17,000 Doctors Call Out The Corrupt Governments, And The Lying Mainstream Media.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

The say "17,000" but aren't releasing the names. I wonder how many of these people are the usual suspects. Alternative healers, fitness guru and the Chiropractic types.

I'd be interested how many epidemiologists and virologists there are among them.

I could sign a random partition, and be verified, but how meaningful it would be beyond my personal opinion it would be could debatable.

What's so upsetting to you about people being anti experimental gene therapy drug ? it's basic human behaviour to be sceptical in these types of situations. It's an experimental gene therapy drug TPTB are trying to force people into injecting into their bodies without their consent, how is that not a problem with you to the point where you start believing that people who do see it as a problem are somehow strange.

Look at how you just tried to demolish the claim that 17000 doctors are against this experimental drug, don't you find your behaviour strange ?

Ironic, because the same guy believed the same type of people he listed when they said covid was a killer and extremely dangerous. I'm sure he also believes the Physical Science teachers who claim global warming will end us all, too.

She's a paid shill.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Yes, yes we do. It's a basic protein. What protein can and can't do is well known.

Lead is a basic element. For most of human history, lead was considered safe. It's only recently that we found out it is a slow poison.

"Protein" is a class of molecules. There are literally thousands of proteins, each one capable of doing something completely different from the others. Mad Cow Disease is the result of a buildup of prions, which are proteins which exist in the body, but have folded differently and thus cause serious mental issues in the brain.

To say "this is a protein; therefore we know what a protein does and know all about this one" is one of the least intelligent statements I can imagine. One might as well say ostriches can fly... they are birds, and birds can fly, right? We know they are birds, and we know birds can fly. Therefore ostriches can fly... except they can't.

So, based on that response, I can only suggest that you do some actual research, maybe some guided study, into exactly what a protein is and why it is classified as a protein. You will find that your statement is as ignorant as saying prions cannot be responsible for Mad Cow Disease because they are proteins.

Its not particularly exotic.

I guess that would depend on how one defines "exotic." In one sense it is certainly "exotic," as it was unknown until late 2019. It does not exist naturally in the body so far as we can tell; it only exists, to our knowledge, as a part of the virus itself. Since the virus is said to be responsible for all these health issues, why would you expect that this protein that is an inherent part of the virus could not be at least partially responsible for some of those issues?

Anyway its identical to the one on the surface of covid so it can't do anything to you that catching covid can't do.

It is supposed to e identical. I mentioned protein folding earlier; are we absolutely certain that this protein produced by the mRNA process is not being folded differently from what would be present on the virus?

Even if it is identical, we know that the more severe effects of the virus occur when the virus enters the bloodstream. Until that happens, the Chinese virus is just a bad cold. The vaccine is injected into muscle tissue, but those giving the injection are not always aspirating the injection site. That means the vaccine can (and we have evidence that it does in some cases) enter the bloodstream... the same bloodstream which provides the virus itself with the capability for the most severe and debilitating effects of the virus.

Now, I ask you again, based on what I have just explained to you: do we know the long-term effects of this protein?

TheRedneck

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

That article is not addressing mRNA. It is addressing changes in the genome of virus-infected cells. There's a difference. The spike protein is a part of the virus, but it is also not the same as the virus. There are spark plugs in my car; I cannot move at 60 mph down the highway if I have a spark plug in my pocket and no car.

TheRedneck

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Actually there is much evidence that mRNA can manipulate nuclear DNA via reverse transcriptase.

link


It kind of goes to show why science is never settled like AZ suggests.

This actually settles a lot, you don't have a background in any relevant science because if you did you would know that the the article that you've linked to doesn't remotely describe what you think it does.

First of all the article isn't about the vax, it's about why some people register as having Covid on a PCR despite not actually having covid.

Secondly, it's not about mRNA, it's about RNA. These are two different things with two different functions and two different levels of capability.

If you were even remotely familiar with virology, biology or a host of other subjects you would know this. This is high school stuff. It's stuff you should know about from watching PBS or the Discovery Channel.

The article that you've linked two suggests that the covid virus can leave traces of itself behind through reverse transcription utilizing RNA transfer, not through mRNA.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

The say "17,000" but aren't releasing the names. I wonder how many of these people are the usual suspects. Alternative healers, fitness guru and the Chiropractic types.

