Stick your jabs right up there, Im not playing anymore!

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Covid guidelines say that they need to refer me to an allergy specialist,

Well yea. Technically, for all intents and purposes, you can't claim you have allergies unless you've been diagnosed with allergies. You can tell your doctor that you have experienced X, Y and Z after having taken A, B and C, and then they'll refer you to an allergist to make your allergy official. But until then, they don't know if it wasn't that fish pie you ate.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shaemac
Why get jabbed at all? Let your natural immunity fight off any virus like your body was designed to do.

But the virus kills almost two out of every 100 that get it. That's just bad advice if there is an alternative.

We need extraordinary proof for an extraordinary claim. What have you got but crickets for us?

In the USA, there have been 52,369,599 total cases. Of those cases, 816,819 have died with COVID-19 as cause of death. So, the case-fatality ratio is (816,819 / 52,369,599) x 100 = 1.5597 %, but this is only in the USA. The CFR for all cases in the world is 1.9248 %, or nearly two deaths out of every hundred.

COVID-19 Dashboard
by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

You still a spouting that foolishness ?
Like a scratched 45 vinyl ?
Doctors and hospitals get PAID for COVID- 19 treatments ....
Free money .
Would you not think some are "fudging" the numbers ?

What if the virus was just a scare ?
What if it is not a cash grab ?
What if the vaccine is a planned natural selection process ?
The ones that cannot think for themselves to be culled ?

( I wish that thought had not come to mind)

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

I have the same stupid situation with my wife and this mRNA idiocy. She has hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, similar to myocarditis, just worse, she already has a pacemaker/fibrilator (ICD) and is on a raft of heart drugs. The jab will kill her, but to get an exemption from the jab, she must take the jab and die, that way she gets an exemption letter. I have talked with the college of physicians and surgeons up here, got a nice little email back saying that the doctors are in charge of giving exemptions as they see necessary, but the idiot health minister got their walking papers from big pharma who says you have to have the jab first to get an exemption. It's one big-ass circle jerk. Here's the email from the retards....

Dear Dave,
Thank you for your email to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario.

The College has not provided a fulsome list of medical conditions that warrant exemption from the COVID-19 vaccination.

The information provided on our website (www.cpso.on.ca...) simply includes examples of situations where a medical exemption may be warranted.

Our expectation would be that physicians use their clinical judgement when assessing a patient and determining if an exemption is warranted.

If you have any further questions about the vaccination requirements, you may wish to reach out to the Ministry of Health or your local Public Health unit.

Sincerely,

Patient and Public Help Centre
College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario
80 College Street | Toronto, Ontario | M5G 2E2
www.cpso.on.ca

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TRUSTED DOCTORS PROVIDING GREAT CARE

All of our media, government, regulatory bodies and health care systems have been compromised and are either going along willingly and getting paid for their treason or they are being extorted.

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

so the report of 73% of new cases being Omicron is wrong?

73% of the cases in a single week (that of the 18 December 2021) are Omicron. That is different than 73 % of all active cases in the US being Omicron. Similarly, if you look at the details, these are estimated values, not the verified values of the two weeks previously.

So, my suspicion is that the 73% value may well be wrong.

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: chr0naut

Listen to you setting all those hoops up for everyone to jump through.

Yeah, nah... I'm not going to dance for the organ grinders. All of you who capitulate, can stay home if you so wish.

I'm not setting up anything. Merely providing a possible reason for the situation the OP finds themselves in.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shaemac
Why get jabbed at all? Let your natural immunity fight off any virus like your body was designed to do.

But the virus kills almost two out of every 100 that get it. That's just bad advice if there is an alternative.

We need extraordinary proof for an extraordinary claim. What have you got but crickets for us?

In the USA, there have been 52,369,599 total cases. Of those cases, 816,819 have died with COVID-19 as cause of death. So, the case-fatality ratio is (816,819 / 52,369,599) x 100 = 1.5597 %, but this is only in the USA. The CFR for all cases in the world is 1.9248 %, or nearly two deaths out of every hundred.

COVID-19 Dashboard
by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

You still a spouting that foolishness ?
Like a scratched 45 vinyl ?
Doctors and hospitals get PAID for COVID- 19 treatments ....
Free money .
Would you not think some are "fudging" the numbers ?

Of course it costs money for hospital beds and resources, and hours of difficult and sometimes dangerous work. In all 1st-world countries, these are the facts of life for medical institutions.

