Minnesota Covid data vaccinated vs unvaccinated

a reply to: sciencelol
Seems my bathroom scale is liberally biased too!

a reply to: ScepticScot

The U.K. was releasing the stat in question every week or two before September. Is that a false statement.

Now there are not. Is that a false statement.

Latest deaths data vaxed verses unvaxed UK

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The UK department of stats has stopped making the graphs I wonder why? eugyppius.substack.com... oRd2haKk2c7Gdff6Jmeu0hdBbzM87PiDbuscU

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

The U.K. was releasing the stat in question every week or two before September. Is that a false statement.

Now there are not. Is that a false statement.

Latest deaths data vaxed verses unvaxed UK

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The UK department of stats has stopped making the graphs I wonder why? eugyppius.substack.com... oRd2haKk2c7Gdff6Jmeu0hdBbzM87PiDbuscU

You mean these numbers?

www.gov.uk...

I would use the ONS numbers as they are based on complete death certificate data.

a reply to: ScepticScot

That doesn’t answer what am asked.

The U.K. was releasing the stat in question every week or two before September. Is that a false statement.

Now there are not. Is that a false statement.

The dates for the data are becoming increasingly “backed” logged. Is that a false statement.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Removed as link not working.

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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

That doesn’t answer what am asked.

The U.K. was releasing the stat in question every week or two before September. Is that a false statement.

Now there are not. Is that a false statement.

The dates for the data are becoming increasingly “backed” logged. Is that a false statement.

It does answer it as the numbers are included up to week 44 (last week).

a reply to: thebtheb
There are only two doctors I routinely trust. My physician and myself. I mostly read these covid posts for some laughs and watch the Bitchute videos shared here for the same reason. I really don't care if people get vaccinated or not. I just hope that my red county doesn't end up going blue, but I am seeing it heading in that direction with my own eyes.

a reply to: ScepticScot

I really hope the vaccine is effective for those who need it.

But who audits and verifies the data?

It’s just strange with the nature and the history of the flu and cold Coronavirus there is all the sudden a “magic bullet” vaccine. Especially when billions of dollars are at stake. And the image of political policy justification is on the line.

It looks like the US mandate for workers is loosing legal ground.

Hopefully it the vaccine will continue to be available for those who want it. And forced vaccination will be shot-down.

Im still waiting to see infected / death rates for those who have CoVid 1 time and 2 times. I've personally had it twice. First when it came to the US and again last January. The first time was like the flu and lasted about 4 days. The second time was a allergy of 1 day.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Minnesota... One of the states in which ballot harvesting is done and even though it is supposedly illegal for one person to "harvest" more than three different people's ballots evidence was found out that people linked to Ilhan Omar were harvesting hundreds to thousands of ballots and the law has done nothing to these individuals or to Ilhan Omar whom was also found out to have married her own brother to illegally get him to the U.S...

Spare us your "oh lookie here, this must be right because it comes from official channels" when Minnesota is a corrupt state to the core...

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

It should be labelled "currently fully vaccinated".

Seems full vaccinated is at most temporary, once you start taking these injections and submit to this nonsense it's a vicious circle of health treatments that will be used as bargaining chips for so called freedom. We're creating totalitarian governments in the name of public safety, using forever changing requirements which eventually lead to total control of the entire populace. In the near future freedoms will involve all sorts of conditions.

I'm past caring, those of us willing to fight are ready for the battle, the minions are a lost cause and wouldn't be effective opposition anyway due to their naïve and pliable character.

If people would just read they could clearly see this plan and strategy has been carefully planned for a long time. This pandemic is not a shock or surprise to me, when you come to understand the mechanisms which shape our society it's easy to see through the charade.

Sure, ill most likely die chained and hooded, buried in some mass grave simply for rejecting lies. However, when i meet my maker i will hold my head high and can truly say i was never a willing slave. I answer to God, not government or tyrants.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04I don’t believe the numbers. Sue me, they say the same # here in Canada while also admitting they have no means track if a patient is vaccinated or not. So I just take these bull# numbers with a huge grain of salt.

I know more sick from the vaccine than I do who have had Covid.

originally posted by: macaronicaesar
a reply to: OccamsRazor04I don’t believe the numbers.

It all depends on how numbers are used.

In the UK, let's compare a three-month period in 2021 to pre-vaccine 2020, a bit of Summer mixed with a bit of Autumn; for example, let's go from 19th July 2021 (so-called 'Freedom Day' in the UK) until 19th October 2021...

