300 million year old pot found in coal

300 million year old pot.

Is it still smokable?

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I do not know who is teaching that coal is formed by heat and pressure. And I don't care if he is a Nobel winning scientist.
Coal is mainly carbon and as any child has been taught, if carbon is under prolonged high pressure it becomes......... yes diamond. YES, there is a small amount of pressure in formation but not high pressure.
Now for the idiots answer. Coal is combustible, hence we use it for fuel. Yes, coal seams can heat up and even ignite but because they are underground they cannot get the Oxygen for a conflagration. But it does "smoulder", turn to ash and leave voids underground.
How do I know this.... My great-grandfathers, grandfathers, father and brothers all worked in the coal industry.
Coal forms underground and any artefacts found in it must have been there at the formation. If you want to come up with any simple explanation is that is a hoax placed there at the time of working the seam. But, if the imprint is in the coal that explanation is out.
Now for all the sceptics I would challenge you with all the modern technology to replicate the artefact in situ of a lump of coal.

a reply to: crayzeed

"Coal is formed when dead plant matter decays into peat and is converted into coal by the heat and pressure of deep burial over millions of years"

So the Bell the kid found and this bowl and the other items would have been washed away in the great flood and settled in what was once a forest or a lush grassland .

Pangaea breaking up and the flood water would have caused this to happen . Scientist have everything wrong especially dating .


I do have a question ----- Why no rust ?

Hoax bin... or the very least, LOL bin.

Obvious nonsense is obvious.

There are many other anomalies found in coal



This, and many other examples, show that coal was deposited rapidly. Think about it, all it takes is low oxygen mixed with massive pressure and/or heat to form coal from organic matter. I would theorize that after the global flood massive deposits of organic matter were sandwitched between heavy sediment layers to form coal beds. Given we can make coal in a lab, it is evident that the coal didn't form 100s of millions of years ago. This idea is supported by the pot in your OP and other examples.

originally posted by: cooperton
There are many other anomalies found in coal

This, and many other examples, show that coal was deposited rapidly. Think about it, all it takes is low oxygen mixed with massive pressure and/or heat to form coal from organic matter. I would theorize that after the global flood massive deposits of organic matter were sandwitched between heavy sediment layers to form coal beds. Given we can make coal in a lab, it is evident that the coal didn't form 100s of millions of years ago. This idea is supported by the pot in your OP and other examples.

Ergo... goddidit? Right?

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

I do have a question ----- Why no rust ?

It's because of low-oxygen/no-oxygen conditions. This sort of condition also helps coal to form

originally posted by: Kreeate

Hoax bin... or the very least, LOL bin.

Obvious nonsense is obvious.

Blindly denying evidence that disproves your beliefs... classic atheist fundamentalist

a reply to: cooperton

What if we are genetically modified beings that the whoever made us to mine a substance that once depleted they left us to rot ?

As for the rust thing it takes coal sometime to form the iron would have rusted out long before the formation ?

originally posted by: cooperton

Blindly denying evidence that disproves your beliefs... classic atheist fundamentalist

There is no evidence for your delusion, lol. I don't have any "belief", only evidence based facts. Try again. Your young earth creationist nonsense does not fly, yet again and still.

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: cooperton

Blindly denying evidence that disproves your beliefs... classic atheist fundamentalist

There is no evidence for your delusion, lol. I don't have any "belief", only evidence based facts. Try again. Your young earth creationist nonsense does not fly, yet again and still.

Quarks were a delusion too...until they weren't.

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: cooperton

Blindly denying evidence that disproves your beliefs... classic atheist fundamentalist

There is no evidence for your delusion, lol. I don't have any "belief", only evidence based facts. Try again. Your young earth creationist nonsense does not fly, yet again and still.

Quarks were a delusion too...until they weren't.

Sure, that's the fundamental difference between religion and science.
The one will adapt and correct itself with reproducible tests, evidence and facts, all the while understanding that the data may change, while the other is absolute, direct, affirmative and refuses to even acknowledge any potential change.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
a reply to: cooperton

What if we are genetically modified beings that the whoever made us to mine a substance that once depleted they left us to rot ?

As for the rust thing it takes coal sometime to form the iron would have rusted out long before the formation ?

Iron doesn't just inherently rust. There are iron relics in some environments that have lasted many hundreds of years without rust and intervention. Things that are buried or encased in any way are often greatly protected or preserved. The same oxygen the is necessary for rust is also necessary for rot, yet we have found countless preserved critters and people preserved in peat and other environments.