However, in other countries, there are similar population disease numbers, and no payments for COVID-19. Hospitals there are over-stretched and over budget, many are broke trying to just handle normal day-to-day problems, yet COVID-19 case numbers continue to escalate there.

And after two years, with no political/economic reset in sight, nor mass deaths, nor even regime change. You are still sticking to the belief that these are somehow the motivations behind it are some sort of kooky conspiracy that for some reason, can never 'get off the ground' and is always 'just around the corner'.

The whole 'giant conspiracy' fails in every way you try and rationally validate it. The longer you hold to it, the kookier you look.

originally posted by: Gothmog
What if the virus was just a scare ?
What if it is not a cash grab ?
What if the vaccine is a planned natural selection process ?
The ones that cannot think for themselves to be culled ?

( I wish that thought had not come to mind)

What if your brain was really, really small, and you sneezed?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Gothmog
What if the virus was just a scare ?
What if it is not a cash grab ?
What if the vaccine is a planned natural selection process ?
The ones that cannot think for themselves to be culled ?

( I wish that thought had not come to mind)

What if your brain was really, really small, and you sneezed?

Sounds like you have been there .
You tell me.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

so the report of 73% of new cases being Omicron is wrong?

73% of the cases in a single week (that of the 18 December 2021) are Omicron. That is different than 73 % of all active cases in the US being Omicron. Similarly, if you look at the details, these are estimated values, not the verified values of the two weeks previously.

So, my suspicion is that the 73% value may well be wrong.

Yes, the article used the CDC as their source, so I can fully understand your skepticism.
covid.cdc.gov...-proportions

Just know that no matter how derpy you sound, as long as you believe you are right, you are.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: network dude

2%, that's what it says on the worldometers page for world wide infection/death rate.
That's where people get the number.

On the what page did you say? Are they connected to white hats who seek the absolute truth or black hats spinning bs to make us take a vaccine?

Personally, I only know of people dying who had the shot so I am not to happy with this whole scenario so far. I know thousands of people who have had it and maybe 4 who have officially died of covid that I know about at this point in my circle.
ETA

I have been blessed with perhaps too big a pile of friends and family and it is abnormal from other folks I know. It also can be tough out in the world having to stop and talk with people when more people know me well than I do them from the volume issue. It makes me conscious to not be a jerk for sure and that can't be bad to be nice to folks.

originally posted by: Gothmog
What if the virus was just a scare ?
What if it is not a cash grab ?
What if the vaccine is a planned natural selection process ?
The ones that cannot think for themselves to be culled ?

( I wish that thought had not come to mind)

This is what it is. They are culling the herd. Plain as day. We can only do our part to warn people. It is free will to bow down to the tyranny. The Europeans. English, Scots, Welsh, and Irish of centuries past dealing with the Vikings and then the English Crown, the Normans, and so many other tyrannical things are how the USA became setup to prevent that here. They have spent 250 years trying to reclaim their subjects to fleece for taxes. We are almost back in the fold.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

so the report of 73% of new cases being Omicron is wrong?

73% of the cases in a single week (that of the 18 December 2021) are Omicron. That is different than 73 % of all active cases in the US being Omicron. Similarly, if you look at the details, these are estimated values, not the verified values of the two weeks previously.

So, my suspicion is that the 73% value may well be wrong.

Yes, the article used the CDC as their source, so I can fully understand your skepticism.
covid.cdc.gov...-proportions

Just know that no matter how derpy you sound, as long as you believe you are right, you are.

Picking and choosing to ignore facts is the Chrono way!

That one just doesn't want to admit reality. Any thing but reality. Got to be at a tangent to the facts or that one might die from exhaustion.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: network dude

2%, that's what it says on the worldometers page for world wide infection/death rate.
That's where people get the number.

Yes, but that lumps in those most at risk with those that are at very low risk.

Those at very low risk are actually 0.0002% risk of serious illness or death, and that only means they actually have underlying conditions that they were unaware of due to lifelong poor dietary habits, but they just hadn't started experiencing any symptoms yet.

The truly healthy are at ZERO risk of this thing.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Gothmog
What if the virus was just a scare ?
What if it is not a cash grab ?
What if the vaccine is a planned natural selection process ?
The ones that cannot think for themselves to be culled ?

( I wish that thought had not come to mind)

What if your brain was really, really small, and you sneezed?

Sounds like you have been there .
You tell me.

That's the thing about hypotheticals, they aren't real-world situations.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

so the report of 73% of new cases being Omicron is wrong?