In 2020, without vaccines, plus busy parks, beaches, and bizarre government Summer initiatives such as 'Eat Out To Help Out', especially when many believed the pandemic was 'over': 2,731 dead.

In 2021, with vaccines: 10,125 dead.

More than 3.5x higher mortality this year for those three months, irrespective of whether jabbed or non-jabbed. (Naturally, the number of jabbed Covid deaths increased progressively during 2021 from 0% to 80+% because that is pure logic and mathematics.) Have I proved anything with that window of comparison?

Months ago, the UK government boasted that the vaccines have saved 100,000+ lives here, by using data stretching back to January 2021 - which is a patronising, insulting way of selling visions of efficacy, especially by encompassing the last 'Winter massacre' within the calculations (when very few were vaccinated) as fuel to boast about the 'quieter' Spring/Summer period.

Yet on that very point, my own example above p#sses over the Government's attempt.

So, where are we in general? As ever, WINTER is the key to all our questions, or perhaps sooner as a wave from Eastern Europe threatens to hit us, the government warned yesterday. No two winters are identical in pattern, so some scientists worry that any serious spike could last into April/May next year rather than March.

Yet we have had high infections ever since Freedom Day - generally between 30 - 40K daily, on average (we have one fifth of the population of the USA). However, testing is 60% higher than this time last year, so it's when/if infections hit 70 - 80K or higher that we could be in trouble. We shall indeed see...


PS: Northern Austria has today begun a lockdown for the unvaccinated, ie one-third of the population. I'm sure Austria's most famous son would be proud.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Shrugs

When you getting your booster shot?

Dr. Fauci Just Issued This Urgent Warning to Vaccinated People

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On Nov. 12, White House COVID adviser Anthony Fauci, MD, went on The New York Times' podcast The Daily to discuss the current state of the coronavirus in the U.S. According to Fauci, officials are now starting to see some waning immunity against both infection and hospitalization several months after initial vaccination. The infectious disease expert pointed toward incoming data from Israel, which he noted tends to be about a month to a month and a half ahead of us in terms of the outbreak.

"They are seeing a waning of immunity not only against infection but against hospitalization and to some extent death, which is starting to now involve all age groups. It isn't just the elderly," Fauci said. "It's waning to the point that you're seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections, and more and more of those people who are getting breakthrough infections are winding up in the hospital."

a reply to: ScepticScot

As a result of these findings, Fauci warned that vaccinated people should get their booster shot,

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Im over 50 should I get the vax?

originally posted by: Grimbone
Im over 50 should I get the vax?

That should be between you and your doctor.

a reply to: neutronflux

Doc said im healthy and not to get it.

He also told me he would most likely lose his license if people found out that was the advice he has given.

Also mentioned something about not being happy about being force to take the vax to keep his license.

So should I get the vax?

I should also add my job is telling me to get the vax but doc say not too.

Should I get the vax?

originally posted by: Grimbone
I should also add my job is telling me to get the vax but doc say not too.

Should I get the vax?

Perhaps it depends on how much you like your job!

Has the Doctor told you to wait - either for the more traditional vaccines, or for long-term data on the current crop?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: ScepticScot

Shrugs

When you getting your booster shot?

At this rate, every six months (or sooner, dependent on longer-term Booster analyses) for the rest of his bloody life.

However, many are awaiting the 'traditional' vaccine option next year rather than the gene therapy at the heart of mRNA & Viral Vector technology. Novavax, for example, could have higher efficacy and far longer staying power. Or not - but at least it's not Unknown Territory in terms of mass public rollouts, and the long wait could be interpreted as beneficial in the long term. No manipulation of RNA messaging to make the spike protein ourselves; rather take the entire virus itself, neutralise it, and stick it in your arm muscle - not as cheap & quick as the current crop, but that's not the point.

More interestingly, all the current vaccines are pretty rubbish in terms of safety within the grander context of vaccines' long history, and would never attain full approval under normal circumstances. But nobody in authority wants to think about that, and ergo neither will Joe Public.

For example, Astra Zeneca - remember that SOB? The UK was loudly thumping its chest and screaming from the rooftops some ten months ago because it was developed at Oxford... now it is only spoken about in hushed, rather embarrassing tones - "Oh, just dump it on the Africans; nobody else wants it..."