Head Of EU Commission Wants To Ban Nuremberg Code.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I know its murder, one can hardly move with all the dead bodies piled up in the streets and lying around in the hospitals.

On a more serious note.

Worst ive heard of any serious side effects vaccine wise, and thats from medical health trained professionals that work in the field, is some poor sod who developed bell's palsy for a few days afterwards.

But that was not Pfizer but with AstraZeneca.

Im double Pfizer flavoured myself away for my booster on the 14th of this month without any adverse effects other than a sore arm.

Had COVID as well before i was vaccinated so im a happy bunny rabbit ether way.

Anyway its all good mate, after all choice is a fine thing indeed.

originally posted by: marg6043

How about banning her position for conflicts of interest

Fair point Marge and looks like not only is Ursula's husband MD of a US 'gene therapy' Biotech but turns out Russia's Covid commissar Tatyana Golikova's stepson also manufactures the KoviVak vaccine.

Suppose you've got to hand it to the Rockefellers when it comes to 'conflicts of interest' but there's also an article below regarding Bill Gates takeover of the WHO back in the early 1990's.

Apparently extremely serious concerns were raised at the time over 'private steering agendas' and the Gates money serving as a 'Trojan horse'.

WHO shackled: Donor control of the World Health Organisation

Since the 1990s, concern has grown that the integrity and independence of the World Health Organisation (WHO) may be compromised as a result of corporate influence..

• Relevant Articles:

World Health Organization or World Health Corporation?

WHO reform: opening the floodgates to the private sector?

CSOs voice concerns over corporate takeover of WHO

link

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

Ursula von der Leyen's roots

Thanks for posting that DerBeobachter - very interesting read.

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: myselfaswell
The discussion of forcing mandatory experimental injections is exactly the same as saying, how about we sh!tcan the Nuremberg Code. The exact wording is different but the semantics are the same.

It's not the same because the Nuremberg code goes beyond that.

Also, it's related to the definition of "experimental injections". Who decides when a new (in this case) vaccine is experimental or has gone beyond that phase?

That singular part is exactly the same.

Who decides when a new (in this case) vaccine is experimental or has gone beyond that phase?

First off, they're not vaccines, they can be described as an experimental drug, at best, or at worst an experimental gene therapy. Vaccines are not pumped into your arm every 3-6 months.

And the experiment becomes a legitimate treatment when when it's actually been fully tested. I'm in the control group.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: zosimov

These ""experimental"" coronavirus vaccines are highly effective.

The findings suggesting that the Pfizer/BioNtech and Moderna vaccines which are now FDA-approved for emergency use being safe for the most part with the benefits far outweighing any risks.

The vaccine makers will need to apply to the FDA for full approval to continue use after the pandemic if that helps matters.

Nice propaganda line "The benefits outweigh the risks" Is pure BS. The benefits do not outweigh the risks if I say they don't as my own decision to get it or not to get it. Anyone taking a risk doesn't do so at the behest of ANYONE but themselves.

This is more of a social experiment to see how many people will jump on IG Farben's DBA Pfizer's bandwagon which you are obviously stuck on a really long ride.
I'll wait for the next uncorrupted train.

a reply to: myselfaswell

Computer says no on the gene therapy nonsense.

The vaccines that use mRNA technology are not gene therapy because they do not alter your genes.

www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk...
www.webmd.com...
www.reuters.com...

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Naw mate its definitely a vaccine for a worldwide pandemic.

Only thing ive been stuck with thus far are two Pfizer shots in the arm.

No convincing paranoid androids all the same down to the fact that they don't want to be convinced.

Probably not be allowed on that train if your not vaccinated rather soon, so there is that.

a reply to: marg6043

Because of things like that, the prescriptions now state how much each medication may cost and doctors, apparently, have instructions to choose the cheaper medication for that specific situation, which, considering Social Security pays part of most medications' cost (or, in some cases, like cancer and AIDS medications, they pay 100%), is also a cost reduction system for Social Security.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Same as its up to employers whither or not to employ or keep on unvaccinated people.

In Portugal the employers have to keep the unvaccinated, they cannot apply new job regulations retroactively and fire people that do not meet today's rules but met them at the time they signed the contract.

originally posted by: PaladinRoden
They can violate the Constitution all they want as long as no one holds them accountable. A piece of paper doesn't protect you, you and your community upholding your rights protect you.

As the song says, "this is not America" (thankfully).

Knowing what you know now, where do you see yourself in 20 years?

Dead, I don't think I will live up to be 78.

originally posted by: andy06shake

Killing us all with vaccines would be akin to them crapping on their own doorstep and not having anyone to clean it up.

If we're going to speculate about elitist ideologies then would say humans are viewed as becomingly increasingly obsolete and the cult of Malthusian overpopulation is an extremely popular one in high places.

Think this documentary gives a good insight as to why they feel 'zero population growth' is a desirable outcome and after they've managed to monopolize all of the world's resources within an AI framework then who the hell needs all the 'human weeds, useless eaters and reckless breeders' running about being dangerous in large numbers?

