Trump Hatred

a reply to: Gothar

a reply to: Gothar

How is that different from being a slimy politician though?

There exists ample evidence that the Clintons were just as slimy. Many who voted for him did not do so because he was a character of sterling reputation or morals, and we were not offered any candidate of that caliber. When we voted, it was because his policy positions were more in line with what we felt would benefit us over the alternatives.

This is something that people seem to consistently miss, and certainly I don't understand that idea that being a questionable businessman, especially from people who are likely to have just come off two years of exalting Walmart, of all places, for pandemic heroism, is any better or worse than being a highly questionable politician.

originally posted by: Gothar
Not a hard one to answer. Previous to being #45, he was a money hungry egomaniac who would pay for spots in commercials and movies. He ran a corporation that relied on shady backroom deals, was notorious for treating his staff poorly and constantly craved attention. He represented everything I hate about corporate America because he was corporate America. In addition to that, he exuded an almost desperate need for attention, constantly trying to reassert himself into the public eye and make himself relevant in any setting, from TV to tweets about behaviors to even politics.

Growing up in the NYC area allowed you to see how much of a scuzz he was for decades, then we gifted him to the rest of the world.

Please send us a fruit basket.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I could say the same about the Clintons having lived in the area around Arkansas.

a reply to: ketsuko

Can hate be an addiction? I wonder.

originally posted by: ketsuko
I could say the same about the Clintons having lived in the area around Arkansas.

Go ahead, say it, they lived here too unfortunately. It still doesn't make Trump any less of a self-promoting douche.

The more they hate him the bigger the disappointment every time they lose a battle. I thoroughly enjoy watching their suffering.

originally posted by: ketsuko
All right this isn't so much a breaking happening now thing as it is a curious phenomena I've noticed. I've noticed all over across all political spectrums, and it is something I cannot explain.

I'll start by saying that I never really liked Obama. OK, let me qualify that ... Obama personally seemed like he could be charming enough, but over the course of his presidency, I agreed with almost nothing he did as a president, and the one thing he could have done positive that might have made a huge difference by presenting an intact black family to a nation full of broken families, he chose not to do in favor of pushing wokeness and racial strife.

But, Obama is gone and no longer president. Except for those times when there is a relevant comparison to be made, I no longer really bring him up. I do it now to illustrate my point on Trump.

People who hated Trump seem to not be able to let it go. It almost seems that no matter what topic we're discussing, they will bring Trump up. And this isn't just leftists. I've observed it in people ostensibly on the right side of the political spectrum too. I understand not really liking Trump personally. He was abrasive. I didn't really like him, but I have a hard time understanding how you can conceive such a deep, visceral loathing of him that you have to turn every conversation into an opportunity to vent that loathing, even now, even when the topic has nothing at all to do with him or anything he really did in his turn in office.

I don't understand it. I may never understand it, but I think perhaps it's time to let it go. I'm not telling you to forget the policies you disliked. I haven't forgotten the policies Obama pushed that have hurt me and others in various ways, but I'm also not losing sleep over it, not hating people who liked Obama because of it, and not venting sheer visceral hatred of Obama into every single thing I do because of it. Obama is done even if the policies of his presidency linger. The same is true of Trump. Let it go. The country and your countrymen will be better when you do.

It's called mass formation psychosis. It's the same thing that's happening with people thinking fauci and the vaccine are legit. Even after watching all the project veritas videos where everyone admits its not and its all about profit.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ketsuko
I could say the same about the Clintons having lived in the area around Arkansas.

Go ahead, say it, they lived here too unfortunately. It still doesn't make Trump any less of a self-promoting douche.

And what baffles me is he has been the same douche since anyone knew his name, yet folks seems surprised by his actions.

originally posted by: network dude
And what baffles me is he has been the same douche since anyone knew his name, yet folks seems surprised by his actions.

I'm not surprised at all, he's good at one thing and one thing only, talking about himself and how great he is.

In 7 years, this is my first post in this forum.

Honestly?

I loathe most politicians of either party.

My personal values place honesty above anything else,
and it would seem that lying is the currency of the realm
when it comes to politics.

I will come out and say, that I have always liked Bernie
Sanders, he seems like less of a paid shill for pharma
and other big money businesses, but I'm sure he's
not pristine either.

Bernie had clearly won the Democratic primary, but old
Shillary just had to get her 8 years, so there was no
Democracy in the Democratic party.. they overrode
the will of the people and shilled her in.

I just wanted to demonstrate that the Democrats
make me sick, quite often.

On the other hand, Trump lost me due to issues like
this:

en.wikipedia.org...

www.forbes.com...

