Moon Mystery House/ Mystery Hut/ Cube: Secret Buildings in Background of the Photo

Btw I just checked the dates of the first claims of the make-believe image dump.

MonkeySh*t and his buddy first LIED about it here, on Jan. 28th.




So it's March 3rd, today. This means your lies about the image-dump, that doesn't exist, has literally been spanning 3 months, lol, just barely 3 mos. (end of January thru early March.)

So I might, or might not, check back in a month or so. I mean will MonkeySh*t verify his claims if he's given FOUR MONTHS time?

The answer is no, because he's already had 3 months LOL!!

originally posted by: JamesChessman

originally posted by: idusmartias
a reply to: JamesChessman

Your efforts are appreciated but too much is being made of images that do not satisfy my optical nerves. What you see is what you get: fuzzy, over-pixelated images and wishful thinking. We have to wait and hope that superior, clear closeups will make the scene!

I completely agree that we need more images! However, it seems that China has tapped out, on releasing new images... after only publishing a total of THREE images! (That's counting both times that it was a big story in the news; it actually seems like there were more images published, but it's really only 3.)

So unfortunately, we're only left with the ONE image that actually shows the background.



(The posters above CLAIMED that there was a dump of 5,000 pics, but their link was not usable, and for all intents & purposes, they seemed to completely fabricate that claim, and then they both agreed with each other about it, lol. Talk about an INSIGHT into people's intentions, lol!)


...........


Now just for reference, like for anyone new who might be jumping into the thread at this late point, I'll just re-embed the image that we're discussing, the only ONE image that actually shows the background:

Brightened:

And then the close-up shot, which at first seemed so exciting, turns out to have its background blacked out with MS Paint paint-bucket, it would seem:

Brightened:

And finally, the new THIRD image, seems deliberately to AVOID the background, as much as possible, plus it's all low-resolution (compared to the original 2 images in much higher res).

Still, the edges of the background DO seem to contain forms.


Original:

Brightened and oversaturated, it's amazing that there's so much yellow color in the soil... as if maybe gold, or maybe just yellow sand:

Definition of "rover" is a vehicle for exploring the surface of
an extraterrestrial body (such as the moon or Mars)

But for some inexplicable reason this "rover" was not
moved to take a better picture.

Truth vs BS (I prefer truth)

Just to summarize all the substance of the thread, on the new page, here is that supposed close-up shot. It's supposed to be the Mystery Hut itself, except it barely looks like it.

Note the SQUARE SHADOW being WRONGLY cast by the ROUND boulder:

originally posted by: JamesChessman

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
Has the Rover made it there yet ?

The PUBLIC internet has received a total of 3 images.



This is the last one, i.e. the 3rd one, which deliberately avoids showing most of the background:

Brightened & oversaturated, background seems to show vague shapes, and the soil is surprisingly yellow, like gold or yellow sand:

Zoom onto a rock, which is supposedly the Mystery Hut object itself, with no background included:

^Note that the shadow looks cast from a rectangular building, while the rock looks round.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

My you get grumpy without your sleepy time.

You're (pretending that you're) misunderstanding the conversation, lol. The forum must have T&C rules against posting spam, so you're dumping spam all over the thread, and then trying to misrepresent it as "grumpy" that adults are having a conversation, and they're not interested in your spam.

Ya know, this is all a very interesting psychological insight though. If someone feels the need to MISREPRESENT his own conversation, then the person must know that his input was meaningless, correct?

You were given links to thousands (yes thousands, each link I gave you showed a count) of images taken by the yutu-2 rover. I wasn't the first to give you the link, I just elaborated on it...

No, your link is nothing.
It's irrelevent that your buddy / sock account, ALSO pretended that it works; IT DOESN'T WORK.

Now, because the rest of the world didn't spoon feed you quickly enough you throw a hissy fit.

Again, the forum doesn't allow SPAM / garbage links / blatant obvious lies / etc. So I think your issue is with the rules of the forum.

