Czech Anti Vaxxer Dies After Deliberately Getting Covid

a reply to: ScepticScot

You mean something like this?

]originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

So. All you have is unverified hearsay you choose to believe in faith, and I am not willing to believe in faith.

Where does that leave the thread?

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: ScepticScot

Context matters.

It absolutely does.

In one case we have the statement made by the family.

In the other we had wild unsubstantiated speculation by anonymous posters on a conspiracy site.

Completely different context I agree.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

You mean something like this?

]originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

So. All you have is unverified hearsay you choose to believe in faith, and I am not willing to believe in faith.

Where does that leave the thread?

Totally derailed?

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I am sorry for that.

You are not the one filling out the death certificate though. You are not a coroner and I did not check but I am certain that nobody in that close family is a coroner. You can bring some evidence if someone is any time though.

It's kind of obvious that the coroner report counts and not what some grieving family members grasp at in their moment of despair.

So since when do we rely on hearsay?

Yeah, right. What does her family know? Not being Coroner's and all.

Seriously?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

You mean something like this?

]originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

So. All you have is unverified hearsay you choose to believe in faith, and I am not willing to believe in faith.

Where does that leave the thread?

Do you know what "hearsay" is? Is it direct testimony from her family members?

Or is it wild unsubstantiated guesswork by an anonymous poster on the internet?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Hello.. the original post.

I am guessing she took something for her back pain. A little self medicating? Somehow choked. A little vomit and being a little incapacitated? Wouldn’t be the first time a singer went that way.

Or the back pain was a symptom of something in her body going horrible physically wrong.


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Funny your changing the subject, and ignoring the post in its entirety.

Now.

Quote a cited source she died of covid.

I did. Her son. Not good enough for you?

a reply to: putnam6

That would be a great point if exactly half the population was vaccinated!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Then we are back to what on her actual death certificate.

And…

Now. How does not taking a vaccine lead to wanting to go for a walk, then back pain that makes a person rest, to choking to death?

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Just be cause a biased individual makes a statement doesn’t make it true..

Hana Horka: Czech singer dies after catching Covid intentionally

www.bbc.com...

On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".
Although she was unvaccinated, Jan Rek stressed that his mother did not believe in some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines.

How does choked to death from cited source equal died from covid death cited source?

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And?

People die every day.

People with the Vax die, People without the Vax die.

People that don't wear seat belts die, just the same as those that do.

Same with helmets.

What are you trying to prove here?

Not sure what the OP is trying to prove, but what the media is trying to prove is: If you don't get vaccinated you will die. This person did, so you MUST get vaccinated because EXACTLY what happened to this person will happen to YOU. And it proves that ANY anti-vaxx ideology is evil and terrible!

originally posted by: thebtheb

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And?

People die every day.

People with the Vax die, People without the Vax die.

People that don't wear seat belts die, just the same as those that do.

Same with helmets.

What are you trying to prove here?

Not sure what the OP is trying to prove, but what the media is trying to prove is: If you don't get vaccinated you will die. This person did, so you MUST get vaccinated because EXACTLY what happened to this person will happen to YOU. And it proves that ANY anti-vaxx ideology is evil and terrible!

Wasn't trying to prove anything. Never said any of that. Not paying attention?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Then we are back to what on her actual death certificate.

And…

Now. How does not taking a vaccine lead to wanting to go for a walk, then back pain that makes a person rest, to choking to death?

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Just be cause a biased individual makes a statement doesn’t make it true..

Hana Horka: Czech singer dies after catching Covid intentionally

www.bbc.com...

On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".
Although she was unvaccinated, Jan Rek stressed that his mother did not believe in some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines.

How does choked to death from cited source equal died from covid death cited source?

Biased individual? Her son?

As opposed to you and your risible guesswork?

You told me to get her death certificate directing me to a UK.gov website.

Even though she was a Czech citizen.

Now you are going on about her having back pain and going for a walk?

Like that proves your point?

Flat Earthers have better points than that, and they are bonkers.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I didn’t ask for you to change the subject. I asked you to walk us through the logic of conflicting statements. And how being well enough to go for a walk turns to back pain and then sudden death in 10 minutes from choking equates covid death? Vs death while with covid.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You

Flat Earthers have better points than that, and they are bonkers.

Again, people are willing to lie about covid. And state their reputation on it…

Sotomayor’s false claim that ‘over 100,000’ children are in 'serious condition’ with covid

www.washingtonpost.com...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I didn’t ask for you to change the subject. I asked you to walk us through the logic of conflicting statements. And how being well enough to go for a walk turns to back pain and then sudden death in 10 minutes from choking equates covid death? Vs death while with covid.

So, you asked me for a cited source. I gave you a video interview of her son. Which, unlike your hearsay and quite frankly risible guesswork, is more credible than you.

So, instead of your repeated deflections, what do you have to say about what he actually said in that interview?

originally posted by: thebtheb

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And?

People die every day.

People with the Vax die, People without the Vax die.

People that don't wear seat belts die, just the same as those that do.

Same with helmets.

What are you trying to prove here?

Not sure what the OP is trying to prove, but what the media is trying to prove is: If you don't get vaccinated you will die. This person did, so you MUST get vaccinated because EXACTLY what happened to this person will happen to YOU. And it proves that ANY anti-vaxx ideology is evil and terrible!

You nailed it. And the OP doesn’t want to believe the media and individuals will twist certain points. Even when is conducted by a Supreme Court justice. Who else is willing to lie? That is the question.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You

Flat Earthers have better points than that, and they are bonkers.

Again, people are willing to lie about covid. And state their reputation on it…

Sotomayor’s false claim that ‘over 100,000’ children are in 'serious condition’ with covid

www.washingtonpost.com...

More deflection and whataboutism?

I honestly thought you were better than that.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You

So, instead of your repeated deflections, what do you have to say about what he actually said in that interview?

Not deflecting anything…

Again. Going by a cited source. Who made the statement she choked?

Hana Horka: Czech singer dies after catching Covid intentionally

www.bbc.com...

On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".
Although she was unvaccinated, Jan Rek stressed that his mother did not believe in some of the more bizarre conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines.

How does choked to death from cited source equal died from covid death cited source?

And, now the context.

I asked you to walk us through the logic of conflicting statements. And how being well enough to go for a walk turns to back pain and then sudden death in 10 minutes from choking equates covid death? Vs death while with covid.

a reply to: neutronflux

Errr, ignoring her son's testimony? Again?

Kindly address that.

Please.

Like direct evidence from folk that were actually there and know better than you?

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: thebtheb

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

And?

People die every day.

People with the Vax die, People without the Vax die.

People that don't wear seat belts die, just the same as those that do.

Same with helmets.

What are you trying to prove here?

Not sure what the OP is trying to prove, but what the media is trying to prove is: If you don't get vaccinated you will die. This person did, so you MUST get vaccinated because EXACTLY what happened to this person will happen to YOU. And it proves that ANY anti-vaxx ideology is evil and terrible!

You nailed it. And the OP doesn’t want to believe the media and individuals will twist certain points. Even when is conducted by a Supreme Court justice. Who else is willing to lie? That is the question.

Scuse me? What on Earth does the Supreme Court have to do with my thread?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I am not ignoring what her son said.

Hana Horka: Czech singer dies after catching Covid intentionally
By Ben Tobias
BBC News

On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".

I am quoting her son stating she choked to death.


I am asking you to walk through the logic of how a statement of choking to death that usually indicates an airway being blocked by a foreign object turns to a statement of death by covid. Not death while having covid.

So. I stand by asking you for making sense of this, “ On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death"” and how it equates a statement of death by covid.