73% of the cases in a single week (that of the 18 December 2021) are Omicron. That is different than 73 % of all active cases in the US being Omicron. Similarly, if you look at the details, these are estimated values, not the verified values of the two weeks previously.

So, my suspicion is that the 73% value may well be wrong.

Yes, the article used the CDC as their source, so I can fully understand your skepticism.
covid.cdc.gov...-proportions

Just know that no matter how derpy you sound, as long as you believe you are right, you are.

The CDC site stated that the figures were estimates, not actuals. The fact that you and the NBC article have confused the stated nature of the figures does not in any way impugn the CDC. It says more about comprehension of the data, than anything about the quality of the source.

And, every one of the articles calling the CDC data into doubt, only ever seems to reference CDC data as its ultimate source, and no other. There is no authoritative and credentialled alternative source of data in disagreement ever brought forward.

So, in future, if you wish to dispute the CDC's figures, don't quote only the CDC, because that just makes you look stupid enough to place baseless opinion over empirical evidence. Quote the CDC's data, and also present the authoritative alternative data to show the discrepancy. Then you would have a valid case to argue from.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

so the report of 73% of new cases being Omicron is wrong?

73% of the cases in a single week (that of the 18 December 2021) are Omicron. That is different than 73 % of all active cases in the US being Omicron. Similarly, if you look at the details, these are estimated values, not the verified values of the two weeks previously.

So, my suspicion is that the 73% value may well be wrong.

Yes, the article used the CDC as their source, so I can fully understand your skepticism.
covid.cdc.gov...-proportions

Just know that no matter how derpy you sound, as long as you believe you are right, you are.

The CDC site stated that the figures were estimates, not actuals. The fact that you and the NBC article have confused the stated nature of the figures does not in any way impugn the CDC.

And every one of the articles calling the CDC numbers into doubt, only uses CDC data as its ultimate source. There is no authoritative and credentialled source of data in disagreement ever brought forward.

So, in future, if you wish to dispute the CDC's figures, don't quote only the CDC, because that just makes you look stupid enough to place baseless opinion over empirical evidence. Quote the CDC's data, and also present the authoritative alternative data to show the discrepancy.

Hey Derp, I quoted the #ing NBC article who quoted the CDC. If you are such a damn know it all, call NBC and tell them. You get NBC to print a retraction. till then,

www.cnbc.com...

cdispatch.com...

news.yahoo.com...

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky told reporters Monday that omicron’s rapid spread matches what other countries have seen.

“These new numbers are stark, but they are not surprising,” Walensky said.

www.capitalgazette.com...

nymag.com...

On Monday, the CDC reported that the variant’s share of infections over the past week had jumped almost sixfold, making up 73 percent of new infections as of December 18. In New York — where the pervasive spread of Omicron and anxiety over holiday plans have made hours-long waits at COVID testing facilities standard — the prevalence of the variant is closer to 90 percent of new infections, per the CDC. On Monday, over 15,000 cases were reported in the city, breaking the prior record set the day before by around 3,000 cases.

When trying to be a know it all, it's usually a good idea to know at least a little.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: chr0naut

so the report of 73% of new cases being Omicron is wrong?

73% of the cases in a single week (that of the 18 December 2021) are Omicron. That is different than 73 % of all active cases in the US being Omicron. Similarly, if you look at the details, these are estimated values, not the verified values of the two weeks previously.

So, my suspicion is that the 73% value may well be wrong.

Yes, the article used the CDC as their source, so I can fully understand your skepticism.
covid.cdc.gov...-proportions

Just know that no matter how derpy you sound, as long as you believe you are right, you are.

Picking and choosing to ignore facts is the Chrono way!

That one just doesn't want to admit reality. Any thing but reality. Got to be at a tangent to the facts or that one might die from exhaustion.

LOL, only one set of facts has been presented, that is true.

Present some that disagree with those I have 'cherry picked' and presented.

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: chr0naut

So far in my family of four, only the two who are vaccinated have tested positive for covid. My youngest and I have no symptoms. I'll keep everyone updated so we can at least get some real life data regarding the efficacy of the vaccine.

Kind of funny. In my family of three, I am the only one unvaxxed and the only one to not get Covid. I'm also the oldest at nearly 75, and supposedly "at risk" due to Heart Failure. I was prescribed Ivermectin back in March and have been exposed three times that I know of (twice by family). I remain healthy.