Frankly, I find the man an idiot, he confesses to misdemeanors and
potential felonies on national television.

And stuff like this really makes me shake my head at some of his followers:

www.marketwatch.com...

So in short, I don't like hardly anyone in politics, of either party,
but Trump certianly seems to love making a fool of himself and
not caring. I mean, that is a subjective interpretation of course.

So it's things like this, that get Lefties upset.

Now, some folks put forward equally caustic examples about
old Shillary Clinton.

I guess I want to ask you personally, Ketsuko, and any others
who want to reply,

Is it really diffiult to understand why so many people don't
like Trump?

Kev

originally posted by: carewemust
The more they hate him the bigger the disappointment every time they lose a battle. I thoroughly enjoy watching their suffering.

Shadenfraude isn't exactly a winning personality trait buddy. Maybe you should adjust your dosage and see a therapist.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I already admitted I don't like him, and this isn't an attempt to make people like him. What it is is a failure to understand why so many have such a deep-seated, visceral hatred for him, so much so that they go out of their way to inject it into any topic at all, even when it has little to nothing to do with anything that might be relevant in any, shape, or form to Trump.

I've seen the aforementioned conservative bloggers I've referenced turn baseball blogs into an occasion to gripe about Trump for some reason. That's what I'm talking about.

a reply to: ketsuko

Ok doke!

Yah, I talk mainly about science and metaphysics,
I don't need to discuss Trump, as you can plainly
observe.. I don't participte in these political
forums.

originally posted by: Gothar


He doesn't care about you, never has. Whiny looser.b

NONE of them care about us. Not a single one.

Derp

I hear you loud and clear!

Newspapers in Canada can't seem to be able to write anything without including "Trump's white patriarchal far-right nazi racist extremists subventionned by Russia".

They ALL say it, but they never give us any factual info pertaining to it, because we just HAVE to believe it, because THEY said it.

Trump is the new Hitler when you have no arguments whatsoever.

I've been wondering if there would be basis to a complaint since they parrot without proving anything.

a reply to: coamanach

www.forbes.com...

stuff like that.

I mean, it was obvious to a child, that Trump wanted to hold vast
outdoor rallies, to pump up his worshippers, and that by admitting
Covid was a problem, it would interfere with that.

That's the sort of thinking that gets him branded to be a 'mini-hitler'.

Whether that's fully valid or not, i'm not claiming.. but it seems at
least quasi-reasonalbe to make that argument, to me at least.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ketsuko
I could say the same about the Clintons having lived in the area around Arkansas.

Go ahead, say it, they lived here too unfortunately. It still doesn't make Trump any less of a self-promoting douche.

And what baffles me is he has been the same douche since anyone knew his name, yet folks seems surprised by his actions.

He's a profitable douche who knows how to turn thin air into dinero in almost any situation, Americans have always been divided between good industry and good philanthropy. Or shall we say, Mr Rogers vs Mr Bezos. Strong community values aren't worth much if everyone is broke and hungry, which was apparently what Hillary represented and now Biden. Trump on the other hand, was the walking glowing embodiment of milk and honey and manna falling from the sky. Turns out he's just as human as everyone else in the white house.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

What I mean is when you read a local news in Canada, they find a way, whatever the subject, to pitch Trump in it, even when there are zero connections with the subject.

I want factual info, not propaganda hit pieces.

Some journalists here talk about him non-stop; he got into their head hard and now we have to read almost everyday how his simple being has tainted and corrupted the whole world...

It dulls whatever message they had. You can see it in the allowed replies. What's the point of it?

I don't get the hate for Trump, especially considering he was a well known entity / celebrity prior to running for office. The hypocrisy of the left was on full view especially when they tried to brand him as a racist.

Here is Jesse Jackson back in 2000 praising Trump for his efforts at a Rainbow Coalition conference.



Even Obama likened the American Dream to Donald Trump.

I can't find the video, but you can see how Oprah, The View, etc all treated Trump PRIOR to him running for President and then afterwards. The level of hypocrisy of these people is frightening.

Donald Trump single handedly could probably take credit for rebuilding NYC into a world class city. He took some serious development risks when NYC was a basically a third world sh!t hole after the 70s.

I've stated before that I didn't care for Trump as a personality, but I never questioned his motives and love for the country. I voted for him because of his POLICIES and results. I could careless that he was mean on twitter or may not have been the best political orator.

Obama was the opposite. I voted for him the first time. He was smooth and PRESIDENTIAL but I really didn't agree with his policies most of the time. He was an empty suit imho. Good talker, but hardly a "doer"