Ukraine recruits terrorists to carry out terrorist attacks in Russia

Something I think Putin underestimated is that Ukraine peoples are essentially Russian to , and can't hardly be distinguish from Russians living in Russia as they speak the same language if I'm not wrong?

Russian people probably if not completely have relatives living in the Ukraine as of Ukrainian relatives?

This war will be very hard to fight even if Putin will conquer Ukraine those who really didn't wanted this war and Putin will resist and built an even larger resistance covert enough to inflict alot of deaths and damages to Russia I think?

Who can you trust anymore , and what will they smuggling inside Russia that could eventually be to devastating to handle?

To reverse this war before things really go awful as it already is will be the best option for everyone

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: RussianTroll

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to help fund them.

In that case, don't be surprised if the Russians finance arms supplies to Mexican drug cartels, Northern Irish terrorists and separatists in any Western country. You justify it.

originally posted by: 0bserver1
Something I think Putin underestimated is that Ukraine peoples are essentially Russian to , and can't hardly be distinguish from Russians living in Russia as they speak the same language if I'm not wrong?

Russian people probably if not completely have relatives living in the Ukraine as of Ukrainian relatives?

This war will be very hard to fight even if Putin will conquer Ukraine those who really didn't wanted this war and Putin will resist and built an even larger resistance covert enough to inflict alot of deaths and damages to Russia I think?

Who can you trust anymore , and what will they smuggling inside Russia that could eventually be to devastating to handle?

To reverse this war before things really go awful as it already is will be the best option for everyone

Putin said today that Ukrainians are Russians, but for 8 years Western propaganda has made them forget this. But soon they will remember it.

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Good luck to that silly sausage Putin trying to win Ukrainian hearts and minds with invasion and air strikes.

Even if this # show was somehow reversible i don't imagine the Ukrainians are going to stop until Putin and his ilk are dead and his Kremlin burning.

After all its nice to be nice.

Russia future and fate with Putin at the helm is the same Nazi Germanys in WW2 far as i can establish after all you reap what you sow.

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Where's all Putins flowers RussianTroll?

The Ukrainian people are showering their Russian aggressors with "Glory Flowers"! ...You know, the kind that come in fiery glass bottles.

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"Western propaganda has made them forget this"

Aye coz people are that stupid and cannot remember longer than a decade. LoL

Its not western propaganda willing to shell out 15 year sentences for voicing option's and telling the truth now is it?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: RussianTroll

Will I see at least one Western truck carrying food and medicine to ordinary people in Ukraine?

Who is going to drive those trucks given that Russia is already breaking the "humanitarian ceasefire" they agreed to ?

Russia today announced that it has provided humanitarian corridors for the exit of the civilian population from Mariupol and Volnovakha. Huge queues gathered in Mariupol, there is a photo. But the Nazis from the Azov regiment did not allow people to leave. No one came out, except for 17 people who made their way to the East for 3 days. And on 10-39 the Nazis of Azov blew up a multi-storey residential building, into the basements of which 3 days ago they drove 200 people - women, old people and children. Now they are under the rubble and no one is looking for them.
Russian resources wrote about this 4 days ago, as well as the fact that the Nazis drove people to hospitals, maternity hospitals, schools, kindergartens, and even to the workshops of the Azov-Steel plant and mined all these buildings. Now they are starting to blow people up.
Do you enjoy it?

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6
So your assertion is if the rest of the world sent humanitarian aid it would get through unmolested. Our experience in the past in other countries such aid is usually stolen and hoarded by the lawless thugs you say are now running around Ukraine

That is, you are saying that trucks and wagons with Western weapons pass unhindered to Ukraine, but bad Russia is hindering humanitarian aid?)))
LOL. There are no Russian troops west of the Zhytomyr-Vinnytsia line.

Troops aren't the only concern all it's takes is one trigger happy Igor in SU-57 strafing an aid convoy by mistake or are you asserting there are no Russian sorties west of the Zhytomyr-Vinnytsia line. A line which no doubt is the new Russian demarcation line is it not?

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I understand that but to much pain has inflicted amongst essentially your own brothers and sisters that history in Russia will repeat itself like what happened in the russian revolution in the 19th century?

Maybe Putin sees the west as it's enemy but beware that it could completely turn around?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: 0bserver1

Good luck to that silly sausage Putin trying to win Ukrainian hearts and minds with invasion and air strikes.

Even if this # show was somehow reversible i don't imagine the Ukrainians are going to stop until Putin and his ilk are dead and his Kremlin burning.

After all its nice to be nice.

Russia future and fate with Putin at the helm is the same Nazi Germanys in WW2 far as i can establish after all you reap what you sow.

Freedom for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland!!!

Russia will support these peoples in their struggle for independence from Britain. Weapons, food and gas.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: RussianTroll

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to help fund them.

