Head Of EU Commission Wants To Ban Nuremberg Code.

a reply to: andy06shake

November 17, 2020, the American Society of Gene + Cell Therapy (ASGCT) announced “COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates Show Gene Therapy Is a Viable Strategy,” noting that:22

“Two COVID-19 vaccine trials, both of which use messenger RNA (or mRNA) technology to teach the body to fight the virus, have reported efficacy over 90 percent.

These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 … demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19.

Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person’s cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body.”



Please discredit that. I added it in the other post because it stood out to me. Is that organization not qualified? You ignored it and attacked the source instead.

a reply to: ArMaP

Well that's the new definition seems words need redefining so often these days to meet the narrative.
source

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

That had been their definition since at least May 16, 2018, according to PJ Media.

But then, come September 1, suddenly there was a big change.

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

same with Pandemic and effectiveness of lockdowns and mask pre covid are all different science results post covid.

a reply to: Imperator2

Again i am not a doctor.

However your mRNA technology has the potential as a method of delivery where gene therapy is concerned.

That does not make the vaccines in anyway gene therapy.

And why, because the vaccines don't alter your genes.

Im not qualified to discredit the above but the facts on those other websites i provided and which you have obviously not bothered your arse to peruse illustrate the fact of the matter rather eloquently.

Web sites that are not touting the use of Ivermectin mind you.

Get back to me when you have extensively read those or when the horse paste wears off, whichever comes first.

a reply to: andy06shake

You need to be a doctor to understand that they are directly referring to the Pfizer and moderns mrna vaccines in Nov 2020? Are you claiming those were different vaccines and not the ones in use?

You have yet to address anything other than discredit the source as a reflection method and make somewhat snarky comments.

Maybe you could put that big amazing brain of yours to use and debunk the ASGCT assertion? If not then there seems to me and my tiny brain the very real possibility that these vaccines are in fact gene therapy.

a reply to: Imperator2

That was a quick read.

Ive just got a normal brain mate but cheers for the off handed compliment.

Ile accept it with the sentiment it deserves.

Your source is a snake oil salesman.

The only place the vaccines are gene therapy are in the paranoid nutters heads.

Same peeps that are afraid of a little prick in the arm and that believe the vaccines make people magnetic.

But hey'ho if you wish to believe a dude that punts dietary supplements and medical devices over real facts you go right ahead.

originally posted by: karl 12

Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID.

Head Of EU Commission Wants To Ban Nuremberg Code.



Truly disturbing development and there's a nice pic below of Ursula last month with Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla.

Historical context:


Despite being hidden away for sixty years the Nuremberg archives can now be accessed free online and there's a thread here dealing with how the original 'big pharma' IG Farben were directly responsible for many of the horrors of WW2.

Nuremberg prosecutor General Telford Taylor also gives this warning from history:

"These IG Farben criminals, not the lunatic Nazi fanatics, are the main war criminals. If the guilt of these criminals is not brought to light and if they are not punished, they will represent a much greater threat to the future peace of the world than Hitler if he were still alive.”

General Telford Taylor.

And evil and totalitarianism rear their horrific maws once again.

Forced medication was part of numerous totalitarian governments in the 20th century, from Nazis to USSR. So, right out the gate, it's a very dangerous move.

This is especially true for a disease that for non-vulnerable groups has a 99.9% survival rate, before vaccination, and for which a huge amount of people have natural immunity now. This isn't the black plague, and yet, they have used propaganda to convince people it is far worse than it is in order I believe to seize power.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: karl 12

I couldn't see here she said that, only that mandatory vaccines should be discussed.

PS: in Portugal we would need a change in the constitution for that to happen.

I think that still happens here in the US, but maybe it's been ended here as well.
My cousin was just regaling us at Thanksgiving dinner about her new sales position for a medical technology firm where she has to wine and dine surgeons 5 nights a week, all paid for by her firm lol.

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: karl 12
Also looks like Ursula's husband has vested interest.

I wouldn't be surprised if she also has some direct interest, as she is also a doctor, so she has probably been part of the doctors/pharmaceuticals relationship in one way or the other.

PS: some years ago there was a change in the rules for doctors here in Portugal when it was found that many doctors prescribed medication only from a few companies, and after an investigation it was confirmed that the companies gave them "small presents", from small things like pens and pencils to two weeks vacations for two in international tourist spots.

They need to create an entire army of zombies to declare war on the Messiah

originally posted by: karl 12
Head Of EU Commission Wants To Ban Nuremberg Code.

Nothing good will come of this. The Code was put in place for a reason.

Other EU countries smile sideways at Britain... are we also thinking B.E. as we know you guys have nothing to say and are probably still grieving the loss of Prince Phillip?

a reply to: Crowfoot
What is B.E.?

Who is 'we' and who is 'you guys'?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

British Exit and paraphrasing

a reply to: Crowfoot
Maybe I could comprehend your post if that Daffy Duck was not so distracting.......your reply to me telling me that BE means British exit did not help.

It matters not.

originally posted by: burntheships
So, she unwittingly admits that the COVID "vaccines"
are still experimental? Hmm...

Anything introduced within the first 3 years is always called experimental.

Not enough physical time has passed to collect data

What does that tell you? They know they are in violation.

a reply to: karl 12

a reply to: andy06shake

So you cannot refute the information presented by the ASGCT so you are choosing instead to discredit and attack the person providing the link to said information?

I will ask again.. why is the ASGCT not a credible source on gene therapies?

Why is the ASGCT not "presenting real facts"?

I think you are following the party line when presented with facts that do not fit your narrative.

Discredit the source, ridicule the source, appeal to authority, deflect and attack.

You remind me of the scarecrow from the wizard of oz, except far less endearing.

Have fun in your delusional echo chamber... trust the science!!!! Unless it doesnt align with the parties approved narrative.... then ignore and discredit the science!!!!

Lol!

originally posted by: Bloodworth

originally posted by: burntheships
So, she unwittingly admits that the COVID "vaccines"
are still experimental? Hmm...

Anything introduced within the first 3 years is always called experimental.

Not enough physical time has passed to collect data

Yes. Given the scale of this injection it demanded far more than even 3 years of study. That benchmark is fine when you are looking for a medication that helps a very small % of the population - totally unacceptable when they are attempting to inject everyone with it.

Dont tell some of the people around here that though... it is super safe and effective! Come get your booster that we said you would not require! Also it doesn't work on any of the new strains but come get it anyway!

originally posted by: Imperator2

These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 … demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19.

Certainly very interesting stuff mate and there's a thread here in which Moderna also admitted their MRNA human technology platform functions like an 'operating system' in a computer - also found the vaccine tech described in this vid rather disturbing.

Gets a bit too technical for me at times but also looks like Gates (along with DARPA) have been extremely busy with the genetic extinction technology known as 'gene drives' and FOIA documents exist which expose the Gates Foundation's attempts to manipulate the U.N.

"Gene drives are a powerful and dangerous new technology and potential biological weapons that could have disastrous impacts on peace, food security and the environment, especially if misused."

Jim Thomas - ETC Group

Gene Drives And The Gates Foundation.

Following on from this vid exploring insane levels of corruption in the FDA.

originally posted by: karl 12

There's also this new vid exploring insane levels of corruption in big pharma and the federal government.