Public Service announcement on Nuclear war

For all those who didn't have the pleasure of growing up being taught how to fear nuclear war, this may come in handy. Ever since 1945, "WE" figured out how to kill quite effectively, but perhaps a bit too angrily. We saw how easy it is to erase entire cities, millions of people in a split second. Now a smart guy would have said, "Woah, this is a bit too much power, we should make sure nobody has this in the future", but we aren't smart people. Instead, we decided all the big boys need piles of these weapons. And if your neighbor has 50, you need 51. there is a number of how many it takes to kill the whole world, and that number is much less than the number of bombs in existence.

So should you be afraid? NO. You should spend exactly ZERO seconds worrying about Nuclear war. Everyone who has one, knows that to use one, would make everyone use theirs, and we all die a nice quick death. Well most of us, a few will die a much slower death from radiation sickness and starvation, but those will be few. The failsafe is called MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction.

There is nothing regular folks can do about any of this, and the chances of some nutter pushing the big red button is slim. Worrying about what if's is a waste of energy. And if it did happen, there won't be enough time to construct a full thought. So my advice it worry about things you have control over, use your energy on things you can change. Enjoy where you are, and who is near you, and if you don't, change it.

I will leave you with a song. The lyrics used to be in my avitar, and sum up the fitting end to clown world. it's a song about the end, and the epiphany of what the wise people have tried to teach for so long, coming clear at that moment, and the simple irony of how that one thing, could have changed all of it, had it only been figured out a few seconds earlier.

Enjoy life, don't skip the things that matter most, and never pass up an opportunity to make a friend and have a beer.

a reply to: network dude

Honestly I think dying in a millisecond of a light flashing before my eyes wouldn't be the worst way to go. I wouldn't wish destruction on everyone but if I had to choose that or cancer or heart attack or stroke...

a reply to: network dude

So should you be afraid? NO. You should spend exactly ZERO seconds worrying about Nuclear war. Everyone who has one, knows that to use one, would make everyone use theirs, and we all die a nice quick death. Well most of us, a few will die a much slower death from radiation sickness and starvation, but those will be few. The failsafe is called MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction.

I agree that we shouldn't worry about it, mostly because we can't do a damn thing to affect anything.

But, with regard to MAD, there were a number of times during the Cold War that we came very close to launches... and those are the incidents that we know about.

a reply to: network dude

Everyone who has one, knows that to use one, would make everyone use theirs, and we all die a nice quick death.

Except sometimes, you really can't be entirely sure about what the demented, or the dementia-laden, might do. Anything's possible.

a reply to: network dude


Ummm…Wrong on one count…we didn’t decide…

They decided…

We…have absolutely no voice in these decisions…none…

This is entirely a…them…thing…


Other than that…

I know it’s only a virtual beer…but I’d drink more than a few with you…and discuss both politics…and…religion…

Taboo…can kiss my ass…



YouSir

originally posted by: BrokenCircles
a reply to: network dude

Everyone who has one, knows that to use one, would make everyone use theirs, and we all die a nice quick death.

Except sometimes, you really can't be entirely sure about what the demented, or the dementia-laden, might do. Anything's possible.

Scorched earth policy.

originally posted by: AcrobaticDreams
a reply to: network dude

Honestly I think dying in a millisecond of a light flashing before my eyes wouldn't be the worst way to go. I wouldn't wish destruction on everyone but if I had to choose that or cancer or heart attack or stroke...

That's probably better than living though the attack.

a reply to: network dude

I have some stories to tell you.

When my dad was briefly in a nursing home, my husband signaled me to come over to look at something.
There was a gigantic binder on how to evacuate residents in case of a nuclear bomb.
We just stood there a looked at each other.

The majority of people in there wanted to die, the others had zero mobility. Insanity

Right after Fukushima, My husband and I went out late at night. It was in Florida. We stopped at the grocery store to pick up a few things before heading home. It must have been 2 or 3 in the am. There were all kinds of Japanese people in there with their faces and arms burnt. I realized they were all Fukushima victims.

My third and final story….

High School, Europe……. There was a bus filled with students. I asked what it was all about and was told they were kids from Chernobyl area and they were all going to die and so they were taking them to different place.

a reply to: network dude

we all die a nice quick death.

That really depends on if you have fair warning.

If you know it's coming, you just get under some sturdy furniture, curl up and put your hands over your neck.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

we all die a nice quick death.

That really depends on if you have fair warning.

If you know it's coming, you just get under some sturdy furniture, curl up and put your hands over your neck.

Well that, or you can stand in front of a large plate glass window facing the direction of the expected blast.
That way you can get the full Benihanna experience. Sliced and grilled.

Let's just put it this way, way back in the early 70's my Dad told his wife and children where we should meet if TSHTF. Last night my sister says to me you remember where we all need to meet? First time in 50 years we have talked about it at all. NEVER HAD REASON TOO, not even during COVID or the riots, this just feels different.

Like I told her don't be paranoid and Dad's probably laughing his ass off watching, but Id pack a bugout bag and keep some cash on hand JIC.

I've been wanting to watch this movie for a long time. I may have seen it when I was a kid, but I don't remember it. All I know is that it supposedly really freaked people out at the time. Scared the crap out of 'em.