It is not my problem if you're incapable of figuring out which button to click to get the English version of the site

^Ya know how some people pretend to misunderstand their own conversation? Doesn't that mean that they don't have any actual substance in their conversation? I did push English, that was the last couple screenshots I embedded, that you're now pretending to not understand...

how to register to download the freely available data.

^Stop lying, lol, and / or stop pretending that there's any functionality to your linked site.

Your linked site DOES NOT WORK, as you and your friend have presented it, and refused to tell anyone how it actually works, DEFAULT CONCLUSION IS THAT IT DOESN'T WORK.

And like I said before, even IF it was legit, you still just spent THREE MONTHS refusing to tell anyone how to use the site, which still makes your contribution to the thread as essentially the same as lying & posting SPAM, etc.

Simple fact is that not everyone's every waking moment is occupied with wiping your ass - if you didn't get your question answered fast enough, do some legwork of your own.

Spambot just spent THREE MONTHS refusing to explain his link that doesn't work, and then compares THREE MONTHS to wiping his ass, lol. How interesting that your mind is filled with imagery of wiping your ass, lol.

Your site doesn't work, and you've shown no evidence that it actually does work. The site has also shown no evidence that it works.

How do you have THREE MONTHS to post spam, and belligerence, but zero time to ACTUALLY contribute the images to the conversation, that you pretended that you know about?

I knew a compulsive liar when I was a teenager, he pretended that he was going to buy a giant pirate ship and sail the seven seas, and search for treasure, after highschool.
LOL!!

...you have been given working links to images taken by the yutu-2 rover.

^Nope, your links don't work. You really just spent 3 months, i.e. A FOURTH OF A YEAR, pretending that your spam garbage links actually work. They don't.

Posting a screenshot of a page you said you couldn't get to...

^Ahh yes, pretend to not understand the conversation, again. The topic is that:

^YOUR LINKS DON'T WORK.

You've shown no evidence that the site actually works, i.e. leads to any images at all, and the site has not shown any sign that it works, either.

Had you kept a civil tongue in your head people might be more inclined to help you out.

Oh yes, you waited THREE MONTHS, and you "MIGHT" have "helped" if you weren't called out for lying about your spam links, LOL!!

Alright, I'm surprised the MOD'S haven't already banned this spambot, and deleted his lying posts...

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Alright I messaged the MOD's, let's hope they help clear up your SPAM / lies / garbage links etc.

But yo, it's a good time for you to start posting insults against the staff and MOD's of the forum, because they're also going to find your links as SPAM / garbage links / lies, etc.

Hi JamesChessman,

For some reason I can't attach an image (I've not logged into my account for many years, so am not really sure how any more!), but I can see how to register on the site OneBigMonkeyToo has directed you too. If you click the 'login' button, top right on the webpage, you get a little box that allows you to put in your user details, or as in your case, also register - there's a blue button that says Register there.

If you click that, you'll get a new popup window on the page after a few moments that will allow you to enter your details and register on the site.

I hope that helps!...

Finally, in the effort to summarize all relevant images on each page:

Here is what MIGHT be the ONLY other image of this area of the moon. This was posted earlier in the thread, and it seems to show the area we're discussing, complete with mysterious objects, and seemingly even the wall that connects the objects:

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: JamesChessman

The odd thing about the pictures in your last post???

No starfield in the surrounding horizon space background….

Hmmmm🤔

👽🛸🍺

^Well, I agree with you that it's worth considering.

But really this is a separate topic that stands on its own: The eternal, never-ending debate: The lack of stars in various moon photos / astronaut videos. (Which some people believe is proof that the photos / vids are fakes, from an Earth studio.)

Myself, I'm usually mostly-OK with the explanation that bright light shining from the lunar soil, is the reason that the stars don't show up, sometimes (i.e. the bright-light is causing the camera's contrast adjusted for that super-bright light, which therefore loses vision of the stars, which are soft-light).

^And that effect would vary with the varying brightness of sunlight.

