Ukraine recruits terrorists to carry out terrorist attacks in Russia

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

People don't die from drugs in Russia?

Your nation has a drug problem same as the rest of the civilised nations that comprise the world.

And that's a fact.

People are dying from drugs everywhere. In Russia, they are dying from the Afghan drug cartels that control the CIA. We know this and do not entertain ourselves with illusions. And what about the Americans?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Shame the people of the Ukraine doing find it so funny eh?

Still waiting on your videos showing Putin's flowers or Russian troops handing out aid.

Where are those now?

That's right nowhere to be seen, else crap or get off the pot.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Funny news from Ukraine.

During the arrest, employees of the Security Service of Ukraine killed banker Denis Kireev, who, as part of the country's delegation, participated in the first round of negotiations with Russia in Belarusian Gomel. . This was announced by the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Alexander Dubinsky on his Telegram channel.

According to him, the detention was connected with the treason case. Other details are not given.

A photo of Kireev's corpse has been published. I.e. The SBU of Ukraine killed a member of the Ukrainian delegation at the talks with Russia. Oxymoron.

If he was indeed a spy, that remains to be seen?

That said it was no doubt probably true, I can't see Ukraine executing such a high-profile person as it would hurt western sensitivities. Even though this is war and most countries have such penalties. Though I doubt he had much of a trial or was even defended. Pretty sure it will show up in human rights abuse councils somewhere.

More than likely he was included in the initial talks because a trap had already been set.

You know, ATS is a conspiracy forum. But even here your assumption looks extremely absurd and ridiculous. Did Russian saboteurs, under the guise of employees of the SBU of Ukraine, sneak into the Kyiv court and there they destroyed a man who was bargaining for guarantees to Ukrainian business from Russia?
I'm sorry, but this is really funny

Im absurd and ridiculous and you act like Putin is pristine and an angel in this conflict. I mean I understand it now, as you would be severely penalized if you don't toe the line from your Dachau in Saratov. amirite?

Where did I say it was Russian saboteurs I said clearly if he was executed for being a spy Ukraine likely had reasons to believe it to be true as it wouldn't look good if Zelensky and the west are attached at the hip as you are aserting.

So you have evidence he wasn't a spy?

Why did they kill him then? again such an execution wouldn't look good. They wouldn't do it unless they had pretty good intel

One thing Ive learned during wartime is you don't trust either side Russian Ukrainian NATO or US.

As mentioned earlier all you can go on is the information you have access to if you have something else present it.

Actually, the word "Putin" is said all the time by you, not by me. So I turn your question to you)))
Can't you sleep without Putin?)))

You might have to explain the reference sleep without Putin?

He is still Russia's President?

looks like it.

tass.com...

MOSCOW, March 5. /TASS/. Up to 14,000 civilians in the Donetsk and Lugansk republics have been killed since 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday.

a reply to: RussianTroll

American likes drugs RussianTroll.

Supply and demand 101 really.

There is no real war on drugs, never has been, never will be in any sorts of meaningful manner.

To much profit and monies to be made you see.

Narcotics are not a real problem anyroad when compared to alcohol and tobacco use and the mess they make, so there is that.

a reply to: RussianTroll

You're a clever man....and a good man, there's no denying that.
I understand that you're also a proud Russian, I for one see no problem with that.

But please stop spouting this Soviet Union Pravda like propaganda verbatim, you are far better than that.

Both sides made mistakes in the build up to this crisis, I don't think anyone is questioning that....but this invasion serves one purpose; feeding Putin's insane hunger for 'greatness'.
And innocent people are dying because of it - including poor, young Russian conscripts.

Putin is the one who is bombing nuclear power plants and Putin is the one using the horror of nuclear war as a threat to the world.

Russia is indeed bombing cities and towns and villages and anything else.
Good honest people are dying as a result of Russian military aggression, that is an undeniable FACT.
In many instances these people thought Russia was their friend......some friends you've turned out to be.

You then come on here and attempt to garner sympathy for some imaginary and made up terrorist attacks against Russia?

You had built up quite a bit of respect on here....you're in danger of losing that.
Something makes me think you don't really care and will continue spouting the Putin party line blindly with little regard for the truth....or for what is right.

I really hope I'm wrong.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Shouldn't that actually read, "Biden and State department recruits Ukraine terrorists to carry out terrorist attacks in Russia." Might as well throw a little "dead fish" reality in there, because as always with Biden, something stinks. I think the US should send over Fauci to defend US BIOweapon lab interests in the Ukraine. It's great at shooting its cakehole off in the US and getting US citizens killed, maybe it can go overseas and do the same. Oh wait.... it already has.... (except in China and India).

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: putnam6

The us is the bad guys, and now someone is standing up to them and it’s Putin. He’s bringing the fear the us has unleashed on the world and sending it back. It’s incredible that people think an excommunicated Catholic abortionist spreader of perversions, lying mass murdering crook and his followers are the good guys, and the 2 twats that stood behind, smiling and dancing while Ukrainian people are dying, in his full of # state of the union.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

Shame the people of the Ukraine doing find it so funny eh?

Still waiting on your videos showing Putin's flowers or Russian troops handing out aid.

Where are those now?

That's right nowhere to be seen, else crap or get off the pot.

