Moon Mystery House/ Mystery Hut/ Cube: Secret Buildings in Background of the Photo

a reply to: JamesChessman


The website is a bit slow to load, it takes a little while for pages to load in for me.

Huzzah, I've found out how to post images!

From the main Moon Page:



From the new window clicking the dataset link opens:



You can see in the thumbnail a preview of what the actual image you download will be. As I said, I have been able to download from here, but I am not opening the download, as I don't wish to. It undoubtedly is just the image I'd expect to be downloading, but I am very risk adverse and don't download and open things I don't wish to.

If the site is loading badly for you, maybe try a different browser? It's been OK for me in both firefox and chrome, but it is def slow to load.

I hope that helps!...

originally posted by: Vector J
a reply to: JamesChessman

Sure can!

So go to the Moon Page. Beneath the main picture, you'll see a series of tabs, CE-5, CE-4, CE-3 etc.

Click on CE-4. The first entry there is "Chang'E-4 Landing Camera Level 2A scientific datase". Click on "Click here to get dataset>>".

That will open a new window, where you'll see a series of thumbnails, first one will have a picture thumbnail, the next will say XML, next is a picture thumbnail, the next XML and so on. On one of the picture thumbnail entries (for arguements sake, the first one), you'll see two buttons on the right hand side, one saying Download Now and the other sayin Add to Cart. Click on the Download now and it'll download it for you. No idea what the format is or anything, you'll have t oexplore that yourself.

I can only assume that 'Add to cart' allows you to select a whole series of images and then later download them all at once, but I don;t know, I haven't tried.

I wish I knew how to add pictures here these days, I'd happily show you a series of them highlighting the relevant buttons and stuff. I hope that helps!...

Ok. Your directions got me to download it.

But what is it.

I have this file that my Mac doesn't recognize, and the App Store says that its related application is not available in my region.

So there are still no images to be seen, anywhere.

And I thought your directions were telling me how to find these mythological images. I still have not seen even ONE image, in all these 3 months since the site was first mentioned.

It's almost encouraging that I managed to register to the site, but that's nothing when Apple can't find an application to use the download that you just told me directions to download.

Still... no images anywhere...

originally posted by: Vector J
a reply to: JamesChessman


The website is a bit slow to load, it takes a little while for pages to load in for me.

Huzzah, I've found out how to post images!

From the main Moon Page:

From the new window clicking the dataset link opens:

You can see in the thumbnail a preview of what the actual image you download will be. As I said, I have been able to download from here, but I am not opening the download, as I don't wish to. It undoubtedly is just the image I'd expect to be downloading, but I am very risk adverse and don't download and open things I don't wish to.

If the site is loading badly for you, maybe try a different browser? It's been OK for me in both firefox and chrome, but it is def slow to load.

I hope that helps!...

Ok, to go from here:

The "thumbnails" are not really thumbnails though. Because every one on the webpage, is exactly the same. So no, they're not thumbs / previews of the images. It's the same single, meaningless image, repeated for each listing.

And like I explained in my other post, I downloaded it, and Apple doesn't know how to open it.

So the file is still nothing, even after I've downloaded it!!

a reply to: JamesChessman

So the thumbs are not all the same, I think there are a lot of images that are taken very close in time/position to each other, so the thumbnails just look identical there.

As far as I can tell, the images are in something called PDS format, which is something used by NASA (and clearly other space agencies) for archival purposes and you'd need a viewer. This might be one, but I really don't know.

It does seem you do need some sort of special software to view it. I'm afraid we've reached the end of where I can be of assistance, presumably there are people here who know about PDS files and can assit from here.

All the best!...

a reply to: Vector J

^Actually: I'm pretty sure the thumbs ARE all the same exact image, repeating:




Yo, I still don't know WTF the website is, or any of its contents.

It almost seems like you work for the site, if you look at the last few interactions. I complained that I can't register, then you gave me a new link for a new register option that works. I can't find images so you told me where to look, then told me where to download something, etc.

Your input was actually encouraging a bit, except that in the end, there are still no images to be seen anywhere.









Also, at a second glance, my iMac thinks that the download is a word document.

I opened it and I got a document full of garbage text.

It almost seems fake, the whole website almost seems fake, lol, and almost seems like you're modifying the website as per my complaints, lol.

Not that I really think that's what's happening, but this is all just bizarre, every bit of it.