If they control all means of production and consumption within a resource based economy then they could end fiat currency (and private ownership) overnight and be far better off with a much reduced global population all enslaved within a digital currency social credit system.

Covert vaccine birth control is nothing new by the way and pops up in reports from over 50 years ago - there's also this type of Fabian eugenicist mindset which gave birth to the London School of Economics.

But the idea of using vaccines as sterilization agents—even without the public's knowledge or consent—is not conspiracy lore, but documentable fact.

In its 1968 annual report (PDF), the Rockefeller Foundation addressed the "Problems of Population," lamenting that "very little work is in progress on immunological methods, such as vaccines, to reduce fertility, and much more research is required if a solution is to be found here."

Bill Gates and the Population Control Grid

a reply to: ArMaP

Believe it or not im happy for them.

I'm just saying what the majority of them will do.

I dont necessarily agree with them and think the vaccines should be a choice.

What about new starts, does the employment contract extend them the same luxury?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: myselfaswell

Computer says no on the gene therapy nonsense.

The vaccines that use mRNA technology are not gene therapy because they do not alter your genes.

www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk...
www.webmd.com...
www.reuters.com...

To be honest, I DON'T CARE what you want to call it.

About 98% of the population don't need it, but if you want to be a participant ..... I'm not going to stop you ...... because I don't care.

a reply to: karl 12

The singularity is in the post karl 12 like it or lump it, cant stop progress.

You should go watch the likes of the show Utopia, it's fiction but right up the nasty vaccine avenue.

Ile try and give the documentary a go later karl 12, im typing with one hand and building Lego with the wean with the other right now.

a reply to: myselfaswell

Well as long as you understand what it's not, that being gene therapy.

As to whither or not you care, that's your own bag of spanners to contend with.

Cheers for your permission all the same.

originally posted by: myselfaswell
First off, they're not vaccines, they can be described as an experimental drug, at best, or at worst an experimental gene therapy. Vaccines are not pumped into your arm every 3-6 months.

Vaccines are not defined by how long they last, they are defined by their intended use.

Vaccines are supposed to create immunity against a disease and to reduce the disease's effects, and that's what the vaccines do.

And the experiment becomes a legitimate treatment when when it's actually been fully tested. I'm in the control group.

And who decides if they are fully tested or not?

originally posted by: andy06shake
What about new starts, does the employment contract extend them the same luxury?

No, new contracts may include a specific clause dedicated to it, but, as far as I know, there hasn't been any case of that. If it happened it was most likely related to health services or schools, where workers already need to have other vaccines to be able to work.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: myselfaswell

Well as long as you understand what it's not, that being gene therapy.

As to whither or not you care, that's your own bag of spanners to contend with.

Cheers for your permission all the same.

treatforlife.com...

I am not able to fully evaluate whether it is or is not gene therapy. It does however appear that some people that are in fact qualified tend to think it is.

I am not sure one can take big pharmas paid editors and journalists at face value. The link above has a doctor talking about how it does in fact meet the definition of gene therapy and not that of a vaccine.

So maybe it isnt as cut and dry as the established media wants us to believe.. like how the vaccines would prevent you from having to wear a mask, getting seriously sick, being hospitalized, dieing etc.. I seem to remember those same sources telling me all of that before.. well.. telling me they were not being truthful about all of that.

Here is a good quote from the article.. makes you wonder...

November 17, 2020, the American Society of Gene + Cell Therapy (ASGCT) announced “COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates Show Gene Therapy Is a Viable Strategy,” noting that:22

“Two COVID-19 vaccine trials, both of which use messenger RNA (or mRNA) technology to teach the body to fight the virus, have reported efficacy over 90 percent.

These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 … demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19.

Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person’s cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body.”

a reply to: Imperator2

Just so you are aware Joseph Michael Mercola is an ""American alternative medicine proponent"". LoL

An osteopathic physician, and internet business personality.

Who markets dietary supplements and medical devices.

He's not an immunologist nor virologist so I'm going to go with its pretty cut and dry that the mRNA vaccines are indeed not gene therapy.

As to your source site "treatforlife.com" check out the recent posts like "How Many People Went to Heaven After Recent Jabs" that's not biased at all.

Plus "NEMIRA" is a veterinarian, also not a doctor, probably sort you out with some Ivermectin paste all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake


You should read the info presented. Attacking the source is not a good tactic. Just discredit what it has to say by using information. If it is wrong then it should be easy to dismantle.

a reply to: Imperator2

I did read it the mans a nutter.

I also googled who he is to be sure.

Can you provide a credible source that proves the mRNA vaccine amounts to gene therapy?

I gave you 3 that suggest to the contrary.

As to me pulling apart or dismantling the disinformation, im not a doctor or a vet for that matter.

Anyhoo good luck with your vet websites your free to choose to believe as you wish.