Black Vault Originals : Retired CIA Officer John Ramirez on the Agency , Orbs and More

originally posted by: Direne
a reply to: VulcanWerks

other non-craft, ET related events.

Which ones? I mean, which ET-related events could possibly be unrelated to physical objects?

My mistake. I should have said “non-craft, non-ET related events”.

There are trains of thought that orbs could be ghosts, spirits, angels/demons, atmospheric phenomenon, etc. that are not specifically “ET” related.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Direne

By that definition stars are not a physoical object either... as they just consists of a mass of gas held together by its own gravity...

No , Stars have an iron core which is surrounded by other elements like Hydrogen and Helium , they are very much physical things.

Stars only develop an iron core only after it's hydrogen fuel is exhausted, and the helium fusion reactions start occurring; forming heavy elements like iron an nickel.

a reply to: gortex

I'm a little surprised...that John Ramirez doesn't think that their is a nuts an bolts starship encased in a ET, UAP plasma orb.

Most nighttime sightings of UAP's of the extraterrestrial kind, have some kind of magnetically encased plasma of some sort.

But daytime sightings of ET, plasma orbs are hardly seen at all.

Which brings me to speculate...that one of the reasons why a starship is possibly encased in the plasma, when no sunlight is present: Is that the starship uses the lighted plasma as a fuel source (i.e. - photons) for it's micro-mini black hole starship engine.

I had my own possible, double nighttime sighting of a foo fighter, back in November of 1976, approximately 40 miles west of Washington D.C. --- With myself seeing the speedy UAP not only in it's bluish-white hi-power plasma phase, but also seeing it in it's red-orange fiery ball landing phase (approx. 30 mph) --- Along with a possible, telepathic experience I had between the two sightings; where I sensed the presence of a highly intelligent being onboard the foo fighter.

a reply to: gortex

Wowzers Gortex.............. This looks fun just goig on now

a reply to: Erno86

You understand what youre saying makes no sense right?

a reply to: Erno86

The color is not indicative of it being in a high or low power phase. The reason it looked orange when it was moving slower or hovering was because the plasma is literally burning the atmosphere. The orange color comes from nitric oxide being formed. Fyi if the plasma is orange while moving fast its really high power blue would be lower power in that circumstance. Also with the nature of these things the speed is irrelevant to its "power"

a reply to: Erno86

You realize plasma is not the most efficient way to convert energy into photons right?

No one trusts members and associates of the intelligence community, no matter what they say. But they trust ex members and associates of the intelligence community. Oh my.

a reply to: Erno86

How do you know anything plasma based at night has anything whatsoever to do with aliens besides the fact you simply want to believe with zero practical evidence other than "golly gee it moved real fast nothing can do that!". And dont get into foo fighters. Theyre a rudimentary version of the exact same phenomena based off the same science and just more cumbersome antiquated kit thats not alien based either.

a reply to: vance

Yeah good observation. The logical disconnect people have with the subject is astounding. So they can't talk about it while active because its a violation of their nda and military and federal code for knowledge of classified information. And suddenly the second they are out they think magically the responsibility to secure their classified knowledge goes away. As if its not illegal to knowingly give away information you reasonably know would compromise national security. Bet you can still land your ass in jail for doing that even if you are a civ who was never actually part of the govt. Or signed into anything. All they have to prove is that you were privy to sensitive privileged information and reasonably knew divulging it could compromise national security. So its a wonder nobody talks that really knows anything civy or fed. And if they do what they disclose is not useful or not correct or worth anything from an actual national security standpoint. Ie these intel guys are knowingly feeding you folks bullshyte or worthless info.

Very interesting interview. Will need to listen to the second part again as was at work when listening to it and side tracked later when concentrating on getting things made and attempting to file the VAT and pay it which took two hours and is a conspiracy in itself how the site crashes every time for two hours when you click the final button..

The guy seemed well into orange orbs. Sure they are out there, seen all over the place. What disappointed me was him neglecting all the other orb colour types. Whites are as common as orange, indeed I'd say historically the whites are far more common than amber orange types. Then where were the greens, the silvers, the yellows, the reds? I guess if it's the amber orange types Mr Ramirez encountered then that's what he thinks the orbs are all about so fair doos

Will need to check this out again tomorrow but it's one heck of an interview, fairly lengthy too at 1 and a 1/2 hours.

Something about China towards the end from memory. Pretty interesting the stuff about the Russian technology using plasma, while at the same time he acknowledged that the orbs can go higher than what the Russians can do.

Looking forward to a second blast tomorrow

Very good explanation, maybe some of the believers will actually read it.







a reply to: BASSPLYR

a reply to: vance


Yeah heres another fun one. If the interviewer was actually asking salient questions of any relevance to the reality of this phenomena that in any way is designed to get the interviewee to spill the beans, whistle blow or disseminate classified information. Then theyve just committed a felony for attempting to solicit classified information. So of anyone is watching blogs, podcasts or youtube videos where they are interviewing a "insider" giving a tell all about classified programs or materials its bullshyte. Period. Otherwise both parties are essentially committing felonies. Amazing this never crosses the researchers minds.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Well with plasma in general. White/blue indicate low energy. Yellow orange and red higher energy since its got enough juice to burn the atmosphere. Green i wont go into, cause it can mean a few things. None of which ill go anywhere near discussing for above said reasons.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Well with plasma in general. White/blue indicate low energy. Yellow orange and red higher energy since its got enough juice to burn the atmosphere. Green i wont go into, cause it can mean a few things. None of which ill go anywhere near discussing for above said reasons.

Sounds awesome

When you have maybe a dozen same coloured pairs of orbs above you say 20 foot above you, the orbs being in a perfect circle but still in pairs some green, some pairs yellow, some white, some red, some amber orange, can the orbs be that close but still showing this different level of energy output? Also their individual colours never changed, they stayed individual and constant in their colour type.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

I dont see why not. Theyre each doing their own thing. It depends what the natures of the orbs were too. Could have been many things.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Those orbs appeared after an angle grinder white type ufo orb (some call it ball lightning) came at us from behind with loads of molten metal spraying from it and this then turned / morhed into an angel light so bright white like a nuke bomb bright, holy white, angel bright. Ironically this angel light appeared after two amber types drifted towards us wtaking twenty minutes as they are well shy, one of them morphed into a shape of a body builders dumbell.

What did surprise me later was the red types in the circle the red had a light beam emitted from them, they used this to scan the ground like they were looking for something. Also shone their beam towards the sky, hence giving them the name the Lighthouse red type.

Where I do believe there is more to all this than just pure plasma is when the radiant white mothership appeared the size of two double decked buses and this roared like an elephant and crop sprayed us with a substance like cotton wool fine strands.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Oh man that sounds like one hell of a night!

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Did you collect the molten material once it came to the ground and cooled or any of the angel hair like substance?

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Oh man that sounds like one hell of a night!

Amazing night BASSPLYR and no didn't collect any angel hair substance or the molten metal. We ran like the wind out of there. It was not exactly scary / frightening, but so out of this world it was shocking to the core, fight or flight is a natural reaction of being a human being, there was nothing to fight yet flight seemed the best bet in a situation that was straight out out of Close Encounters and who knows what would be next if we stayed put x