I mean, it's even bizarre that you said the thumbs aren't all the same. Yes, they ARE all the same repeating image. Bizarre lol.




...Anyway, if Apple doesn't know what to do with the file, then I'm probably not going to be one single random person, who finds some secret method that's unknown by Apple.

Also I guess this is the "format" problem that Monkey and others have been vaguely referring to, including saying that I wouldn't know what to do with it. Well, I don't, but the BIGGER PICTURE is that APPLE and macOS and the App Store, and my iMac etc. don't know what to do with it.

The entire Apple ecosystem, and seemingly the entire internet, doesn't know what to do with it.










...Also, I don't see why you think the download is "PDS format" anyway. My Mac is considering it a word document full of jargon, while the app store / internet is unfamiliar with it.







...Also, I'm sorry but I'm not even convinced that the download is even a real file. My Mac literally opens it as a word doc of garbage text.

I think that's maybe what it is. A word document of garbage text.

Is... everything fake...?!






Am I losing my mind? Or is this just... SPACE... MADNESS!!

a reply to: Vector J

Also, can you please clarify the idea that these downloads are in PDS format?




Asking for a few reasons:

1.) These downloads have a very unusual situation with the ending of each item, having a DIFFERENT ENDING.

^So first of all, why do they have all different endings?





Normally items (like images) would be grouped together with similar items, and they would normally share the same ending.



For example, if you were looking at online image galleries of the most beautiful model ever... then most content that you'd find, would probably be in .jpg format.

Also, each individual gallery or collection of pics, would probably be the same image format. So one gallery will be all .jpg format. If you found a gallery with a different image format, it will still be consistent within the one gallery or collection of images.

^So THAT is what I'm familiar with seeing online.




...So your link has the items' endings all changed, and they almost seem like random letters. I really don't know what I'm looking at, still, after 3 months.







*** How can anyone know what image format these downloads are, and what software to use with them... if their endings appear as random, meaningless letters?


*** Normally the ending would indicate the format, like .jpg or .png.

That does not seem to be the naming convention, used at your link.



*** Plus, none of the items have the ending of .pds.

And when I look up PDS format online: What comes up are images with the ending of .pds.


*** So your link's items never say .pds, and so I don't really see evidence that it's PDS format in the first place.




And everything still seems so phony. Like right here, I'm trying to clarify the image format, because it's not using a normal, standard naming convention (i.e. its ending doesn't indicate its format like normal stuff, such as .jpg, or .png, etc.).

*** I still have not seen a single image in these 3 months that the site has been linked!




*** Also just to be clear: The download is NOT an image, nor a group of images, as far as I can tell. So this is not a problem of "image format," as the downloads are NOT images.

Rather, this is a problem of your links containing what seem to be... garbage items, which are not images, and which are not recognized by any normal programs. With endings that don't identify the file type, and which seems to just make no sense at all.

Regrettably, at this point, the link's items just seem like garbage files.




*** Seeing as how there's no sign that the downloads are PDS format, including their nonsensical endings, we can probably accurately expect that a PDS viewer program, would still NOT be able to display these items.

I'm inclined to conclude at this point, that the lists are indeed garbage files.





Also you linked a PDS viewer that actually SAYS AT YOUR LINK that it doesn't work in macOS... lol!!

So you guys could have almost planned this out this way, that every single step of the way, won't work, lol.

(And then even if I DID get a PDS viewer, the files aren't in PDS format / ending anyway, so it still wouldn't work, lol.)

Also, I'm sure I must have mentioned this earlier, but just to reiterate:

To BEST clarify how many different IMAGES ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE:




...Just do a simple Google Image search (of the "moon mystery hut").




You can see immediately that there are no more than the 3 public images... as I've been saying, for months.



All the results are the same results that they've been, for months now.










^See, it's all just the 3 public images, and then you start getting PhotoShop jokes and memes, like the McDonald's on the moon image, and whatever that other article is saying about ancient Egypt, etc.

As hilarious as it is watching James flapping around blaming everyone else for his inalbilty to understand things, for the benefit of other people who might want to look for themselves, here are some things that are explained quite clearly on China's website.

PDS stands for Planetary Data System.

It is a means of storing images that is universally understood by anyone studying planetary science. It is not a file suffix, nor is there a single method of coding the images involved. China uses several suffixes for its images, depending on the level of processing involved. It's all explained on the Data OVerview pages for each mission on their site.