The other issue is that most peoples who used iron understood that iron could be susceptible to rusting, so they would often oil or season the exterior in some way that would further prevent it.

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: cooperton

Blindly denying evidence that disproves your beliefs... classic atheist fundamentalist

There is no evidence for your delusion, lol. I don't have any "belief", only evidence based facts. Try again. Your young earth creationist nonsense does not fly, yet again and still.

Quarks were a delusion too...until they weren't.

Sure, that's the fundamental difference between religion and science.
The one will adapt and correct itself with reproducible tests, evidence and facts, all the while understanding that the data may change, while the other is absolute, direct, affirmative and refuses to even acknowledge any potential change.

Yet we've reached a point where people are telling kids they can be girls or boys regardless of biology, so what really is delusion and what is science?

originally posted by: Halfswede

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: cooperton

Blindly denying evidence that disproves your beliefs... classic atheist fundamentalist

There is no evidence for your delusion, lol. I don't have any "belief", only evidence based facts. Try again. Your young earth creationist nonsense does not fly, yet again and still.

Quarks were a delusion too...until they weren't.

Sure, that's the fundamental difference between religion and science.
The one will adapt and correct itself with reproducible tests, evidence and facts, all the while understanding that the data may change, while the other is absolute, direct, affirmative and refuses to even acknowledge any potential change.

Yet we've reached a point where people are telling kids they can be girls or boys regardless of biology, so what really is delusion and what is science?

What you are describing in terms of "telling kids what they could be" is not science. It is simply social "insanity". It is madness on a global scale. It is the general idea that we can "become" anything simply because society told us we could, which is absolute nonsense.

Telling your kid they "could be anything they want" is synonymous to child abuse because it is nonsense.
Some kids will become "something". Some will simply not. Implanting the delusion into your child that they could be "anything they want" is utter garbage. We are all human beings and our ultimate path will be determined by our own individual actions.

a reply to: Akragon

This is obviously one of those cups that the Engineers from Prometheus drink that makes them fall apart and turn into little DNA snippets that later reform into pollywogs.

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: rickymouse
There probably have been many more advanced civilizations on this world over the last hundreds of millions of years. Most metal things probably got turned to crystal and break apart. This one made it. There were other things found buried way down in the coal too, for some reason the coal seems to preserve metal things.

I am sure that metal things found over the millenniums were melted down to make tools or weapons, a surf might also turn one into a knife or just use a pot found buried or in a cave. To believe that modern humans were the only intelligent beings on this planet since it was formed is idiotic, heck, teenage kids seventy years ago weren't really that much different than kids today. I was fooled into believing in the generation gap, but once I got in my forties and started talking about things with my uncles and older friends, I found that not much had changed, hormones drove society of the young back then just like today.

Wouldn’t time travel be a more likely explanation? The pot may only have been there a short amount of time, maybe even only a couple of hundred year.

It could have been teleported there recently, but from another time.

If you were to attempt to send matter through time travel, it would wind up in space elsewhere. Because in a few minutes we have moved a long way through the solar system and around the milky way. Time is relavent to overall position in the universe too, everything is in constant motion and at high speeds. Yesterday we were millions of miles away from where we are now, that does not even take into consideration the rotation of the earth itself.

I believe if our tech is so advance to build a time machine then surely the machine itself would calculate position in the universe and calculate future/past positions? I’m guessing of course

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
a reply to: cooperton

What if we are genetically modified beings that the whoever made us to mine a substance that once depleted they left us to rot ?

I look at our societal construct and it does seem like a big indentured servitude pyramid scheme. There are theories that aliens/extra-dimensionals are running the show here on earth. It makes me wonder.

As for the rust thing it takes coal sometime to form the iron would have rusted out long before the formation ?

The catastrophe may have happened somewhat freshly after the iron pot was made, or maybe it is a more rust-resistant alloy.

Ah, so you like mysterious pots found in odd places and OOPARTS and from the distant past?

Here is an old one from 1852

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Exhaustive explanation here:

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Hmmm...I didn't read every post (so apologies if a repeat), but it would seem to me that if coal was ground up into granular or powder form and then mixed with water to form a slurry, and then poured into a pit with the pot inside, and then had earth piled on top of it, the surcharge would eventually force the moisture out of the coal and it would solidify back into solid form.

Just a thought.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
Someone is all OCD over the safety of their pots.

Harte