So at some point of sunlight dimness, then moon pics should be possible that DO show the stars.

...So I don't usually find it very compelling, when people point out lack of stars, however:





I'm also open to the idea that certain specific photos or videos, certainly COULD HAVE been made on Earth, in a studio.




However, I don't think that ALL moon photos & vids are fake... which would mean that no astronauts EVER really went there, ever at all.




And... I do think that astronauts really DID go to the moon. (And the UFO's and other strange stuff, would be proof that they really did go there. Remember that giant stone snake-head that was posted earlier in the thread?! I should put that with my other thread-summarizing pics.)






So that leaves us with decades of REAL moon photos / videos, including from astronauts on the moon, plus the possible mix-in of fake content from an Earth studio.

So regarding that topic, really the main thing should be pinpointing what content is actually fake... and I don't think anyone has really pinpointed the fake stuff yet. (But also, I don't really spend much time on the topic, so there could be stuff I haven't seen yet.)

Do YOU have any particular moon photos / vids that you consider pinpointed as definite proof that the content is fake?

I think that's what you were getting at, correct?

originally posted by: Vector J
Hi JamesChessman,

For some reason I can't attach an image (I've not logged into my account for many years, so am not really sure how any more!), but I can see how to register on the site OneBigMonkeyToo has directed you too. If you click the 'login' button, top right on the webpage, you get a little box that allows you to put in your user details, or as in your case, also register - there's a blue button that says Register there.

If you click that, you'll get a new popup window on the page after a few moments that will allow you to enter your details and register on the site.

I hope that helps!...

Would you mind telling us a bit more about the site, please?

MonkeySh*t has been trolling the thread, about that site, for 3 months now, lol. He and his friend linked the site, which seems nonfunctional, 3 months ago, and then spent those months refusing to explain how it works.

I asked him for 3 months what the site even is.

He just told me yesterday, after refusing to answer for 1/4th of a year, that the site is supposedly that of the Chinese space agency. Can you confirm that?

Is it really only an email that's needed, to be able to see the 10,000 images that Monkey has been swearing are there? There's no money cost etc.?

Is the site even supposed to be used by random people in the public?






One reason this is so strange is that searching the web for images of the Mystery Hut, there's really only those 3 images, only AFAIK.

So I mean, what, there are 10,000 images there, which don't show up in a Google search? But viewable with just an email?

What's up with the total lack of web presence if there are really any images there, at all? This is so bizarre, lol.

It would seem that almost nobody in the world has really looked at it?

Here's a serious question for everyone here:
"Does anyone wonder if that Chinese rocket might have been used to hit this cube?"

originally posted by: JamesChessman

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: JamesChessman

The odd thing about the pictures in your last post???

No starfield in the surrounding horizon space background….

Hmmmm🤔

👽🛸🍺

^Well, I agree with you that it's worth considering.

Do YOU have any particular moon photos / vids that you consider pinpointed as definite proof that the content is fake?

I think that's what you were getting at, correct?

No, I ……don’t have any particular moon photos / vids that I would definitely say have been faked. I only mentioned what I posted because, I would expect to see the starfield. But as pointed out, there may be factors or conditions of the moons surface that would negate seeing them in a horizon type picture while standing on the surface. Nothing more.

👽🛸🍹

a reply to: JamesChessman

I'm afraid I can only tell you the exact same info as you'd get for looking at it yourself.

This is the english version of the home page

It has an extensive about page Here's the first couple paragraphs:

Lunar and Planet Exploration Program Ground Application System (GRAS), one of the five systems in our nation’s Lunar Exploration Program, is the channel for receiving exploration data from lunar exploration satellites, the managing center during satellite payload operation stage, the center for exploration data processing and managing, and the application and research center carrying out set scientific goals and scientific values. GRAS is also responsible for the unsealing, classification, preparation, storage, sample information management, distribution, use, return and disposal of extraterrestrial samples according to authorization.

