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That does not make him worse than Bush Jr., who now has been rehabilitated by the media and hangs out with Obama. When people state Trump is the worse president ever, it's as if they are ignorant of decades of endless wars and all manners of scandals. I'm old enough to remember when Bush: 1) Invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 911, based on false evidence and no threat. Approximately 200,000 civilians died, not to mention thousands of Americans 2) Pushed with other leaders the Patriot Act 3) Initiated a regime of torture
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Madviking
That does not make him worse than Bush Jr., who now has been rehabilitated by the media and hangs out with Obama. When people state Trump is the worse president ever, it's as if they are ignorant of decades of endless wars and all manners of scandals. I'm old enough to remember when Bush: 1) Invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 911, based on false evidence and no threat. Approximately 200,000 civilians died, not to mention thousands of Americans 2) Pushed with other leaders the Patriot Act 3) Initiated a regime of torture
This right here is why people need to see what is happening via Left/Right Hegelian dialectic, which I have posted about here for many years. Bush and BO same side ( the Deep State side ).
In 2004 we had Bush vs Kerry and both are Skull and Bones which I’ve also posted about here. Gee Aquarius rising is so fun to have in my chart !!!!
Yeah, that's why I consider it a uniparty establishment, with corrupt or complicit leaders of both parties.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ketsuko
Trump was as close to a 3rd party candidate that we will ever see in a dozen lifetimes.
In my humble opinion.
originally posted by: Gothar
So the hate for Trump is some kind of horrible disease but the equal hate for Biden is justified. An issue I keep seeing is the right wing zealots think hate for Trump only comes from the left. I hate all politicians, but hate Trump separately. I am not a democratic nor a republican. Many of my friends have no problem separating their disdain for that moron from any political affiliation they have. In other words, hate for that idiot transcends all beliefs. The Right loves him, dictators love him. Everyone else thinks he is a brown smear on the underwear of America's history. Plenty of stains mind you, but his will be extra long and dark and last well beyond this countries collapse into civil war in the next 3 years or so.
originally posted by: Gothar
So the hate for Trump is some kind of horrible disease but the equal hate for Biden is justified. An issue I keep seeing is the right wing zealots think hate for Trump only comes from the left. I hate all politicians, but hate Trump separately. I am not a democratic nor a republican. Many of my friends have no problem separating their disdain for that moron from any political affiliation they have. In other words, hate for that idiot transcends all beliefs. The Right loves him, dictators love him. Everyone else thinks he is a brown smear on the underwear of America's history. Plenty of stains mind you, but his will be extra long and dark and last well beyond this countries collapse into civil war in the next 3 years or so.
originally posted by: Gothar
So the hate for Trump is some kind of horrible disease but the equal hate for Biden is justified. An issue I keep seeing is the right wing zealots think hate for Trump only comes from the left. I hate all politicians, but hate Trump separately. I am not a democratic nor a republican. Many of my friends have no problem separating their disdain for that moron from any political affiliation they have. In other words, hate for that idiot transcends all beliefs. The Right loves him, dictators love him. Everyone else thinks he is a brown smear on the underwear of America's history. Plenty of stains mind you, but his will be extra long and dark and last well beyond this countries collapse into civil war in the next 3 years or so.
originally posted by: Gothar
So the hate for Trump is some kind of horrible disease but the equal hate for Biden is justified.
originally posted by: sarahvital
originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
In 7 years, this is my first post in this forum.
Honestly?
I loathe most politicians of either party.
My personal values place honesty above anything else,
and it would seem that lying is the currency of the realm
when it comes to politics.
I will come out and say, that I have always liked Bernie
Sanders, he seems like less of a paid shill for pharma
and other big money businesses, but I'm sure he's
not pristine either.
Bernie had clearly won the Democratic primary, but old
Shillary just had to get her 8 years, so there was no
Democracy in the Democratic party.. they overrode
the will of the people and shilled her in.
I just wanted to demonstrate that the Democrats
make me sick, quite often.
On the other hand, Trump lost me due to issues like
this:
en.wikipedia.org...
www.forbes.com...
Frankly, I find the man an idiot, he confesses to misdemeanors and
potential felonies on national television.
And stuff like this really makes me shake my head at some of his followers:
www.marketwatch.com...
So in short, I don't like hardly anyone in politics, of either party,
but Trump certianly seems to love making a fool of himself and
not caring. I mean, that is a subjective interpretation of course.
So it's things like this, that get Lefties upset.
Now, some folks put forward equally caustic examples about
old Shillary Clinton.
I guess I want to ask you personally, Ketsuko, and any others
who want to reply,
Is it really diffiult to understand why so many people don't
like Trump?
Kev
yes but i guess some people like to be lied to more than being told the truth.
trump is everyday people. not2 faced mealy-mouthed careered politician telling what you want to hear without doing anything cept taking payoffs. right bernie? biden? hillary? "if i was his dad" obama?
originally posted by: sarahvital
trump is everyday people.
originally posted by: knoxie
originally posted by: sarahvital
originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
In 7 years, this is my first post in this forum.
Honestly?
I loathe most politicians of either party.
My personal values place honesty above anything else,
and it would seem that lying is the currency of the realm
when it comes to politics.
I will come out and say, that I have always liked Bernie
Sanders, he seems like less of a paid shill for pharma
and other big money businesses, but I'm sure he's
not pristine either.
Bernie had clearly won the Democratic primary, but old
Shillary just had to get her 8 years, so there was no
Democracy in the Democratic party.. they overrode
the will of the people and shilled her in.
I just wanted to demonstrate that the Democrats
make me sick, quite often.
On the other hand, Trump lost me due to issues like
this:
en.wikipedia.org...
www.forbes.com...
Frankly, I find the man an idiot, he confesses to misdemeanors and
potential felonies on national television.
And stuff like this really makes me shake my head at some of his followers:
www.marketwatch.com...
So in short, I don't like hardly anyone in politics, of either party,
but Trump certianly seems to love making a fool of himself and
not caring. I mean, that is a subjective interpretation of course.
So it's things like this, that get Lefties upset.
Now, some folks put forward equally caustic examples about
old Shillary Clinton.
I guess I want to ask you personally, Ketsuko, and any others
who want to reply,
Is it really diffiult to understand why so many people don't
like Trump?
Kev
yes but i guess some people like to be lied to more than being told the truth.
trump is everyday people. not2 faced mealy-mouthed careered politician telling what you want to hear without doing anything cept taking payoffs. right bernie? biden? hillary? "if i was his dad" obama?
Good stuff.
Remember years and years ago when he used an alias (John Barron 😂) to brag about his prowess with women to WAPO!! He wanted to impress people who read WAPO. I find that hilarious.
But, my question to you is is that something everyday folk do. Silly me, it seems more like something a pompous ass would do…
They absolutely focus on him more than many other leaders, which is bizarre.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: sarahvital
trump is everyday people.
Anyone who eats burnt steak while drinking Diet Coke is not an everyday people, they are a barbarian.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Trump is one of those rare people who are truly for the People and we felt it.