The Day After (1983 TV Movie)
www.imdb.com...

The frightening story of the weeks leading up to and following a nuclear strike on the United States. The bulk of the activity centers around the town of Lawrence, Kansas.

'The Day After:' Nuclear-attack TV movie horrifies America in 1983 | WABC-TV Vault

The important thing to remember is that afterwards you must make sure that your mask is on properly, and ,

that you keep a two metre gap between you and other mutants .

Do not use it as an excuse for lowering standards .

originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: network dude


Ummm…Wrong on one count…we didn’t decide…

They decided…

We…have absolutely no voice in these decisions…none…

This is entirely a…them…thing…


Other than that…

I know it’s only a virtual beer…but I’d drink more than a few with you…and discuss both politics…and…religion…

Taboo…can kiss my ass…

YouSir

anytime you want, you are welcome.

a reply to: network dude

Here's another PSA:

How to Use Potassium Iodide After a Nuclear Emergency

Aside from the immediate threats of a nuclear blast, the thyroid gland is the most susceptible organ to damage from radiation. Potassium iodide is a stable form of iodine (stable meaning it isn’t radioactive.) If the thyroid gland is loaded with stable iodine, it can’t absorb radioactive iodine. Radioactive iodine can cause cancer. Here’s how the CDC explains it:

The thyroid gland cannot tell the difference between stable and radioactive iodine. It will absorb both. KI (potassium iodide) blocks radioactive iodine from entering the thyroid. When a person takes KI, the stable iodine in the medicine gets absorbed by the thyroid. Because KI contains so much stable iodine, the thyroid gland becomes “full” and cannot absorb any more iodine—either stable or radioactive—for the next 24 hours.

This doesn’t protect your body from any other type of radioactive isotopes – only radioactive iodine. It won’t undo the damage done by radioactive iodine, so you must begin taking it immediately for protection. If there is no radioactive threat, you should not take KI, as it can be harmful.

How much?

Here are the dosages recommended by the FDA.

• Newborns from birth to 1 month of age should be given 16 mg (¼ of a 65 mg tablet or ¼ mL of solution). This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing newborn infants.
  
• Infants and children between 1 month and 3 years of age should take 32 mg (½ of a 65 mg tablet OR ½ mL of solution). This dose is for both nursing and non-nursing infants and children.
  
• Children between 3 and 18 years of age should take 65 mg (one 65 mg tablet OR 1 mL of solution).
  
• Children who are adult size (greater than or equal to 150 pounds) should take the full adult dose, regardless of their age.
  
• Adults should take 130 mg (one 130 mg tablet OR two 65 mg tablets OR two mL of solution).
  
• Women who are breastfeeding should take the adult dose of 130 mg.

Most supplements, such as from vitamin shoppes or healthfood stores, only carry dosages in micrograms, because higher doses can have adverse effects. But you can find the appropriate higher doses elsewhere, such as these from Amazon:

Thyrosafe Potassium Iodide Tablets

Per Drugs.com, it is prescribed/recommended for --

Potassium iodide is used to thin mucus and loosen congestion in the chest and throat. Potassium iodide is used in people with breathing problems that can be complicated by thick mucus, such as asthma, chronic bronchitis, or emphysema.

--which also cites the following side effects for potassium iodide:

Get emergency medical help if you have signs of an allergic reaction: hives, rash; fever, swollen glands, joint pain; wheezing, difficult breathing, trouble swallowing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.

Stop using potassium iodide and call your doctor at once if you have:

• fever, tiredness;
  
• swelling in your neck or throat (enlarged thyroid, or goiter);
  
• chest pain, irregular heartbeats;
  
• numbness, tingling, pain, weakness, or swelling in your hands or feet;
  
• a weak or heavy feeling in your legs; or
  
• bloody or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds.

I don't know if we should be worried or not. I'm not recommending it necessarily, just sharing the information for everyone to do with as they see fit. As I understand it, those closest to any nuclear incident would be most affected of course. Amazon obviously still has it, but anyone who wants it might want to get while the gettins good. If the nuclear hype continues to escalate, it will probably go fast.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

we all die a nice quick death.

That really depends on if you have fair warning.

If you know it's coming, you just get under some sturdy furniture, curl up and put your hands over your neck.

That's the drill, but when you gain a few years and think back on that, getting the kids to be still is critical to enjoying that last few milliseconds of time. We did have some smarts back then. Not much, but a little.

a reply to: BrokenCircles

Yep, that one did it's job well. I can still remember the images from that movie.
But knowing what I know now, I'm tickled to live 25 miles from Ft. Bragg. I should be well within the vaporization radius.
Of all the ways to go, instant nothing sounds so peaceful.

a reply to: network dude

That and chaos can cause more damage than the weapon.

Plus, you have to trust that the warning systems are accurate, looking at you Hawaii.

a reply to: network dude

instant nothing sounds so peaceful.

If that does happen, I really hope I get to see it. Any other kind of death, I'd prefer to be asleep and not even know about it. But end of the world, I'd much rather witness that one.

a reply to: BrokenCircles

I only hope I'll have enough time to pour a nice glass and fire up a stogey. You know, go out in style