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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: neutronflux
In that a virus became rampant in a city that happens to do research on coronavirus that happens to have a sequence that allows for gain of function from past research to kick off the first pandemic of this magnitude in about a 100 years. With how many covid pandemics before covid 19? Then China allowed people to travel out of China to spread covid 19, some sea wall.
The lab was put there to research coronavirus in the local bat population. So it's chicken rather than egg.
Gain of function research was denied funding and never actually carried out at that lab.
There have been multiple coronavirus outbreaks, Sara and mers are just two examples..
China stopped its own nationals from leaving. It was foreign nationals governments who let covid in. For example in the US they refused to quarentine anyone retuning from China unless they were visably sick.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: flice
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Yawn.
This simply adds weight to the argument that covid is naturally occurring.
All they've done is found that it's genetically similar to a strain of coronavirus that was previously identified I horseshoe bat's in China and Vietnam during the 2010s.
Your simply trying to twist something that we already know to make it sound like doom porn.
The odds that you quote vanish once you take I to consideration that it might be a close relative of covid 19, as they only apply to a virus evolving those characteristics independently. The odds are much better once you consider a common ancestry.
And from the Wuhan labs own research from that time, it shows that those SPECIFIC bats only live around 1.500 km from Wuhan.
The Wuhan bats do not carry those genes.
So there is only one way those bats got to Wuhan and that the spread started there.......
Bats... Can fly.
It took several years to reach wuhan and mutated at least twice on the way.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: AaarghZombies
You
Gain of function research was denied funding and never actually carried out at that lab.
NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan — despite Fauci’s denials
nypost.com...
May 1, 2020 5:50 pm
The Newsweek report revealed an alarming tidbit: The Wuhan lab at the center of the controversy had for years been engaged in gain-of-function research. What exactly is it? It’s a line of research where scientists take viruses and study how they might be modified to become deadlier or more transmissible. Why would they do this? Scientists who engage in such research say it helps them figure out which viruses threaten people so they can design countermeasures.
www.vox.com...
Dude, why do you have to lie to kick it…
The people who wrote those articles were wrong. Plain and simple. They aren't scientists and they mistakenly called something entirely different Gain of Function.
What is being described dies not meet the criteria of gain of function. Fauci corrected this in Congress.
It's like AOC calling anything that look similar to an Ar15 an assault rifle, even if its bolt action or airsoft. She said it, but she does not know what she's talking about, so liberals can cite her all they like and she's still wrong.
originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: AaarghZombies
You
Gain of function research was denied funding and never actually carried out at that lab.
NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan — despite Fauci’s denials
nypost.com...
May 1, 2020 5:50 pm
The Newsweek report revealed an alarming tidbit: The Wuhan lab at the center of the controversy had for years been engaged in gain-of-function research. What exactly is it? It’s a line of research where scientists take viruses and study how they might be modified to become deadlier or more transmissible. Why would they do this? Scientists who engage in such research say it helps them figure out which viruses threaten people so they can design countermeasures.
www.vox.com...
Dude, why do you have to lie to kick it…
The people who wrote those articles were wrong. Plain and simple. They aren't scientists and they mistakenly called something entirely different Gain of Function.
What is being described dies not meet the criteria of gain of function. Fauci corrected this in Congress.
It's like AOC calling anything that look similar to an Ar15 an assault rifle, even if its bolt action or airsoft. She said it, but she does not know what she's talking about, so liberals can cite her all they like and she's still wrong.
The real definition or the one they recently changed the definition of?
originally posted by: flice
No no no no...
They didnt fly. The populations stick pretty much around where they are found.
They are also very much different from each other.
More or less like dogs can look different.
The populations have their own terretories so to speak and hardly mingle.
Again, the specific bats Wuhan lab was researching and found to carry the transmissible virus was 1500 km from Wuhan.
The bats pictured as being sold at the wet market looksNOTHING like the Wuhan bats. It would be like comparing a chihuahua to a labrador.
Why are you defending the previous official narrative?
Even the British government is now acknowledging the Lab leak / release.
The people you trust... have #ed you and all of us over. Grow the # up and deal with it.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: AaarghZombies
What. To afraid to quote your “sources” funded by China….
Hes posting big pharma funded fact checkers and articles that are over a year old that parrot the fauci narrative.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Remind me again, wasn't it you who started threads say that the Vax made you magnetic, that masks would starve children of oxygen, or that the vax contained Graphene?
What was you're latest one, oh, yes, that the queen of England was taking anti-parasitic for Covid.
Compared to you, Big Pharma is mother Theresa.
A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan and revealed that EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing.
originally posted by: Tekner
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Yawn.
This simply adds weight to the argument that covid is naturally occurring.
All they've done is found that it's genetically similar to a strain of coronavirus that was previously identified I horseshoe bat's in China and Vietnam during the 2010s.
Your simply trying to twist something that we already know to make it sound like doom porn.
The odds that you quote vanish once you take I to consideration that it might be a close relative of covid 19, as they only apply to a virus evolving those characteristics independently. The odds are much better once you consider a common ancestry.
Your handlers must be very proud. Your persistence is noted, and I'm sure a promotion is in your future. I don't go down the "Paid Shill" road often, but when enough evidence emerges, and the boots have all been licked clean, there really is no other way to go.
Persistent, yes. Convincing? LOL. If getting picked apart every thread is his goal then yes maybe a promotion is in order. I have a feeling he comes here to act retarded for free though.
Because fauci told congress after they changed the definition of gain of function. Seeing any patterns here? AZ is a partisan puppet. Don’t mind him.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: AaarghZombies
You
The people who wrote those articles were wrong. Plain and simple.
Have any evidence or logically structured argument they are wrong other than your blind because your head is stuck up big governments a$$?
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
This isn't new, we've hypothesised this for well over a year now. It's a virus previously found in horseshoe bat's in China and Vietnam. There are two known strains which were in circulation prior to the first known human infection. Which again illustrates that this virus is not man made.
The OP's own source debunks itself, you just need to understand the data to see this.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
This isn't new, we've hypothesised this for well over a year now. It's a virus previously found in horseshoe bat's in China and Vietnam. There are two known strains which were in circulation prior to the first known human infection. Which again illustrates that this virus is not man made.
The OP's own source debunks itself, you just need to understand the data to see this.
None of this rules out that the virus was not leaked from a lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they were mostly studying and playing around with it. Even China has dropped the whole came from a bat in the wet market story.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
I think leaked is being a bit conservative at this point. I think the proper term is released.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
I think leaked is being a bit conservative at this point. I think the proper term is released.
Maybe, maybe not. The lab was known to have poor procedures for the level it was. China quickly destroyed it and all evidence AFTER the fact. If it was on purpose then they would not have released it 200 yards from where they produced it and then back peddling for a year in some massive damage control event.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Event 201 happened right before the "lab leak." What are the odds? What are the odds that there are multple plans to start a pandemic and use it as a vehicle for a new world order like operation lockstep, and then it happens? What are the odds.
The number of coincidences is staggering.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Event 201 happened right before the "lab leak." What are the odds? What are the odds that there are multple plans to start a pandemic and use it as a vehicle for a new world order like operation lockstep, and then it happens? What are the odds.
The number of coincidences is staggering.
Once again, if on purpose I can think of 100 other ways to do it better and not do it right at where my level 4 lab is...lol
It came from the lab and was an oh # moment for them. We will need to agree to disagree
Can you tell me how bats from 1500 miles away infected a city but failed to infect anyone else on there way to the city?