russian aggression." But there is no such city in nature. This is a mythical city from the computer game Escape from Tarkov.

And there are 500,000 such fakes. You ask, how much money is this done with? I will show you a very funny video filmed in the outskirts of Kyiv by Chechen battalion fighters who occupied a certain warehouse. Imagine the amazement of the Chechens)))

Video

Pay attention to the box labels.

I want to once again appeal to the forum members who accuse me of propaganda. I don't create fakes. In general, Russians do not need fakes, we show the truth, and it is always stronger than fakes. Don't fall for propaganda.

Thanks.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Our attitude towards your man Putin and Russia is plain as day mate.

The man invaded Ukraine, and that makes your nation the aggressor hence in the wrong.

No flowers or parades for those 3rd rate troops just bullets and petrol bombs in spades.

And anyone willing to report the truth to your own people regarding your ""special military action"" in the Ukraine aka illegal invasion faces 15 years in a gulag or gaol.

What a predicament!

Most of you videos are blocked. I don´t understand there should have been cease fire in Mariupol yesterday so people could be evacuated which should have lasted 5 hours but 5 hours for Russian government is only 30 minutes.

Today´s tweets from WHO

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
@DrTedros
·
4t
.@WHO
has confirmed several attacks on health care in #Ukraine, causing multiple deaths and injuries. Additional reports are being investigated. Attacks on healthcare facilities or workers breach medical neutrality and are violations of international humanitarian law. #NotATarget

World Health Organization (WHO)@WHOAs of today, WHO has published 6 verified reports of attacks on health care in #Ukraine. More reports are being verified.

WHO strongly condemns these attacks that caused 6 deaths & 11 injuries.

Health facilities, staff & patients are #NotATarget.
💥 https://(link tracking not allowed)/3sIHSiL

WHO tweet link

Did you knew ?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Russians do not need fakes, we show the truth, and it is always stronger than fakes. Don't fall for propaganda.

Putin doesn't have a history of showing or telling the truth regardless of whether or not Ukrainian's do the same. Unfortunately, that reflects on the people of Russia whether any of you are responsible for propaganda or not.

We have reached a point in this world where NO government can be trusted and the old saying that "nothing is fair about war" will always exist and hold itself to be true. War is a dirty game. People are going to die no matter what anyone's intentions are.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Many of us have been following the events since 2014 and understand completely.

Hopefully, after this, people will wake up to who there real enemies are.

Russia, Russia, Russia has been going on since the end of WW2. The West needed a boogey man. Although much of what we knew about the USSR was correct.

The Russian Federation is not communist and for some reason, some can't see the change that occurred.

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a reply to: RussianTroll

Or, a BBC report claims that the "Ukrainian city of Tarkov" is heroically resisting "Russian aggression." But there is no such city in nature. This is a mythical city from the computer game Escape from Tarkov.

Not really disagreeing. But do you have a link to the actual report. I found this?


9gag.com...

Not exactly a anchor piece, not unreasonable to dismiss a typo.

And there area actual companies with the name Tarkov.

www.info-clipper.com...

And this is interesting

'Escape From Tarkov' Economy Is Tanking Due To Sanctions On Russia

www.gamingbible.co.uk...

Stupid mistake or confusion. Probably. Conspiracy, only one of idiots that can’t type..

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Firstly, I am grateful to my friends on the forum for the good words about me, but I do not understand your attitude towards my country and my president.

Here's how I look at Putin: He's arguably the richest individual person on the face of the planet. He's virtually The King of Russia if you step back and take a hard look. That said ... he's never done a damned thing to me. It's Biden raising the price of a gallon of gas through the roof. And your country? Never met a Russian I didn't like. Admittedly, I never broke any bread with any of your criminal elements, but I've tried to avoid those encounter in any of the numerous countries through which I've travelled (Spain stands out in my mind as the worst developed country to avoid criminals in).

... this is done in order to cause the Russian army to return fire on residential buildings, and then get a beautiful media picture about the "atrocities of Russian soldiers."

I spoke to that in the last thread I replied in. The events you describe ... and the way they are covered by the Fake News Media ... and the gullible people who swallow it hook-line-and-sinker just leave me shaking my head.

A huge number of people gathered in Mariupol who wanted to leave the city along the humanitarian corridor. But none of the people were released.

Did President Zelensky not say that males of fighting age fleeing The Ukraine would be shot? Not much of a step-up to martyring women and children for the Public Relations effort.

a reply to: RussianTroll
The media here stinks to high heaven.Like the coronavirus rubbish we are only allowed to listen to the government lies,same playbook by the same people.
I have to laugh at the mindless unquestioning government followers here,the same people who loved the coronavirus restrictions on liberty and are on the third of fourth injection.
For all the so called videos of Ukraine I wonder where are the videos of Ukrainian army fighting Russians?
I have saw none.
We are meant to believe how brave they and they people are,yet have no video in this day of everyone having a phone in their pocket.
These idiots cheering on Ukraine really are cheering on a war wanted by their western politicians, desperate to hide their misdeeds.
Get white people killing white people and then replace them with middle easterners and sub Saharan Africans.
UN migration pact in all its true glory.
Thanks for posting a different side,for reasons the sheep don't see our government don't think we are smart enough to make up our own minds.

a reply to: RussianTroll



I asked in the other thread and did not get a response.