I'd be interested how many epidemiologists and virologists there are among them.

I could sign a random partition, and be verified, but how meaningful it would be beyond my personal opinion it would be could debatable.

What's so upsetting to you about people being anti experimental gene therapy drug ? it's basic human behaviour to be sceptical in these types of situations. It's an experimental gene therapy drug TPTB are trying to force people into injecting into their bodies without their consent, how is that not a problem with you to the point where you start believing that people who do see it as a problem are somehow strange.

Look at how you just tried to demolish the claim that 17000 doctors are against this experimental drug, don't you find your behaviour strange ?

Given that the anti-vaxxer movement is synonymous with fraud and misrepresentation, I'd say that I'm asking some pretty reasonable questions. Such as who are these people that signed this document, and what are their areas of expertise?

I'll give you a couple of examples, do you remember that claim that airline pilots were dying suddenly because the vax and altitude didn't mix, and it turned out that this included people who'd not flow since getting the vax, and people who'd died in motor vehicle accidents.

Or more recently the claim about all of those FIFA players who'd died of heart attacks shortly after getting the vax, and it turned out that it was just names of athletes who'd died, and that 1) The weren't all FIFA players, 2) No effort had been made t0 determine when (or even if) they had been vaxxed, and 3) that it included people who'd committed suicide or were killed in traffic accidents.

So, no, I think that you're behavior is strange for accepting the "17,000" figure from a movement that lies more than it tells the truth.

Of course, if you'd like to convince me then by all means, what are these people's names and what are their areas?

Yeah, but the government and big pharma definitely, honestly, 100% aren't "synonymous with fraud and misrepresentation" though, right?

They never, ever lie and they definitely don't spread misinformation every single day...right?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

The say "17,000" but aren't releasing the names. I wonder how many of these people are the usual suspects. Alternative healers, fitness guru and the Chiropractic types.

I'd be interested how many epidemiologists and virologists there are among them.

I could sign a random partition, and be verified, but how meaningful it would be beyond my personal opinion it would be could debatable.

Appears Hopkin’s seems to think some of the “pandemic measures” were at minimum unhelpful:

sites.krieger.jhu.edu... gn=CHL%3A%20Daily%20Edition&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=202695972&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9AyEV84NbuVlb6SM3yvEwxvxayA_l8CN-gNyqGhJbxkjpF2rSj3llruT95QeKTJ5cYEXmpV9TZ z_sBogXgxDdsCKR9lg&utm_content=202695972&utm_source=hs_email

I can’t believe anyone is living in fear of COVID. At some point, you have to take off your 3 masks, face shield and avoid your 10th booster.

Or rather, I suppose you don’t have to stop any of that. Just don’t make everyone else have to live in your paranoid world.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

In the US, 17,000 would be considered fringe. There are about 10,000-15,000 actual white supremist and nobody is seriously claiming that we should listen to them.

Your analogies are terrible, people tent to ignore made up groups like white supremist that can't be proven or shown to exist. An experimental gene therapy drug on the other hand that does actually exist and is killing people, people tent to take notice of that because they can see it for themselves, it's not white supremacy hear say made up by the MSM it's actually real.

You do know that mRNA doesn't change your genetic makeup, right, and that you have approximately a 0.0018 percent of being killed by the vax?

so there is still a chance?

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

In the US, 17,000 would be considered fringe. There are about 10,000-15,000 actual white supremist and nobody is seriously claiming that we should listen to them.

Your analogies are terrible, people tent to ignore made up groups like white supremist that can't be proven or shown to exist. An experimental gene therapy drug on the other hand that does actually exist and is killing people, people tent to take notice of that because they can see it for themselves, it's not white supremacy hear say made up by the MSM it's actually real.

You do know that mRNA doesn't change your genetic makeup, right, and that you have approximately a 0.0018 percent of being killed by the vax?

so there is still a chance?

3% based on the Pfizer clinical trials, so yeah.

originally posted by: Godabove09

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

The say "17,000" but aren't releasing the names. I wonder how many of these people are the usual suspects. Alternative healers, fitness guru and the Chiropractic types.