GRAS has successfully completed the exploration missions of the first, second and third phases of the lunar exploration program. At present, it is executing the chang'e-4 mission and Tianwen-1 mission.

This is their page with the Moon data. Looks like Only CE-4 and earlier can actually be downloaded (assuming you register). If you look at the page and it's not in english, there is a link top-middle-left that says English that you can click on.

It doesn;t look like anything more than an email address and anme details is required to register and therefore have access, but I'm not personally interested in signing up, so I'm afraid you'll need to register yourself and find out.

According to Nature, in the Data Availability section, yes the website is related to the Chinese National Space Agency:

The Tianwen-1 data used in this work is processed and produced by the Ground Research and Application System (GRAS) of China’s Lunar and Planetary Exploration Program, provided by China National Space Administration (moon.bao.ac.cn...). The data used in this manuscript are available at moon.bao.ac.cn... Datasets generated or analysed during this study are available from the corresponding author upon reasonable request. Source data are provided with this paper.

The images do not appear to be on Google most likely for the fact that they are not hosted in a purely publically accessible format, you need to register and then appear to have free access to them.

I'm unsure why you've not been able to find any of this information yourself in the past 3 months? It took me 10 minutes. If you have been able to register to post on this website, then I can see it being no more challenging to register to that website to get access to the images you've been told about.

I hope that helps!...

originally posted by: Vector J
Hi JamesChessman,

For some reason I can't attach an image (I've not logged into my account for many years, so am not really sure how any more!), but I can see how to register on the site OneBigMonkeyToo has directed you too. If you click the 'login' button, top right on the webpage, you get a little box that allows you to put in your user details, or as in your case, also register - there's a blue button that says Register there.

If you click that, you'll get a new popup window on the page after a few moments that will allow you to enter your details and register on the site.

I hope that helps!...

^You know what, I took a dive, and tried to "register." It didn't work for me. I put in information, and nothing happened when I pressed the button to register.



There's just no effect at all, no error message, nothing.

There's no email sent to my email account, either.

And I tried putting in info in all the boxes. Still no effect when I pressed register.

Well then.








So I guess the story arc here is that Monkey etc. noticed the option to "register," on that website, 3 months ago. And so then they figured that that's enough to claim there was a huge image dump, although inaccessible, on the website.

Indeed, their claimed dump of "images" was the listings of unviewable, unlabeled items, on that site.

Then 3 months of refusing to explain how the site works.

Then someone suggests "register" and that doesn't work.






Well, your story sucks. It starts as meaningless, and it ends as meaningless.






A weird website with lists of unlabeled, unviewable items, is just meaningless.





Even if that site really is from the Chinese space agency, even then, the site is not showing images to the general public, nor letting random people "register" to it.



Why? I have no idea. Maybe the site is meant for people who live in China? But it doesn't matter why, the fact is, that random public CAN'T register, and CAN'T see any images LOL!!

a reply to: JamesChessman

So I just threw on a VPN and had a go myself. I was able to register on the main site just fine. I got a couple of error pop ups when I tired (in Chrome) which were in chineses and I just stuck into google translate. First error was my user name was long enough, second one it didn't like my first throwaway email address with hotmail but was fine with my other at gmail. The I put in the code wrong, oops, but then it was fine.

I tried logging into the Moon page with that info, but it didn't recognise it - weird. So I used the Register button on the Moon page (the first one I told you about) and re-registered there. And boom, I was in. Didn't need to go click anything in my email, I just imeadietly had access. I even downloaded the data set first on the CE-4 page. I didn't open it, immeadietly securely removed it from my PC, as whilst I'm sure it's fine, I don't personally want it on my machine.

So the site works just fine. You might be trying to access it in the wrong browser and so aren't seeing the popups explaining any registration error (in chinese, but just copy and paste into google translate). And it seems the registration on the main page and the Moon page are somehow different, so just register on the Moon page itself.

So please stop saying that the public can't register, as I'm the public, and not in China, and I just registered just fine.

