Minnesota Covid data vaccinated vs unvaccinated

The only thing I will do is post data. I won't tell you what it means or doesn't mean, I want you to tell me what you think it means. If you have data you wish to include into the discussion I welcome it. The only thing I ask of you is that you use the same type of format I will use. Don't just put down number of those unvaccinated who got sick, don't just put down how many vaccinated got sick. Be as specific as possible so the data can be given meaning, include vaccinated and unvaccinated, and what percentage of the population they represent. Here's some data to get us started.


www.health.state.mn.us...
Vaccination rates by age group
16-17: 59.88%
18-49: 62.77%
50-64: 74.96%
65+: 85.79%
usafacts.org...

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

For me, it proves that kids and youth don't need to be vaccinated, and that the over 50 crowd should consider it.

I'd like to see more, though. For example, does the "not FULLY vaccinated" include those who have two shots, but before the 11 days after the second shot has passed? Does it include those who got the vaccine late 2020 and are in line for a booster?

I need to know a bit more before drawing any more conclusions.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

It shows that the covid vaccines do prevent the majority of hospitalizations and deaths, but it won't be accepted here since it's not coming from some random dude on Bitchute.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

So basically it's like any other virus .

It is particularly deadly to older/weaker individuals .

What a shocking revelation

originally posted by: zosimov
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

For me, it proves that kids and youth don't need to be vaccinated, and that the over 50 crowd should consider it.

I'd like to see more, though. For example, does the "not FULLY vaccinated" include those who have two shots, but before the 11 days after the second shot has passed? Does it include those who got the vaccine late 2020 and are in line for a booster?

I need to know a bit more before drawing any more conclusions.

Fully vaccinated doesn't begin until 14 days after 2nd shot.

Fully vaccinated doesn't begin until 14 days after 2nd shot.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Lets us not forget the unknown number of Booster shots to come .

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

So nothing to add to the discussion, another shocking revelation. It doesn't seem particularly deadly to the older individuals who got vaccinated, so the only thing I can deduce is you are claiming the vaccine either made them younger or stronger, maybe you can clarify which one you think happened.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Why do you believe the numbers?

Its not like they have a habit of fudging them to fit their agenda at all right?

The numbers are completely faked just like the poll numbers the covid cases and deaths numbers its all bull caca

My first question would be who collected the data? Do they have any skin in the game such as their positions depend on their data? Any monetary benefits like government funding because it seems that is a conflict of interest.

Why? Because a Physician can ask if they have been vaccinated, rule out COVID due to being vaccinated and tell the patient to take meds for fever and get plenty of rest. ( you know, like most people who catch it and are well in 2 or 3 days. How often do you think that happens? I can tell you first hand as a 21 year fireman we’ve told people that from the beginning. When everybody that sneezed thought they were going to die and wanted to go to the ER. So as you can see, that could skew numbers the other way.

It’s all a giant game to these power hungry ass hats, and our current plague of socialist have doubled down so many times on this situation they have no option to go back on their stance.

a reply to: sciencelol

You don't believe anything and have nothing to add, this seems like the wrong thread for you. If you believe the numbers are wrong and have the 'real' numbers with reliable sources I welcome your contribution.

originally posted by: TexasTruth
Why? Because a Physician can ask if they have been vaccinated, rule out COVID due to being vaccinated and tell the patient to take meds for fever and get plenty of rest.

I posted the data for deaths, hospitalization/severe infection is also included. Physicians have no skin in that game. When a patient has any symptoms they will get immediately placed on isolation precautions requiring a negative covid test, sometimes several negatives. Vaccination status also does not enter into it. I know this because I work in a hospital. Can you imagine a whole floor of RN's letting a pt with covid symptoms walk around and being near them without precautions? Laughable.

a reply to: sciencelol

I agree and live in the state of Minnesota. I don't trust anything they say especially with how strong the teacher's union is here to keep pushing the narrative. Anything the state government touches here is a complete disaster from how they first starting rolling out the vaccine to the DMV software fiasco to the VA hospital issues, to them closing down hospitals during the pandemic because they didn't have enough occupants and then complaining that beds were at capacity as it progressed. My trust in them is less than zero.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: sciencelol

You don't believe anything and have nothing to add, this seems like the wrong thread for you. If you believe the numbers are wrong and have the 'real' numbers with reliable sources I welcome your contribution.

I do not believe anything from those liars and I am not sure how anyone still can .

The vaccine does not even reduce the spread so WTF is the point of forcing it on people .

Fact... it does not even reduce the spread so what does it matter to anyone else if I get the shot or not?

If you got it you you are possibly less likely to have severe symptoms nut no less likely to catch it or spread it.

In fact you are more likely to spread it if you have no symptoms

So why push the vax so hard?

a reply to: sciencelol

If your spread reduction is reduced by 0 and death reduction is reduced by 90% is that not a reason to take it?

The vaccine is a bandaid. It does not offer a cure and a way out of pandemic. The only way out is natural immunity. Either you take the vax and then catch the bug, or you don't take the vax and catch the bug.

a reply to: mufuzzballs

Seems like we have a lot of people who want to post .. just not about the actual thread topic.

It doesn't show comorbidities.
It doesn't show whether numbers were entered correctly or truthfully.

Compare those numbers to FL....then the game is on.

Last year, here in Colorado, the Colorado Dept of Health was caught manipulating and falsifying numbers....so were hospitals because they got Federal $$$$ for all the CV patients.

So, sorry, I dont believe the data by government entities or hospitals/doctors that are getting funded by the state/government for having the patients in the first place.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
... I want you to tell me what you think it means...

Since these numbers are per 100,000.

Chance of getting Covid-19 for even the oldest age group during the period: 0.56%

Chance of becoming hospitalized with Covid-19 for even the oldest age group during the period: 0.13%

Chance of dying from Covid-19 for even the oldest age group during the period: 0.03%

For a sense of scale...