I'd be interested how many epidemiologists and virologists there are among them.

I could sign a random partition, and be verified, but how meaningful it would be beyond my personal opinion it would be could debatable.

What's so upsetting to you about people being anti experimental gene therapy drug ? it's basic human behaviour to be sceptical in these types of situations. It's an experimental gene therapy drug TPTB are trying to force people into injecting into their bodies without their consent, how is that not a problem with you to the point where you start believing that people who do see it as a problem are somehow strange.

Look at how you just tried to demolish the claim that 17000 doctors are against this experimental drug, don't you find your behaviour strange ?

Given that the anti-vaxxer movement is synonymous with fraud and misrepresentation, I'd say that I'm asking some pretty reasonable questions. Such as who are these people that signed this document, and what are their areas of expertise?

I'll give you a couple of examples, do you remember that claim that airline pilots were dying suddenly because the vax and altitude didn't mix, and it turned out that this included people who'd not flow since getting the vax, and people who'd died in motor vehicle accidents.

Or more recently the claim about all of those FIFA players who'd died of heart attacks shortly after getting the vax, and it turned out that it was just names of athletes who'd died, and that 1) The weren't all FIFA players, 2) No effort had been made t0 determine when (or even if) they had been vaxxed, and 3) that it included people who'd committed suicide or were killed in traffic accidents.

So, no, I think that you're behavior is strange for accepting the "17,000" figure from a movement that lies more than it tells the truth.

Of course, if you'd like to convince me then by all means, what are these people's names and what are their areas?

Yeah, but the government and big pharma definitely, honestly, 100% aren't "synonymous with fraud and misrepresentation" though, right?

They never, ever lie and they definitely don't spread misinformation every single day...right?

Compared to anti vaxxers they're mother Theresa and the pope.

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Smigg

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

In the US, 17,000 would be considered fringe. There are about 10,000-15,000 actual white supremist and nobody is seriously claiming that we should listen to them.

Your analogies are terrible, people tent to ignore made up groups like white supremist that can't be proven or shown to exist. An experimental gene therapy drug on the other hand that does actually exist and is killing people, people tent to take notice of that because they can see it for themselves, it's not white supremacy hear say made up by the MSM it's actually real.

You do know that mRNA doesn't change your genetic makeup, right, and that you have approximately a 0.0018 percent of being killed by the vax?

so there is still a chance?

You've literally got more chance of being accidentally shot dead by your own gun, but I don't see anti vaxxers demanding more gun safety legislation.

a reply to: TheRedneck

To say "this is a protein; therefore we know what a protein does and know all about this one" is one of the least intelligent statements I can imagine. One might as well say ostriches can fly... they are birds, and birds can fly, right? We know they are birds, and we know birds can fly. Therefore ostriches can fly... except they can't.

Your wrong on just about every part of what you said in your original comment, but I'm just going to tackle this one part as it goes to the crux of the matter.

While we don't know exactly what every protein interaction may be in every combination, but we do know what they can't do because protein are protein and as such cannot suddenly pick up complex capability that protein lack.

One of these thing is that a protein cannot based on how it is constructed is to alter your DNA. We know that the spike protein lack the ability to break apart DNA or rna strands or to insert code into them as the lack both the hardware and the payload.

To use your analogy, we know that ostriches are birds, and that they have wings, but they don't have built in WiFi so they can't hack your email when you connect in an airport lobby without a secure VPN. And no matter what kind of ostriches you present to us, none of them ever will, because WiFi isn't something that the can have.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Your wrong on just about every part of what you said in your original comment, but I'm just going to tackle this one part as it goes to the crux of the matter.

So, prions (aka proteins known as PrP) are not responsible for the dementia-like illness commonly known as Mad Cow Disease?

Really? You might want to let the medical profession in on that little secret.

While we don't know exactly what every protein interaction may be in every combination, but we do know what they can't do because protein are protein and as such cannot suddenly pick up complex capability that protein lack.

That is literally the exact opposite of the claim you made and that I responded to. I asked you if we knew all possible effects from the spike protein; you answered yes, we do. Now you claim we don't. Make up your mind, willya?