I hope that helps!...

originally posted by: Vector J
a reply to: JamesChessman

I'm afraid I can only tell you the exact same info as you'd get for looking at it yourself.

This is the english version of the home page

It has an extensive about page Here's the first couple paragraphs:

Lunar and Planet Exploration Program Ground Application System (GRAS), one of the five systems in our nation’s Lunar Exploration Program, is the channel for receiving exploration data from lunar exploration satellites, the managing center during satellite payload operation stage, the center for exploration data processing and managing, and the application and research center carrying out set scientific goals and scientific values. GRAS is also responsible for the unsealing, classification, preparation, storage, sample information management, distribution, use, return and disposal of extraterrestrial samples according to authorization.

GRAS has successfully completed the exploration missions of the first, second and third phases of the lunar exploration program. At present, it is executing the chang'e-4 mission and Tianwen-1 mission.

This is their page with the Moon data. Looks like Only CE-4 and earlier can actually be downloaded (assuming you register). If you look at the page and it's not in english, there is a link top-middle-left that says English that you can click on.

It doesn;t look like anything more than an email address and anme details is required to register and therefore have access, but I'm not personally interested in signing up, so I'm afraid you'll need to register yourself and find out.

According to Nature, in the Data Availability section, yes the website is related to the Chinese National Space Agency:

The Tianwen-1 data used in this work is processed and produced by the Ground Research and Application System (GRAS) of China’s Lunar and Planetary Exploration Program, provided by China National Space Administration (moon.bao.ac.cn...). The data used in this manuscript are available at moon.bao.ac.cn... Datasets generated or analysed during this study are available from the corresponding author upon reasonable request. Source data are provided with this paper.

The images do not appear to be on Google most likely for the fact that they are not hosted in a purely publically accessible format, you need to register and then appear to have free access to them.

I'm unsure why you've not been able to find any of this information yourself in the past 3 months? It took me 10 minutes. If you have been able to register to post on this website, then I can see it being no more challenging to register to that website to get access to the images you've been told about.

I hope that helps!...

For your first and second links, I saw those 3 months ago. Strangely their "About" section does NOT identify it with the Chinese Space Agency, or China. Which is why it has not been clear what the website is.

This is their page with the Moon data. Looks like Only CE-4 and earlier can actually be downloaded (assuming you register).

I've seen that page for 3 months, as well. There are no viewable images; there are no functional links.

There is not a real ability to "register" so that is nothing.

Everything is nothing.

Nothing is everything.

All is emptiness.

A jar's empty space is what makes it useful to put things in. Just like the empty cog in the center of a wheel, is what makes it useful.

... but I'm not personally interested in signing up, so I'm afraid you'll need to register yourself and find out.

Well, there's not a real actual choice to "register," so that's what there is to find out.

According to Nature, in the Data Availability section, yes the website is related to the Chinese National Space Agency:

Well, it hardly matters, now that we've established that the general public can't actually use the site. Right?

The images do not appear to be on Google most likely for the fact that they are not hosted in a purely publically accessible format, you need to register and then appear to have free access to them.

Correction: The images don't appear on Google, because THEY'RE NOT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

And no, it's not a matter of "registering" because that's not a real choice on the website.

Let's face it, the website is just a bunch of lists of items that can't be viewed. Garbage.

I'm unsure why you've not been able to find any of this information yourself in the past 3 months? It took me 10 minutes.

^Well you still haven't found anything of any substance or meaning.

I DID find MOST of that, 3 months ago: Their English button, their About page, and their Moon Data page.

Guess what? There are still no images available to the public.




But OK, you linked a Nature article that I hadn't seen, and it seems to associate the site with the Chinese space agency. Yet it's for nothing, now that we know that there's nothing available for the general public, no images at all.



And the answer for why I didn't try to register till just now, is that I didn't know what the site was, at all, up till just now, it was identified as that of China's space agency. Nobody just registers to sites that they can't tell what they are. But again, this is meaningless, now that I DID try to register, and it doesn't actually do anything.