What do you make of this rag tag band of Russian ruffians?

Where are the flower garlands around their necks dirty robbing bastards that they appear to be?

a reply to: pheonix358

Hopefully, after this, people will wake up to who there real enemies are.

The real enemies are anyone from the USA to Russia that use innocent civilians as canon fodder. Many in the USA are tired of being manipulated by the elite and we had our Vietnam and Afghanistan. And we are tired of war. Putin is setting Russian on a road to satisfy his appetite for power with the blood of innocence people before honestly pursuing peaceful means. Putin is setting up Russia for their new Afghanistan.

a reply to: neutronflux

The Ukraine may well turn out to be Putin's Northern Ireland on steroids.

Good luck with that kind of scenario, coz it does not bode well for ether side.



The above is the kind of thing you end up with where the young girls are making petrol bombs during the Battle of the Bogside, Ireland, 1969.

originally posted by: dollukka
Most of you videos are blocked. I don´t understand there should have been cease fire in Mariupol yesterday so people could be evacuated which should have lasted 5 hours but 5 hours for Russian government is only 30 minutes.

Today´s tweets from WHO

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
@DrTedros
·
4t
.@WHO
has confirmed several attacks on health care in #Ukraine, causing multiple deaths and injuries. Additional reports are being investigated. Attacks on healthcare facilities or workers breach medical neutrality and are violations of international humanitarian law. #NotATarget

World Health Organization (WHO)@WHOAs of today, WHO has published 6 verified reports of attacks on health care in #Ukraine. More reports are being verified.

WHO strongly condemns these attacks that caused 6 deaths & 11 injuries.

Health facilities, staff & patients are #NotATarget.
💥 https://(link tracking not allowed)/3sIHSiL

WHO tweet link

Did you knew ?

The same WHO who lied and lied and encouragrd governments to lock up citizens who commited no crime?
The same WHO who recommended a untested gene therapy to be injected into everyone?
Zero credibility now or then
You swallow all their info over the last two years too didn't you?
Does once bitten twice shy mean nothing to you?

Russia threatens the whole world with nukes if they disturb him while he is busy invading is just proving what a madman he is.

Putin wants to bring back the Soviet Union is also crazy, that would be like if Denmark invaded Norway.. because Norway was part of Denmark once.

Vladimir Putin passes law that may keep him in office until 2036

I think the Russian people live in fear, and do not dare to speak their mind. Russia have become the new North Korea.

a reply to: dollukka

Tedros the Ethiopian terrorist is your source,ha ha ha.
Excuse me while I change my pissed underpants.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Where are the flower garlands around there necks dirty robbing bastards that they appear to be?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why should the Russians leave anything behind for 'their enemies'? When you're in somebody's country to kick their ass ... you go in there and kick their ass. These guys aren't in there wrecking the place. They're in there 'shopping'.

What do you think of these people?Most of the best clips get scrubbed straight-off of YouTube, but you know where I'm going with this one ... something about throwing stones and glass houses.

a reply to: Snarl

I dont think its very funny Snarl.

But i fecking hate Louis Vuitton.

Looting is wrong no matter where it takes place, a military force doing so is however somewhat of a different kettle of fish to contend with.

As to what the Russians are getting up to, well according to Putin they are not there to invade and its all just a ""special military operation"".

Guess this "special military operation"" involves theft of private property and monies from the Ukrainian public?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

I asked in the other thread and did not get a response.

What do you make of this rag tag band of Russian ruffians?

Where are the flower garlands around their necks dirty robbing bastards that they appear to be?

Oh please that video proves nothing.You actually believe they left fatigues and a Russian hat at the scene?
Just like the unburnt passports in 9/11.
This is pure fake propaganda but blind like you can never see.
Keep posting this,it shows what a troll who lacks in braincells you are.
Maybe all those mRNA gene therapy shots have lowered your intelligence,maybe something to think about.

a reply to: glen200376

Aye a complete deep fake. LoL

As to your personal attack, that simply shows what you are.

Anyhoo try and stay on topic little bit.

Your not in the mud pit, probably best to keep you misplaced nasty opinions regarding other members to yourself.

Have a nice day.

a reply to: RussianTroll

If this is all about protecting civilians in the Luhansk and Donetsk breakaway states why did Putin decide to launch a full attack on Ukraine when his "peacekeeping mission" in those states had some cover of legitimacy ?

It was clear from the outset given Russia's troop deployments that the intention was a full invasion of Ukraine and the move into Luhansk and Donetsk was just the start of that plan.

At the beginning of the military operation, in order to avoid provocations, Russian troops took control of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.

I think it more likely the taking of Chernobyl was to secure the route for Russian troops to enter from Belarus for their move on Kyiv not to avoid "provocations".

Putin overestimated the effectiveness of his military and underestimated the response from the Ukrainian military , the Ukrainian people and the International community , we now face the prospect of Nuclear conflict due to Putin's misjudged attack .... worth it ?

I don't think so , what a sad start to 2022.