A protein does not need to "pick up complex capability" to be toxic. The necessary complexity is already inherent in the normal biological processes. All a protein need do is interfere with one or more of those complex biological processes and bad things can happen. Sugar need not change into anything new or develop new capabilities to destroy an engine when poured into the fuel tank... the engine itself provides the complex environment to cause sugar to be destructive.

Here's you some light reading... don't fret; it's not that long a page and I found it quite interesting:
10 of the Deadliest Proteins on Earth

It even includes, as #1, a protein called Botulinum toxin:

First discovered in improperly handled meat products, botulinum toxin is the most toxic substance known to humankind. As little as 100 nanograms of pure botulinum toxin can kill the average human. The onset of symptoms varies from six hours to ten days, with the toxin leading to paralysis of muscles involved in breathing and death.

Botulinum toxin also the protein behind the commercial product Botox, the cosmetic product that paralyzes facial muscles in order to eliminate wrinkles.

Now, let me ask you again: do we know every potential interaction of the spike protein with human biological processes?

TheRedneck

a reply to: AaarghZombies

One of these thing is that a protein cannot based on how it is constructed is to alter your DNA.

Just so you might somehow consider wasting your time with an argument that I have already agreed with... you seem to be having trouble with your comprehension...

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

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The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

The spike protein does not alter DNA.

There, now maybe that is settled. Maybe. I hope that makes you feel better.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Now, I ask you again, based on what I have just explained to you: do we know the long-term effects of this protein?

Amen

a reply to: AaarghZombies

You mean a list of names something like this:

Dr. Ira Bernstein, co-founder, Canadian Covid Care Alliance; lecturer, Dept. of Family and Community Medicine, University of Toronto

Dr. Paul E. Alexander, clinical epidemiologist, former WHO-PAHO and US HHS consultant/senior Covid Pandemic advisor

Dr. Pierre Kory, critical care and pulmonary medicine specialist, former Chief of Critical Care Service and Medical Director of Trauma and Life Support Center at University of Wisconsin

Dr. Héctor Carvallo, former professor of Internal Medicine, Universidad de Buenos Aires, former Director Ezeiza Hospital, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Dr. Mobeen Syed, physician, computer scientist, CEO of DrBeen Corp (US), clinical consultant (Pakistan)

Dr. Paul E. Marik, professor of medicine and Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, Eastern Virginia Medical School

Dr. Flavio Cadegiani, endocrinologist & visiting professor, faculty of Floriano (FAESF); ad hoc consultant, Brazilian Health Regulatory Agency (Anvisa); consultant for National Commission for Incorporation of New Technologies, Devices and Drugs, Brazil

Dr. Marc G. Wathelet, molecular biologist, innate immunology and coronavirus expert, consultant, Belgium

Dr. Tess Lawrie, Director, The Evidence-Based Medicine Consultancy Ltd; founder, British Ivermectin Recommendation Development; CEO of non-profit Ebmcsquared CiC

Dr. Eivind H. Vinjevoll, senior consultant of anesthesiology and intensive care medicine, chief medical advisor of emergency medicine, Volda, Norway

Dr. Heather Gessling, family medicine doctor in Columbia, Missouri

Dr. Mark McDonald, double board-certified child and adolescent psychiatrist, Los Angeles, California

Dr. Olufemi Emmanuel Babalola, professor of ophthalmology, IP HOD Surgery, Bingham University, Jos/Karu, Nigeria

Dr. Richard Urso, scientist, sole inventor of an FDA-approved wound healing drug, former Chief of Orbital Oncology at MD Anderson Cancer Center

Dr. John Littell, family physician, with practices in Kissimmee and Ocala, Florida

Dr. Ryan Cole, board-certified pathologist, CEO of Cole Diagnostics, Boise, Idaho

Dr. Brian Tyson, family medicine doctor, Urgent Care Covid Clinic, Imperial Valley, California

Prof. Andrea G. Stramezzi, Italy

Dr. Zsuszanna Ragó, specialist in coronavirus, primary care; IVERCOV project leader, University of Debrecen, Hungary

Dr. Robert W. Malone, gene therapy, bio-defense, vaccines and immunology; discoverer of in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection and architect of mRNA vaccine platform