Just follow the thread up and you will see a video with the distribution of Russian humanitarian aid in Ukraine. By the way, only I bring photo and video evidence here. Are you afraid to present your evidence? Are you afraid that I will expose all your photos and videos in 5 minutes?
There is a channel on Telegram called "War on Fakes". Every day they expose hundreds of fakes. I am subscribed and follow this channel. I give you a link
t.me...

Just don't say you can't read Russian. I communicate with you in English.




Just don't say you can't read Russian. I communicate with you in English.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Can you simply not just post a link or video to support your claims of unicorns rainbows and stardust RussianTroll?

As to reading Russian well Google does translate.

As to you Telegram nonsense i choose not to support or utilise sites that enable right-wing extremists lunatics.

What's next Bitchute?

a reply to: Freeborn

I thought that in a few years I got to know me better than you write. I do not like communism and Soviet power, but I love my homeland. Western propaganda was no different from propaganda in the USSR,

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

Can you simply not just post a link or video to support your claims of unicorns rainbows and stardust RussianTroll?

As to reading Russian well Google does translate.

As to you Telegram nonsense i choose not to support or utilise sites that enable right-wing extremists lunatics.

What's next Bitchute?

I already posted links. If you are too lazy to find them in this thread, then this is your problem.

And why is your nonsense better than my "nonsense"))))

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: RussianTroll

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to help fund them.

In that case, don't be surprised if the Russians finance arms supplies to Mexican drug cartels, Northern Irish terrorists and separatists in any Western country. You justify it.

I'd be surprised they aren't already, hell many think the Mexican cartel is CIA, wouldn't that be hilarious Russia financing Mexican/Cartel/CIA

when cartel gangs kill American citizens, I think the citizens don't care who funds their killers.

What are you talking about?

We already have cartel gangs killing American citizens, not saying it's right but it is happening.

The irony is I agree with some of your points, you just present them in a way that let's just say doesn't resonate with the majority of the world.

Drop it. Better yet, watch Hollywood movies, starting with Al Pacino)))
How many Americans die each year from drugs? Really no one?)))

Drop it? you brought it up Like I didn't know Americans were being killed by drug cartels.

But I digress back to Ukraine..

I have a question are more refugees from Ukraine going to Russia or Belarus or are more going to western aligned nations?

After all, if this were a liberation wouldn't the majority of those being liberated go to their liberator's country? Isn't most of the Ukrainian's border Russian?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Ukrainians love their homeland also hence this entire predicament.

They don't love your invasion of there nation which is plain as the nose on most people faces.

Putin should go back home and ask the world to forgive.

Then again i think he knows he's on to plumbs on that score.

Freedom to Ukraine!

a reply to: RussianTroll

Im out and about on a little phone.

What page how many down?

Fact of the matter is your nonsense, or rather Russia's, is clearly evidenced by way of Putin's actions.

Simple as that really.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: gortex

And your media is not state-owned? Without government funding? lol

Our media is not State owned , the BBC is paid for by the licence fee and is to the Left of our current government , they are often critical of the Conservative government , independent channels have their own news programs which have nothing to do with government but in all cases our media reports on what it wants to report on , except in cases of National Security which is understandable.

Print media is also free of government control , some have slants based on the owners policies others are more balanced but none are state owned.

Your media on the other hand ... well we've seen in recent weeks the closures of those who report what the government don't want reported , namely the war in Ukraine.

You say you have been monitoring alternative media in the US and the West for many years , personal interest or professional , are you a journalist , an annalist or just someone with an interest ?

a reply to: gortex

15 years in prison for reporting on this "special military operation" tells us all we need to know about there media and draconian diabolical rules.

a reply to: RussianTroll

"Are you afraid to present your evidence?"

I gave you links and presented evidence that show the atrocities your nation is committing.

You did not like them even through there was 3 different sources. LoL

And im still waiting on you debunking them other than screaming FAKE NEWS.

a reply to: Randomname2

You seem to be completely ignorant of the fact that at present the vast majority of the world don't really give a # about your acute obsession with partisan US politics.

I never thought I'd see the day where so many so called American 'Libertarians', supporters of Freedom and individual Rights and alleged 'patriots' would so openly and blindly support a Russian dictator and tyrant and his illegal and immoral invasion of a neighbouring country just so that they could somehow justify further their own hatred for a President and quite bizarrely blame him for the current crisis.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. You reap what you sow and by the looks of things, Russia (you) aren't very good at gardening. What you've grown is the largest international outcry against any country in my lifetime, eclipsing anything thrown against the US for Iraq.

You could probably prevent any guerrilla attacks on your country by just going home and not invading other sovereign nations but that doesn't look like its in the cards.

What makes me sad is it won't be the Kleptocrats at the head of your country suffering, it will be the average Russian.

And your leader will be dead in less than 6 months. His pride will be his downfall and there will be a coup or an assassination.

Also, your military has been shown to be a lot less effective than what has been portrayed. The myth of the Great Russian Bear has been destroyed.

Unless it so sorta 4-d chess play by Putin, and I almost got through typing that line without laughing, almost.

a reply to: GAOTU789

That's if he is not already dying.

Got to be some kind of reasonable explanation as to why Putin choose to cut off his nose to spite his own face.

Somehow i imagine we are missing Russian pieces to this jigsaw.

He's certainly no being welcomed as the liberator he though he would be, thats a given.