The filenames James has such difficulty understanding are long, but not difficult. They consist of the mission (eg CE4) the camera (eg PCAM) and the time and date the image was taken. As well as the image itself, there is a second file that contains metadata about the image that allows the right software to know how to deal with it. You need both.

The software James insists does not work on a Mac does. All the download page says is that it won't work on a PowerPC. There is a link there for a mac version.

That said, the software required for these images can be found on China's website, providing you are prepared to actually look for it instead of waiting for someone to do it for you. It's called GRASview, and it's freely available on Resources tab of China's website.

You can use other software, for example QGIS.

Despute James' protestations, there are new images of the mystery rock. Again, it's just a matter of knowing where to look and how to actually put some effort in. It's in the background here in their twitter feed:

twitter.com...

China has looked at the rock, decided it is of no interest and moved on.

You were given all the information you needed. All you needed to do was not spit the dummy out when things didn't get handed to you tied up in a pink ribbon. There is no conspiracy here, the files are not garbage, this is not a website set up by random amateurs. If you don't like China's way of doing things speak to them - you can find contact details on their site.

Oh, and it's jpeg compression.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

watching James flapping around blaming everyone else for his inalbilty to understand things

See you're just blatant dishonesty at this point.

My previous post visually shows that I understand the topic better than your trolling, lol, as I just embedded the very clear results of Google Image Search: the relevant terms.

My embedded pics show that Google says that there are THREE images available.




^
Anyone saying there are more than 3 images publicly available online, you're disagreeing with Google.




It doesn't work to try to pin it on me, as one individual person, anyway. What's important is that: I use the very BEST programs and websites etc. in the world, and it's THEIR input that matters. In this specific case, it's GOOGLE's belief that there are only 3 images available online.






Similarly, that strange Chinese website DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMAGES, regardless if it's really the website of China's space agency, or not.

The Chinese site's lists of unlabeled, unviewable items, which Monkey and others have referred to as images, ARE NOT IMAGES.

The lists of unlabeled, unviewable items, are nothing.

The download from that site, is still nothing. It is not an image. It's not a group of images. It's no images at all, it's absolutely nothing.




Here you are up against not me, as an individual person, lol. You are against APPLE here, you're against macOS, you're against the Mac App Store, etc. because absolutely nothing recognizes the garbage download from the Chinese website.

You're even against file naming conventions, because as I explained previously, the lists of items' endings are seemingly random letters, which don't serve the normal purpose of identifying file type (like .jpg or .png).

So the list items don't even make sense within the normal standards of file types and file naming conventions.

Which leaves the strange question of how to identify a file type of a file, which is not NAMED after its file type, like NORMAL?

Answer: There's no such thing, really. File types are normally ID'd by their ending, like .jpg and .png. That's normal conventions, that's how file types normally work, and there's really no such thing as files with random endings, that are unrecognized by the entire world internet and all the best programs etc.

My conclusion is that the strange download is nothing but a text document, full of garbage text, and they simply added nonsensical endings to a bunch of garbage text docs.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I should embed a screenshot of the stupid garbage text document that you've been referring to as images for 3 months, lol.

Here, it even shows the name on top, so you can see the exact download that it is, from that site:

Also note: This is a word document of garbage text, there are NO images, lol. There's nothing here but a word document of gibberish:

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

...And predictably enough, now you're just misrepresenting everything. You're a thoroughly dishonest conversationalist lol.

here are some things that are explained quite clearly on China's website.

PDS stands for Planetary Data System.

^We've already demonstrated how badly the website functions, aside from the fact of the whole planet having an East/West language gap.

The website isn't really a functional website, so no, nothing is clear on that garbage website.



Besides, I think you're losing track of your criticisms and obnoxiousness, because it wasn't me who suggested PDS format:

It was your friend, suggested the files were PDS format, and he suggested a PDS file viewer. I corrected him why the files are NOT PDS format, and would not work with a PDS program.

So: My input on file types has actually been the most clarity on the issue, in the entire thread.







If you had something MORE to contribute about that, then it should be a positive thing, but then you go on to explain file types and viewers while spraying poison obnoxiousness at everyone and everything. Which suggests that you don't have any real substance, you're all just poison and obnoxiousness. Some people are just like that, and you guys don't seem capable of having any substance, or else really you wouldn't be spraying obnoxiousness everywhere. It seems a mutually-exclusive type of thing.




