Why Does Biological, Organic Life Exist in a Universe that is Inorganic ?

a reply to: Phantom423

Prove it. What is the equation for the perfect mathematical formula?

My guess what ever the numbers might be used to represent.

The equasion would likely consist of sound vibration in water
producing light.

a reply to: Grenade

Isaac Newton wrote the Principia and developed the calculus. Have you read it? I have. Can't find a single mention or equation that includes a miracle or supernatural process. If you find one, please upload it.

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: Phantom423

Prove it. What is the equation for the perfect mathematical formula?

My guess what ever the numbers might be used to represent.

The equasion would likely consist of sound vibration in water
producing light.

Well if your supernatural creature is composed of water or sound waves, then point to an experiment that demonstrates that. If you can't, then it's speculation and guesswork.

No evidence = no science

a reply to: Phantom423

“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.”

a reply to: whereislogic


His comments on abiogenesis were his opinion. They were not based on observation. The Origin of the Species describing the progression of evolution throughout the kingdoms on this planet were made based on his observations.

a reply to: Phantom423

I'll let you google Isaac Newton and Eugenics before you go too far down that path.

a reply to: Phantom423

Well if your supernatural creature is composed of water or sound waves, then point to an experiment that demonstrates that. If you can't, then it's speculation and guesswork.

Hey you're the one with all the life creating equasions.

You show me just one amigo?

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Phantom423

“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.”

Where's the evidence for the "who"? There is none.

Gravity does not explain the motion of planets. Orbital mechanics as developed by Kepler does.

Kepler noticed that an imaginary line drawn from a planet to the Sun swept out an equal area of space in equal times, regardless of where the planet was in its orbit. If you draw a triangle out from the Sun to a planet’s position at one point in time and its position at a fixed time later—say, 5 hours, or 2 days—the area of that triangle is always the same, anywhere in the orbit. For all these triangles to have the same area, the planet must move more quickly when it is near the Sun, but more slowly when it is farthest from the Sun.

This discovery (which became Kepler’s second law of orbital motion) led to the realization of what became Kepler’s first law: that the planets move in an ellipse (a squashed circle) with the Sun at one focus point, offset from the center.

And you have a degree in chemistry? You would have had to take physics and mathematics i.e. calculus as well to obtain that degree. You must have missed some classes......................

a reply to: Phantom423

You asked about the beliefs of Newton, not Kepler.

Since we mentioned him have this quote to chew on:

"The wisdom of the Lord is infinite as are also His glory and His power. Ye heavens, sing His praises; sun, moon, and planets, glorify Him in your ineffable language! Praise Him, celestial harmonies, and all ye who can comprehend them! And thou, my soul, praise thy Creator!"

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: Phantom423

Well if your supernatural creature is composed of water or sound waves, then point to an experiment that demonstrates that. If you can't, then it's speculation and guesswork.

Hey you're the one with all the life creating equasions.

You show me just one amigo?

I posted screenshots of the equations. You figure it out.

a reply to: Phantom423

I never claimed to have a degree in Chemistry.

The scholars you quote to disprove God all believed in him.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Phantom423

You asked about the beliefs of Newton, not Kepler.

Since we mentioned him have this quote to chew on:

"The wisdom of the Lord is infinite as are also His glory and His power. Ye heavens, sing His praises; sun, moon, and planets, glorify Him in your ineffable language! Praise Him, celestial harmonies, and all ye who can comprehend them! And thou, my soul, praise thy Creator!"

And the motion of planets was discovered by KEPLER, not NEWTON. Your quote reflects his religious beliefs which has nothing to do with the science.

This is why you people are ignorant.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Phantom423

I never claimed to have a degree in Chemistry.

The scholars you quote to disprove God all believed in him.

Really? How about this:

a reply to: Phantom423

I do, and i'd say co-op has a better understanding than myself.

That was in response to my post to Xtrozero:

posted on Jun, 11 2023 @ 11:22 AMlink edit quote reply

He is a liar. He has no degree in any science

a reply to: Xtrozero

And it doesn't matter what scholars, scientists or the kitchen help think. Good science requires evidence. And you ain't got none.

a reply to: Phantom423

Analysis and replication are hardly the same thing. Observing a process and re-creating it is the very crux of this argument.

a reply to: Phantom423

You referenced co-op having a "scientific degree" which i hold in the form of a BSc.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Phantom423

I never claimed to have a degree in Chemistry.

The scholars you quote to disprove God all believed in him.

I never tried to prove or disprove a god or any supernatural creature. I have no evidence for or against the existence
of supernatural creatures. No evidence = no science.

a reply to: Phantom423

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You're entitled to a stagnant and rigid opinion on the current scientific principles. However, science only ever catches up to the pioneers who can see beyond what's already known and understood.

a reply to: Phantom423

Provide me direct measurable evidence for the existence of Gravity or Evolution. They're called theory for a reason.

I'll wait for you to capture me a Graviton.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Phantom423

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You're entitled to a stagnant and rigid opinion on the current scientific principles. However, science only ever catches up to the pioneers who can see beyond what's already known and understood.

Science grows based on evidence. There's no rigid opinion here. There's a lack of evidence. No evidence = no science.
You're free to believe whatever you want about supernatural creatures. I have no opinion on their existence because THERE'S NO EVIDENCE.

a reply to: Phantom423

Again, it's a fictitious force, much like Gravity or Evolution, indirectly referenced and inferred by logic. Design is intelligent IMO, i've never seen an entropic system show any ability to evolve or adapt naturally so must conclude the origins are something other than chaos.