Dr. Jean-Jacques Rajter, critical care, pulmonary medicine, sleep medicine

Dr. Wong Ang Peng, Malaysian Alliance for Effective Covid Control (MAECC)

Dr. Peter McCullough, clinical cardiologist, preventive cardiology and advanced lipidology, former vice chief of internal medicine at Baylor University Medical Center

Dr. Jose Iglesias, associate professor, Hackensack Meridian School of Medicine at Seton Hall

Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, virology, vaccine R&D, former Sr Ebola Program Manager, Global Alliance for Vaccines & Immunization (GAVI), former Head of Vaccine Development Office, German Center for Infection Research

Dr. Li-Meng Yan, independent virologist, former researcher, Hong Kong University

Dr. Yoav Yehezkelli, lecturer, Tel Aviv University; former director of research and primary care medicine, Meuhedet Health Services; co-founder of Israeli epidemic management team

Dr. Catherine L. Lawson, research professor, Institute for Quantitative Biomedicine, Rutgers University, Piscataway, New Jersey

Dr. Barton Lane, emeritus professor of diagnostic radiology, Stanford University Medical Center, Palo Alto, California

Dr. Domingo Luis Cáceres Ortiz, family medicine specialist, president of the Medical Foundation of the College of Surgeons of Puerto Rico

Dr. Grace Lu-Yao, professor and vice-chair, Department of Medical Oncology, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Dr. Claudio Saliba de Avelar, medical coordinator, Espaço Mulher, Pardini Institute, Belo Horizonte, Brazil

Dr. Claudia Chaufan, professor, Health Policy and Global Health, York University, Toronto

Dr. Gregory Dembo, director of Transplant Anesthesia, University of Washington Medical Center, Seattle, Washington

Dr. Paul Carter, orthopedic surgeon, Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center, California

Dr. Panayiotis A. Ellinas, family medicine, former US Army Lt Colonel and Army Surgeon General Subject Matter Expert in preventive medicine

Dr. Mark Dunphy, nuclear medicine physician, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, New York, New York

Dr. Brian J. Koos, maternal and fetal medicine, UCLA Medical Center, Los Angeles, California

Dr. Vladimir Algarin, general practitioner, Carolina, Puerto Rico

Dr. Sandra Bezares, internal medicine specialist, Caguas, Puerto Rico

Dr. Alberto Pupi, professor of clinical pathophysiology, University of Florence Medical College, Italy

Dr. Thomas A. Johnson, internal medicine, Ascension Medical Group, Brookfield, Wisconsin

Dr. Orest Stecyk, family medicine, UH Cleveland Medical Center, Cleveland, Ohio

Dr. Peter Parry, associate professor, child & adolescent psychiatry, The University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

Dr. Giovanni Frajese, endocrinology and cancer research; associate professor, Applied Medical Technical Sciences, University of Rome “Foro Italico”, Rome, Italy

Dr. Eric Wargotz, Clinical Professor of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine, the George Washington University School of Medicine, Washington, DC

Dr. Phillip Sirota, Veterans Affairs Health Care System, Phoenix, Arizona

Dr. Donald W. Miller, retired Professor Emeritus of Surgery, former Chief of Division of Cardiothoracic Surgery, University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle, Washington

Dr. Xiaoxu Lin, former microbiologist, Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, Viral Diseases Branch, former in-theater infectious diseases surveillance lab head, US Army

Dr. R. Duane Cook, thoracic and cardiovascular surgeon, University of Florida Health

Dr. Sylvia Monserrate Nunez Fidalgo, general practitioner, San Juan, Puerto Rico

Dr. Ming Chu Wang, Department of Anesthesia, National Taiwan University Hospital, Taipei, Taiwan

Dr. Ondrej Halgas, biomedical researcher, University of Toronto, Canada

Dr. Mark Kreimer, board certified emergency medicine physician, Brooklyn, New York

Dr. Ram Duriseti, clinical associate professor, Stanford University Division of Emergency Medicine, Palo Alto, California

Dr. Kraig Lage, diagnostic radiology, University Of Missouri HealthCare, Columbia, Missouri

Dr. Annie L. Emmick, board certified pediatric specialist, Northwestern Medicine, Illinois