Also: Let's face it, if you really DO have a NEW contribution about file types and viewers, then you probably just learned of it yourself, today, seeing as how you just posted today, after it's been THREE MONTHS lol.

Anyway, I don't believe you have real genuine input about that. I'll glance more at your input later, as I have real-life obligations to do now, but the fact remains, that you've been claiming 3 months that there are images on that Chinese site, and THERE ARE NO IMAGES.

The VERY BEST THING you could do is embed a screenshot, or an image, that proves the existence of these mythological images that supposedly exist on that trash Chinese website.

Just embed one of the 10,000 new images, and be done with it. You could embed ONE IMAGE and you'd settle the debate, and you'd be outperforming Google, LOL!!

Hmm, I wonder why you won't embed one or two of those 10,000 images you've been claiming to know about.

Because they don't exist.

Prove it by putting an image or two in the thread.

nor is there a single method of coding the images involved. China uses several suffixes for its images, depending on the level of processing involved. It's all explained on the Data OVerview pages for each mission on their site.

The filenames James has such difficulty understanding are long, but not difficult. They consist of the mission (eg CE4) the camera (eg PCAM) and the time and date the image was taken. As well as the image itself, there is a second file that contains metadata about the image that allows the right software to know how to deal with it. You need both.

^I'll look more into all this later, but I really doubt you're saying anything at all.

Why are the images in a nonfunctional format, then, at all? Why aren't they posted on the website in a viewable format?

And: Why can't Google find these images, in a viewable form, and why doesn't the entire internet have even one of these images in a viewable form?

The software James insists does not work on a Mac does. All the download page says is that it won't work on a PowerPC. There is a link there for a mac version.

^You know what, I think we've established that the site is very unreliable trash, in the first place.

Second, that message means that it won't work on macOS (as it's referring to very outdated versions of macOS which are not supported or reliable anymore, plus it's nixing PowerPC).

Third, you didn't even link what webpage you put that little cropped image from, which you should / would IF you were trying to have a CLEAR CONVERSATION. You're obviously not.

FOURTH, you're discussing PDS viewer program that YOU ALREADY SAID WAS THE WRONG PROGRAM. You're blatantly arguing about nothing here. If it's the wrong program, then it doesn't deserve you to discuss it at length like this.

FIFTH, I assume you didn't put the source of the little cropped image, BECAUSE YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE PDS PROGRAM THAT YOU JUST SAID WAS THE WRONG PROGRAM. i.e. you left out the program you're blabbing about, because you know you're wrong to be blabbing about the program you just said was wrong, which leaves your input about it as wrong, and irrelevant, just like you said the PDS program was, itself.

That said, the software required for these images can be found on China's website, providing you are prepared to actually look for it instead of waiting for someone to do it for you.

^It's a garbage website that doesn't work right. There's no such thing as properly using a website that doesn't work properly itself. Hence it doesn't land to insult people for not finding their way around a nonfunctional website.

Despute James' protestations, there are new images of the mystery rock.

I showed Google's Image Search results. It's Google's input that says no, there's not.

Again, it's just a matter of knowing where to look and how to actually put some effort in. It's in the background here in their twitter feed:

"Knowing where to look" is finding random details in random Twitter feeds? Lol, pretty funny, but: Nope.

Besides you've been railing on about the garbage Chinese site for 3 months, so anyone actually following your input would be wading through that trash Chinese website. You've never said anything about random Twitter feeds or your new favorite Twitter feed "China Spaceflight," which doesn't even sound like a real Twitter account anyway LOL!!

It's in the background here in their twitter feed

^I don't see it, whatever vague thing you're referring to, and there's just a black background, so I don't believe that you're really talking about anything at all.

You were given all the information you needed.

Prove there are new images from the Chinese trashy website. Post an image to prove it.

You don't have any images because they don't exist.

Just shut up with all the long-winded nonsense, just post ONE IMAGE AND PROVE IT.

Short of that, you're essentially admitting that your make-believe images don't exist.

Again:

Google says that there are only 3 public images of the Mystery Hut object.



Which would mean that even if the trashy Chinese website really does have 10,000 new images, then Google can't find it, and the whole entire world wide web doesn't know about it.

Nobody knows about it, in the WHOLE WORLD, except a random troll in a forum, sure buddy, lol.






Also I think I can see where your story arc is going here. You won't actually post/ embed any of the 10,000 images, because you don't have any such images, and they don't exist.