In that case, don't be surprised if the Russians finance arms supplies to Mexican drug cartels, Northern Irish terrorists and separatists in any Western country. You justify it.

I'd be surprised they aren't already, hell many think the Mexican cartel is CIA, wouldn't that be hilarious Russia financing Mexican/Cartel/CIA

originally posted by: 0bserver1
a reply to: RussianTroll
I understand that but to much pain has inflicted amongst essentially your own brothers and sisters that history in Russia will repeat itself like what happened in the russian revolution in the 19th century?

Maybe Putin sees the west as it's enemy but beware that it could completely turn around?

Putin considered the West his friends for 20 years. But the West itself has made Russia its enemy, to the delight of China.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: RussianTroll

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to help fund them.

In that case, don't be surprised if the Russians finance arms supplies to Mexican drug cartels, Northern Irish terrorists and separatists in any Western country. You justify it.

I'd be surprised they aren't already, hell many think the Mexican cartel is CIA, wouldn't that be hilarious Russia financing Mexican/Cartel/CIA

when cartel gangs kill American citizens, I think the citizens don't care who funds their killers.

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How is Vlad feeling after his little "incident" last week? Still recovering?

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We had our chance at independence RussianTroll.

And the majority decided to # out of it because ASDA prices might have went up. LoL

We don't want your support, no require such, just your capitulation and an end to your atrocities in the Ukraine.

Might want to do so before winter and all your troops freeze to death in the snow same as the Germans did last century, so there is that.

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Russia today announced.....

Ah ,state media.

It is understood that evacuations from Mariupol and Volnovakha will not take place today after a failed ceasefire, the International Committee of the Red Cross said.

Earlier, Mariupol city council reported that shelling had continued around the port city as residents prepared to leave on buses at 11am local time (9am GMT).

"We remain in dialogue with the parties about the safe passage of civilians from different cities affected by the conflict," the ICRC said in a statement.
news.sky.com...

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: RussianTroll

Russia today announced.....

Ah ,state media.

It is understood that evacuations from Mariupol and Volnovakha will not take place today after a failed ceasefire, the International Committee of the Red Cross said.

Earlier, Mariupol city council reported that shelling had continued around the port city as residents prepared to leave on buses at 11am local time (9am GMT).

"We remain in dialogue with the parties about the safe passage of civilians from different cities affected by the conflict," the ICRC said in a statement.
news.sky.com...

I fail to see the difference between them and EU and the US state media.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

We had our chance at independence RussianTroll.

And the majority decided to # out of it because ASDA prices might have went up. LoL

We don't want your support, no require such, just your capitulation and an end to your atrocities in the Ukraine.

Might want to do so before winter and all your troops freeze to death in the snow same as the Germans did last century, so there is that.

Our surrender??? Thank you, I laughed for a long time))))
Once again, you do not even represent the real power of Russia. When the propaganda falls from your eyes, you will be horrified, as we were horrified in 1991.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Funny news from Ukraine.

During the arrest, employees of the Security Service of Ukraine killed banker Denis Kireev, who, as part of the country's delegation, participated in the first round of negotiations with Russia in Belarusian Gomel. . This was announced by the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Alexander Dubinsky on his Telegram channel.

According to him, the detention was connected with the treason case. Other details are not given.

A photo of Kireev's corpse has been published. I.e. The SBU of Ukraine killed a member of the Ukrainian delegation at the talks with Russia. Oxymoron.

If he was indeed a spy, that remains to be seen?

That said it was no doubt probably true, I can't see Ukraine executing such a high-profile person as it would hurt western sensitivities. Even though this is war and most countries have such penalties. Though I doubt he had much of a trial or was even defended. Pretty sure it will show up in human rights abuse councils somewhere.

More than likely he was included in the initial talks because a trap had already been set.

You know, ATS is a conspiracy forum. But even here your assumption looks extremely absurd and ridiculous. Did Russian saboteurs, under the guise of employees of the SBU of Ukraine, sneak into the Kyiv court and there they destroyed a man who was bargaining for guarantees to Ukrainian business from Russia?
I'm sorry, but this is really funny

Im absurd and ridiculous and you act like Putin is pristine and an angel in this conflict. I mean I understand it now, as you would be severely penalized if you don't toe the line from your Dachau in Saratov. amirite?

Where did I say it was Russian saboteurs I said clearly if he was executed for being a spy Ukraine likely had reasons to believe it to be true as it wouldn't look good if Zelensky and the west are attached at the hip as you are aserting.

So you have evidence he wasn't a spy?

Why did they kill him then? again such an execution wouldn't look good. They wouldn't do it unless they had pretty good intel

One thing Ive learned during wartime is you don't trust either side Russian Ukrainian NATO or US.

As mentioned earlier all you can go on is the information you have access to if you have something else present it.

a reply to: gortex

And your media is not state-owned? Without government funding? lol