Lameness.

a reply to: JamesChessman


Please see my post directly above yours.

You tried registering on the main page, which I too had trouble with, but was able to succesfully do, as detailed. However that registration didn;t then work over on the Moon page. So I registered on the Moon page, as detailed, and it was absolutely fine and could merrily download a dataset.

So it definitely does work. I can't speak to the content, I'm just trying to help a fellow member get access to something they've been having trouble with...

originally posted by: Vector J
a reply to: JamesChessman

So I just threw on a VPN and had a go myself. I was able to register on the main site just fine. I got a couple of error pop ups when I tired (in Chrome) which were in chineses and I just stuck into google translate. First error was my user name was long enough, second one it didn't like my first throwaway email address with hotmail but was fine with my other at gmail. The I put in the code wrong, oops, but then it was fine.

I tried logging into the Moon page with that info, but it didn't recognise it - weird. So I used the Register button on the Moon page (the first one I told you about) and re-registered there. And boom, I was in. Didn't need to go click anything in my email, I just imeadietly had access. I even downloaded the data set first on the CE-4 page. I didn't open it, immeadietly securely removed it from my PC, as whilst I'm sure it's fine, I don't personally want it on my machine.

So the site works just fine. You might be trying to access it in the wrong browser and so aren't seeing the popups explaining any registration error (in chinese, but just copy and paste into google translate). And it seems the registration on the main page and the Moon page are somehow different, so just register on the Moon page itself.

So please stop saying that the public can't register, as I'm the public, and not in China, and I just registered just fine.

I hope that helps!...

Ok, to my surprise, your link in this quote, DID let me "register," with a different registration form.

So the good news is that the site now tells me, "welcome JamesChessman."



The bad news is that I still can't find any images, which is really the essential topic of conversation.

Did you see the 10,000 new images that don't show up in a normal search engine?

If so, can you take a screenshot and prove that it actually exists?

Can you link EXACTLY where I'm supposed to see images?



I'm now a member of the site, and I still can't find any images...

a reply to: JamesChessman

Sure can!

So go to the Moon Page. Beneath the main picture, you'll see a series of tabs, CE-5, CE-4, CE-3 etc.

Click on CE-4. The first entry there is "Chang'E-4 Landing Camera Level 2A scientific datase". Click on "Click here to get dataset>>".

That will open a new window, where you'll see a series of thumbnails, first one will have a picture thumbnail, the next will say XML, next is a picture thumbnail, the next XML and so on. On one of the picture thumbnail entries (for arguements sake, the first one), you'll see two buttons on the right hand side, one saying Download Now and the other sayin Add to Cart. Click on the Download now and it'll download it for you. No idea what the format is or anything, you'll have t oexplore that yourself.

I can only assume that 'Add to cart' allows you to select a whole series of images and then later download them all at once, but I don;t know, I haven't tried.

I wish I knew how to add pictures here these days, I'd happily show you a series of them highlighting the relevant buttons and stuff. I hope that helps!...

originally posted by: Vector J
a reply to: JamesChessman


Please see my post directly above yours.

You tried registering on the main page, which I too had trouble with, but was able to succesfully do, as detailed. However that registration didn;t then work over on the Moon page. So I registered on the Moon page, as detailed, and it was absolutely fine and could merrily download a dataset.

So it definitely does work. I can't speak to the content, I'm just trying to help a fellow member get access to something they've been having trouble with...

Ok, I just posted that I did manage to "register" but I still can't find any images. I'm actually finding several BLANK webpages, just the background of outerspace, with absolutely no content.



And I don't know what to think about that, except that it has NOT happened for me on any other websites, ever, so it really seems a problem on the website's side.


I also didn't see a choice to download "data sets" but I also don't really just want to download random stuff, I want to see it first, at least.


I'm also not even familiar with the phrase "data set," before now, so Idk if that really means something specific or not.


So here's as far as I've gotten:






Have YOU found images? Can you show us a screenshot or embed some images in the thread?