So even if I pour my time into chasing around these random ass image programs that you just mentioned, and even if I found every single one, and did every single thing that you said:

Even then, the downloads are still just nothing-garbage, and no matter what I might possibly do, they're never going to change into images, because they're NOT IMAGES.










And THEN, once I've exhausted all the random programs and random ideas that you and your friends can think of making up, to prompt people to waste their time:

Then, after absolutely everything, there will STILL NEVER be more images lol, because they just don't exist (in the public sphere).

And then you and your 2 friends will finally just say, "Ooops! So the garbage downloads really were garbage, and there really never were more than 3 images, oh well, we were just believing the website."

Alright, so we don't need to go through all that, lol. I can foresee the narrative without going through it, lol.








How about just post a few of the 10,000 images to prove that this is a real thing.

Because it's not.

And after 3 months, you're not really making a good case for actually following all your new ideas about software etc. that you just came up with, today. After 3 months.



The best prompt of all would be showing us that you're able to obtain these images yourself.





I can see that you're avoiding that... because it's part of the last chapter of your narrative. You and your two friends will all throw your hands in the air and say, "Hey, we never claimed to actually SEE the images, we were just following the impression of the Chinese site, and we were just arguing about THAT for all these months."

So I can foresee it, we don't need to go through it.




And you know, not to mention that the site doesn't even claim to be providing images, you idiots, lol. The site is offering "data sets" and you are the only ones claiming that there are images involved, lol.

So there's another part of the conclusion of your story. You and your buddies will say, "Woops, it says 'data sets,' and it never says 'images,' oh well."

Yeah thanks but no thanks, for all your fictional nonsense. You guys aren't even that good at the story-telling anyway, lol.










...Just post /embed some of the new 10,000 images, and be done blabbing about it. Thanks.

Also glancing back at the PDS viewer / program:

pds.nasa.gov...

^After glancing again:

Now I'm not even sure anymore, if you were saying that it's the wrong program, as I thought you were saying... or were you just saying that PDS file format is the wrong format, but that link is the right program? If THAT'S what you're saying, then why would PDS file type be the wrong type to use with the PDS viewer / PDS software?

I mean, I'm convinced that you guys are really just trying to CREATE CONFUSION, & waste people's time, so I should probably not waste more time on this specific aspect.

However, if you look up PDS file type, it has the suffix .pds... And it would seem the natural impression that PDS file type goes with PDS software...

But look, OK you made it a confusing mess, and I'll stop wasting my time on your deliberately confusing mess here.






The BEST thing of all would be for you to just post some of the new 10,000 images, yourself, to prove that these images exist, and that you can obtain them & view them, yourself.

THAT is what you should do at this point. You just spent 3 months claiming the existence of thousands of images, and you haven't shown any of them.

Please do.

You would be more compelling with all your nonsense about PDS files and PDS software and blah blah blah.

Also for what it's worth, I just downloaded the NASA PDS software.

pds.nasa.gov...



Drum roll, it doesn't open up right, for me.





Alright, that topic is over: I'm not going to be rocking NASA's PDS software.





Ok, moving on, it's been 3 months. Please post a few of the 10,000 images that you've been claiming.

Because I don't believe that they exist, or that you've seen them, or that you can obtain them, etc.

a reply to: JamesChessman

Jesus Christ... Everybody should stop answering to you. You have all the info and data you need, you just lack the will to accept you were wrong and in some sort of delusion. Google does not list everything present on the web. Some websites make parts of their content uncrawlable by google bots, on purpose. Some websites are completely not listed on google. The same goes with images. Plus, in the case of this website from China's space agency, the images are in raw data, which needs to be decoded with a third party software. Google only lists pictures in its google images section, not data which has to be assembled with a third party software.

You were proved wrong, deal with it. You are only showing us all how crazy you seem to be, which is not to your advantage.

originally posted by: Ook33
a reply to: JamesChessman

Jesus Christ... Everybody should stop answering to you. You have all the info and data you need, you just lack the will to accept you were wrong and in some sort of delusion. Google does not list everything present on the web. Some websites make parts of their content uncrawlable by google bots, on purpose. Some websites are completely not listed on google. The same goes with images. Plus, in the case of this website from China's space agency, the images are in raw data, which needs to be decoded with a third party software. Google only lists pictures in its google images section, not data which has to be assembled with a third party software.

