Is America at the brink of collapsing

a reply to: GeechQuestInfo

Nobody cares about the money supply when velocity is in the tank.

Right, don't worry about the cash on hand burning, we'll print more tomorrow. Sounds completely logical and fiscally responsible.

The fact that demand is outpacing goods, while prices are inflating, tells you everything you need to know.

That less people are working but they still need cash to live? Where is that coming from?

The economy is literally ripping right now and markets are breaking records month after month, but small brains think the sky is falling.

History must be a new thing to you.

There is a reason why this has left people behind. They’re not smart enough to keep up.

Or, they know a bit of history.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: GeechQuestInfo

Keep telling yourself that as the world moves along.

What exactly does that mean? Care to elaborate?

Considering I can collateralize these assets, take the money, compound, and repeat….

Sure, short term if you are in a position to make those investments and of course pay your capital gains tax.

Yeah I’d say wealth creation is at an all time high.

Again, short term or to put it in simple terms, bleeding a dead horse.

The Fed would also agree. I suspect they chart and understand monetary policy a little bit better than most.

What are the Feds rates again currently?

It means Trillions of dollars of wealth has been created.

The Fed didn’t print $30T since Q1 2020, but that is the wealth that has been created at this point.

You can argue that it will be short term gains, and you'd be wrong. Nobody that made money is afraid of any financial turmoil.

There is trillions of dollars in capital (real money) hedging the markets month to month ready to capitalize on any downturn.

SPY drops 5% in September, hedges get cashed and reinvested, SPY hits ATHs every week in October. Rinse and repeat.

Consumer spending on goods is up 20% pre pandemic. People have so much money that the cost of goods are inflating through the roof. The demand is far outstripping supply. There’s demand because there is record wealth wanting to buy.

This isn’t tough.

originally posted by: bayouspirit
a reply to: MDDoxs
Instead of looking out the window, look down the road. The economy will not sustain this behavior. The dollar is inflating. Millions are worried about the mandates. Screwy? Is that what you call it? By the time you open your eyes, it will be too late. The world is going to change, unfortunately not in a positive direction for the free.

Yeah? At this point, the Earth is in turmoil with the plandemic halting commerce in a lot of ways, and the players don't have confidence in any replacements served up that aren't crypto related that the controllers can't manipulate. This happened too fast for the puppet masters to control and we are all stuck with the $ until a true reset.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: GeechQuestInfo

Nobody cares about the money supply when velocity is in the tank.

Right, don't worry about the cash on hand burning, we'll print more tomorrow. Sounds completely logical and fiscally responsible.

The fact that demand is outpacing goods, while prices are inflating, tells you everything you need to know.

That less people are working but they still need cash to live? Where is that coming from?

The economy is literally ripping right now and markets are breaking records month after month, but small brains think the sky is falling.

History must be a new thing to you.

There is a reason why this has left people behind. They’re not smart enough to keep up.

Or, they know a bit of history.

History doesn’t matter in regards to the markets at this point.

As recent as a decade ago the S&P didn’t have:

-3 OpEx days a week
-3X leveraged bearish ETFs
-VIX Derivatives

It’s a completely different market than has ever existed.

Why do you think when the market took a 35% chop in March 2020 it bounced to ATHs within 6 months? The products mention above, which are literally built to continuously send the market higher…

There will be know new Great Depression. You won’t even get a 2008 recession. Smart money understands this, which is why they keep chasing that sweet yield (which crushes inflation) and generating more and more wealth.

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
Markets at all time highs. Wealth creation at all time highs.

Anybody who thinks the country is collapsing probably doesn’t have the requisite skills (see: brain) to take advantage and is just getting left further behind than before.

The majority of those being left behind wouldn’t have a chance if you handed it to them on a silver platter, and the sad truth is that it WAS handed to them on a silver platter.

Someone always lets you have fun under the sun and then the sun burns you.

We all are getting burned by high prices, PERIOD.

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
Markets at all time highs. Wealth creation at all time highs.

Anybody who thinks the country is collapsing probably doesn’t have the requisite skills (see: brain) to take advantage and is just getting left further behind than before.

The majority of those being left behind wouldn’t have a chance if you handed it to them on a silver platter, and the sad truth is that it WAS handed to them on a silver platter.

Someone always lets you have fun under the sun and then the sun burns you.

We all are getting burned by high prices, PERIOD.

Inflation is at what? 5-6%?

Meanwhile, SPY is up 27%.

This doesn’t take a math whiz to figure out…

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
Markets at all time highs. Wealth creation at all time highs.

Anybody who thinks the country is collapsing probably doesn’t have the requisite skills (see: brain) to take advantage and is just getting left further behind than before.

The majority of those being left behind wouldn’t have a chance if you handed it to them on a silver platter, and the sad truth is that it WAS handed to them on a silver platter.

Someone always lets you have fun under the sun and then the sun burns you.

We all are getting burned by high prices, PERIOD.

Inflation is at what? 5-6%?

Meanwhile, SPY is up 27%.

This doesn’t take a math whiz to figure out…

If your Social Security is 11 grand a year and no other income coming in, inflation ( higher prices ) is very real.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: MDDoxs

The only thing that will save you now is a Coup, which removes and replaces the top echelons, since most of the defence force is poisoned I'd say you are #ed.