Dr. Mario Beauregard, neuroscientist, Department of Psychology, University of Arizona

Dr. Brent Stewart, Emeritus Professor, Diagnostic Physics, University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle, Washington

Dr. Andrei N. Tchernitchin, director of Laboratory of Experimental Endocrinology and Environmental Pathology ICBM, Faculty of Medicine, University of Chile

Dr Simon J Thornley, public health physician, lecturer and researcher in epidemiology and biostatistics, University of Auckland, New Zealand

Dr. Spiro P. Pantazatos, Assistant Professor of Clinical Neurobiology (Psychiatry) at Columbia University, research scientist at New York State Psychiatric Institute

There are more than 9.2 million doctors. 17,000 of 9,200,000+...

Second line is elipses.

originally posted by: Smigg
More physicians and medical scientists have joined with their colleagues from around the world in signing the Physicians Declaration. Now with more than 17,000 signatures confirmed through a rigorous validation process.

The over 17,000 signers to the declaration have reached consensus on three foundational principles:

1.Healthy children should not be subject to forced vaccination: they face negligible risk from covid, but face potential permanent, irreversible risk to their health if vaccinated, including heart, brain, reproductive and immune system damage.

2.Natural Immunity Denial has prolonged the pandemic and needlessly restricted the lives of Covid-recovered people. Masks, lockdowns, and other restrictions have caused great harm especially to children and delayed the virus’ transition to endemic status.

3.Health agencies and institutions must cease interfering with the physician-patient relationship. Policymakers are directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, as a result of institutional interference and blocking treatments proven to cure at a near 100% rate when administered early.

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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Your wrong on just about every part of what you said in your original comment, but I'm just going to tackle this one part as it goes to the crux of the matter.

So, prions (aka proteins known as PrP) are not responsible for the dementia-like illness commonly known as Mad Cow Disease?

Really? You might want to let the medical profession in on that little secret.

While we don't know exactly what every protein interaction may be in every combination, but we do know what they can't do because protein are protein and as such cannot suddenly pick up complex capability that protein lack.

That is literally the exact opposite of the claim you made and that I responded to. I asked you if we knew all possible effects from the spike protein; you answered yes, we do. Now you claim we don't. Make up your mind, willya?

A protein does not need to "pick up complex capability" to be toxic. The necessary complexity is already inherent in the normal biological processes. All a protein need do is interfere with one or more of those complex biological processes and bad things can happen. Sugar need not change into anything new or develop new capabilities to destroy an engine when poured into the fuel tank... the engine itself provides the complex environment to cause sugar to be destructive.

Here's you some light reading... don't fret; it's not that long a page and I found it quite interesting:
10 of the Deadliest Proteins on Earth

It even includes, as #1, a protein called Botulinum toxin:

First discovered in improperly handled meat products, botulinum toxin is the most toxic substance known to humankind. As little as 100 nanograms of pure botulinum toxin can kill the average human. The onset of symptoms varies from six hours to ten days, with the toxin leading to paralysis of muscles involved in breathing and death.

Botulinum toxin also the protein behind the commercial product Botox, the cosmetic product that paralyzes facial muscles in order to eliminate wrinkles.

Now, let me ask you again: do we know every potential interaction of the spike protein with human biological processes?

TheRedneck

Again, almost everything that you have said is wrong, and the bits that are right are irrelevant. You clearly don't understand what you are cutting and pasting in.

We know for 100% that the spike protein does not alter your DNA because it does not have the hardware to do so. It does not have any of the necessary components to inject its own code, or the code to inject. Its too simple a structure.

Mad cow disease is caused by a protein doing something that we knew it could do but in a place we didn't expect it to be. So it's not a valid example in this case.

Especially since its actually a cross species version of a disease that's been known about in sheep for decades.

Totally predictable reaction, but in an unexpected place.

a reply to: TheLivingEd

But who are these 17,000?

Fewer than 100 are named and they include people with bad reputation as the previous person said.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: TheLivingEd

But who are these 17,000?

Fewer than 100 are named and they include people with bad reputation as the previous person said.

One of the most recent signatories is the world renowned scientist Dr. Wobbly Bigknob.

Yes childish I know, but think makes point about the 17000+ signature claim.