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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
originally posted by: joejack1949
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Interesting post... but:
In laymen's terms this means that the vaccine leaves you worse off than having no vaccine at all because the virus can select new mutations to circumvent obsolete antibodies.
That isn't how ADE works.
ADE occurs when viruses have the ability to infect antibody cells. All the antibodies created by the vaccine flow to the site of your viral infection to fight-off the disease; lo and behold, the virus starts attacking the antibodies. As more antibodies flow to the battle, they also get infected and the course of the disease is "enhanced."
Nothing about obsolete antibodies.
I remember a newspaper article from 1978 or 79 that described a US military bio-weapon that attacked the human "killer T-cells" and compromised the immune system. The article was in the science section and entitled "Killer Cell". A few years after reading that this immune disease outbreak happened with homosexuals and IV drug users. Fauci was helping out back then with that novel virus too!
So is ADE like that then?
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Do you find the leaked documents interesting?
I find it interesting many of the pro mask, pro lockdown, pro school closing, pro covid 6 to 8 shot vaccine posters on ATS are increasingly becoming more and more silent.
originally posted by: BigfootNZ
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Do you find the leaked documents interesting?
I find it interesting many of the pro mask, pro lockdown, pro school closing, pro covid 6 to 8 shot vaccine posters on ATS are increasingly becoming more and more silent.
Where going silent because most of us are fed up with the gob smacking stupid around here (its why i left coming to ATS way back in 2012 for a good 8 years) and simply cant be arsed trying to counter argue with you lot. If i wanted to bash my head against a brick wall, i can go outside and do it in the open air...
I and many others have more important things to do with our lives.
Much like the Pigeon and the Chessboard metaphor, im sure your lot will see that as a win and validation in your beliefs... somehow.
Two Different Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE) Risks for SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies
www.frontiersin.org...
Summary
Given past data on multiple SARS-CoV-1 and MERS-CoV vaccine efforts have failed due to ADE in animal models (75, 81), it is reasonable to hypothesize a similar ADE risk for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies and vaccines. ADE risks may be associated with antibody level (which can wane over time after vaccination) and also if the antibodies are derived from prior exposures to other coronaviruses. In addition, ADE with mast cells likely plays a role in MIS-C for infants and possibly older MIS-C and MIS-A patients. While expanded trophism of SARS-CoV-2 represents a possible ADE risk in the subset of COVID-19 patients with disease progression beyond the mild disease stage.
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originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Do you find the leaked documents interesting?
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Debunked in that this would have been clearly visible in any AIDS study made after the vax. AIDS patients are routinely monitored and would act as a canary in a coal mine for situations like this.
I'm not aware of any recorded fall in general immunity in any population in any country that can back this up.
It would be next to impossible to cover up as we'd see an instant uptick in low level infections becoming serious in multiple populations.
Unless someone can find cooberating evidence in other studies then the ops content is clearly fake.
originally posted by: BigfootNZ
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
Do you find the leaked documents interesting?
I find it interesting many of the pro mask, pro lockdown, pro school closing, pro covid 6 to 8 shot vaccine posters on ATS are increasingly becoming more and more silent.
Where going silent because most of us are fed up with the gob smacking stupid around here (its why i left coming to ATS way back in 2012 for a good 8 years) and simply cant be arsed trying to counter argue with you lot. If i wanted to bash my head against a brick wall, i can go outside and do it in the open air...
I and many others have more important things to do with our lives.
Much like the Pigeon and the Chessboard metaphor, im sure your lot will see that as a win and validation in your beliefs... somehow.
Am I wrong? Am I not understanding? If so, set me straight. Seems like the direct link to ADE is found in the aforementioned definition.