I think I would rather have a pickup truck than a coup.

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
Markets at all time highs. Wealth creation at all time highs.

Anybody who thinks the country is collapsing probably doesn’t have the requisite skills (see: brain) to take advantage and is just getting left further behind than before.

The majority of those being left behind wouldn’t have a chance if you handed it to them on a silver platter, and the sad truth is that it WAS handed to them on a silver platter.

Someone always lets you have fun under the sun and then the sun burns you.

We all are getting burned by high prices, PERIOD.

Inflation is at what? 5-6%?

Meanwhile, SPY is up 27%.

This doesn’t take a math whiz to figure out…

If your Social Security is 11 grand a year and no other income coming in, inflation ( higher prices ) is very real.

If your social security is $11 grand and you were reliant on that to get by inflation could be 0% and you’re still screwed.

This isn’t tough.

The sky isn’t falling. Literal record wealth being created YOY and the longest bull run this country has ever seen.

If people would lay off the doom porn and quit fearing things that aren’t happening, they could take advantage of what is actually happening.

a reply to: rickymouse

Good one Ricky you can have both if you want.

Race war is already in USA

Immigration war is ongoing...

Progressives and Democrats are destroying the American dream.

Black Monday (stock crash) next year.....5 dollars for gas, homes repossessed, inflation will be worse....

USA HAS FALLEN

a reply to: musicismagic

a reply to: musicismagic

No. All nonsense. Most of America is not buying into any of it. Fed is pushing hard but getting no traction. The whole facade is blowing up. We have over 20% with no car insurance and no DL. Good luck boosting them up every few months. They do not care. Lots of homeless just mething up and stealing, robbing. They do not care. Where I live nobody cares. We have checked out. Police have checked out because they have bigger problems like cartel gangs and murder. Our military is not that big either and their numbers are weak. Can't enforce anything.

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
Markets at all time highs. Wealth creation at all time highs.

Anybody who thinks the country is collapsing probably doesn’t have the requisite skills (see: brain) to take advantage and is just getting left further behind than before.

The majority of those being left behind wouldn’t have a chance if you handed it to them on a silver platter, and the sad truth is that it WAS handed to them on a silver platter.

Not everyone's modus operandi is "take advantage"

Many people are busy doing things that define us as human; caring for children, elderly, creating and sustaining community. Seeing these attributes as lack of requisite skills/brains causing them to be "left behind" comes from a place of privilege that goes hand in hand with corporate control of government that is currently swirling us down the toilet.

There is no stock call.
There is nothing in the bank.
Crypto means nothing soon.
Fed nominees saying you do not need back accounts.
There is no money. It is all gone.

A huge simulation ready to collapse.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Just like the old soviet block, no one gives a crap anymore because they are no longer part of it. "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work" The Russian Federation is looking better each day. Snowden wouldn't come back if you paid him.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: MDDoxs

You're starting to sound like those "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" folks back in late 2007... or Baghdad Bob who swore Baghdad was secure and no American troops were in Iraq while an M1 Abrams tank rolled over a wall behind him.

Nothing to see here, right?

I wonder what happens when you prop up a stock market with 5 trillion dollars of freshly printed dollars.....

Expand the economy?

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: MDDoxs

The only thing that will save you now is a Coup, which removes and replaces the top echelons, since most of the defence force is poisoned I'd say you are #ed.

a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government

So replace our government leadership with unelected unqualified vigilantes until they decide it's safe to leave the white house and let the leaders they approve perform their lawful duties.

You mean like how America did it the first time?

I personally think the American Revolution V 2.0 is past due.

Glad you are on the same page.

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
Markets at all time highs. Wealth creation at all time highs.

Anybody who thinks the country is collapsing probably doesn’t have the requisite skills (see: brain) to take advantage and is just getting left further behind than before.

The majority of those being left behind wouldn’t have a chance if you handed it to them on a silver platter, and the sad truth is that it WAS handed to them on a silver platter.

Someone always lets you have fun under the sun and then the sun burns you.

We all are getting burned by high prices, PERIOD.

Inflation is at what? 5-6%?

Meanwhile, SPY is up 27%.

This doesn’t take a math whiz to figure out…

If your Social Security is 11 grand a year and no other income coming in, inflation ( higher prices ) is very real.

If your social security is $11 grand and you were reliant on that to get by inflation could be 0% and you’re still screwed.

This isn’t tough.

The sky isn’t falling. Literal record wealth being created YOY and the longest bull run this country has ever seen.

If people would lay off the doom porn and quit fearing things that aren’t happening, they could take advantage of what is actually happening.

You do understand what inflation is, right?

Printing more money makes the money not worth as much....

There were plenty of billionaires in the Weimer Republic.

Problem is, it was more cost effective to burn the money than buy wood with it...

/facepalm

a reply to: Lumenari

All the countries in the know are stocking up on precious metals. If Bitcoin was even considered they would buy it. But guess what it is a paper promise.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
So replace our government leadership with unelected unqualified vigilantes

I'd argue that already happened this year. Nothing I have seen has convinced me that Biden was properly elected by the voters and crap like his vaccine mandates and bypassing the Constitution are basically bully pulpit vigilantism.