You were proved wrong, deal with it. You are only showing us all how crazy you seem to be, which is not to your advantage.

I'm STILL 100% correct that there are not publicly available images of the Mystery Hut object, beyond the 3 images that turn up in Google Image Search.

That's exactly what it means when you run a Google Image Search, and ONLY those 3 images turn up.



It's absolutely meaningless that people have linked a nonfunctional Chinese website, that doesn't work right, and which contains lists of unviewable items, with random suffixes that don't identify the file type (as per normal file naming conventions), with repeated single images that someone wrongly called different images, and which are therefore definitely not thumbnails, and with downloads of garbage that is unidentifiable by Apple, by macOS, by iMac, by the Mac App Store, etc., and it's all still irrelevant even after the link for a PDS program from NASA that is not made for modern macOS, and to complete everything, I downloaded the PDS program and it won't open properly.

The long and short of it, is that that Chinese website is garbage, and so are its contents, including its downloads, it's all meaningless garbage.

With no bearing on the topic.

Which is that there are 3 publicly available images of the Mystery Hut object.

Plus, in the case of this website from China's space agency, the images are in raw data, which needs to be decoded with a third party software. Google only lists pictures in its google images section, not data which has to be assembled with a third party software.

Well, be that as it may, it doesn't change the fact of only 3 images being available to the public. Which is the main point that the Chinese website garbage was presented as evidence to the contrary. It's not evidence of more than 3 images being available to the public.

Not that there's any evidence that the Chinese website contains images at all, but it's not publicly available images, even if you guys were right that "the images are in raw data, which needs to be decoded with a third party software."

^Well even if that were true, it's still not publicly-available images... even if the problem was that the images are "raw data" that needs "third party software," well it's effectively kept the images hidden from the entire world anyway lol.

The statement doesn't even sound remotely true -- sure, these unviewable listings are "images" that can't be viewed, yeah right, lol.

But if true, well it's locked away from the world, and the BEST thing is to trust the BEST software and BEST companies in the world, to make some sense of it.

Here we have Google being unaware of these imaginary "images," we have everything from Apple being unable to identify the downloads more than a text doc of gibberish text, and the PDS software won't open.

Everything from the Chinese site is 100% irrelevant.




There's also NO evidence that the site even contains images until someone ACTUALLY SHOWS one of the "images" that you guys are swearing that it has.

So far, you guys are swearing that lists on a garbage website must be "images," it's not.

It's functionally NOT images, until someone SHOWS these images.

You were proved wrong, deal with it. You are only showing us all how crazy you seem to be, which is not to your advantage.

So then SHOW US THE IMAGES.

I'm STILL correct that only 3 images of the Mystery Hut object are publicly available. The onus is on one of you guys to SHOW otherwise.

I've been out of town.

I still want to at least conclude the thread with the recap of the substance of the conversation, i.e. the 3 images that were discussed.

Here is... the only ONE image that actually shows the background:

Brightened:






And then the close-up shot, which at first seemed so exciting, turns out to have its background blacked out with MS Paint paint-bucket, it would seem:

Brightened:





And finally, the new THIRD image, seems deliberately to AVOID the background, as much as possible, plus it's all low-resolution (compared to the original 2 images in much higher res).

Still, the edges of the background DO seem to contain forms.


Original:




Brightened and oversaturated, it's amazing that there's so much yellow color in the soil... as if maybe gold, or maybe just yellow sand:

Zoom onto a rock, which is supposedly the Mystery Hut object itself, with no background included:




^Note that the shadow looks cast from a rectangular building, while the rock looks round!

originally posted by: JamesChessman
Finally, in the effort to summarize all relevant images on each page:

Here is what MIGHT be the ONLY other image of this area of the moon. This was posted earlier in the thread, and it seems to show the area we're discussing, complete with mysterious objects, and seemingly even the wall that connects the objects:

This was proven to be rocks. Period.
From the Gaussian processed images on the first days of this "investigation"..
to the actual image once the little wheelbot went back to the scene and all of the crazy analysis in between....

Real image analysts like Bruce Maccabee must be laughing at all that wild crap, when the basics, ..eg "The first tests we use in optical analysis" had it on day one.

a reply to: charlyv

not sure about laughing, i personally want to vomit every time i see this BS of a thread show back up in recent threads like today.

he's either completely delusional or just a f..king troll, there's no way around it. why this thread isn't in a trash bin is beyond me.