The Fight for Election Integrity Continues -- Audits, Criminal Investigations, Legislative Reform

a reply to: carewemust

Thanks, Care. I've been reading/skimming it. And oh dear lordy. I know some say the best defense is a good offense, but they just sound like a bunch of butthurt crybaby teenagers. I don't know if they understand that their churlishness and disrespect is also taken personally by every voter that expects elected officials to serve the needs of the people with respect and professionalism.

I'll keep reading, and find what actual facts and relevant info there is, but I sure won't enjoy it!

originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: Boadicea

The Orange County Register wants me to pay to read their bogus AP story.

Ugh! If that's the case, not worth the effort. Most of their "gaping holes" were just more hypotheticals.

During a recent interview, True the Vote claimed to had just found, amongst their data, the video footage from the Philadelphia tabulation center. I'm pretty sure that there wasn't any time to include any of that into the movie, but I'm guessing that the footage is just as juicy as what came out of Fulton county Georgia.

Very interesting. I was a little disappointed they didn't have any dropbox video footage from Pennsylvania, where one County DA admitted that it happened in their county, that it was caught on camera, but that they would not prosecute anyone.

Lehigh County DA: 'Likely hundreds of instances' where people deposited more than 1 ballot into drop boxes for Nov. 2021 election

It will be interesting to see what -- if anything -- they have from the tabulation center.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Boadicea

Something you may be interestes in Boad.

Link

Definitely interested -- thank you!

originally posted by: Boadicea
Good morning all! First on my agenda this morning is a heads up for seeing 2000 Mules, which officially "opens" this weekend, although there have been a few pre-screenings already. It appears that there will be no more theater showings, but there are other ways to see it.

For starters, there will be a virtual premiere Saturday, the 7th, at 8:00 p.m. EDT, and you can purchase "tickets" here:

2000 Mules Virtual Premiere Tickets
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You may also purchase a DVD to watch (and have for future reference):

2000 Mules DVD
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There are also various groups which are holding private screenings, usually for a small donation. I found these two by searching "where to see 2000 Mules in Phoenix":

2000 Mules, Retrospective

Arizona: 2,000 Mules with Dinesh D'Souza hosted by Turning Point Action

Many organizers are announcing their viewings on Eventbrite, so you might do a search there for your area as well.
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The AP has already published an article to "debunk" the movie:

Fact check: Gaping holes in election fraud claims of ‘2000 Mules’ movie

The article generally points out that the movie and evidence does not conclusively prove anything, which is true, and that not all suspected/accused "mules" may actually be guilty as suspected/accused, which may also be true. However, there is nothing in the article which actually disproves the movie's claims either.

In my seldom humble opinion, I expect that not all suspicious activity is actually nefarious or criminal, but that much (if not most) is genuinely nefarious and/or criminal.

The Gateway Pundit has stated that --

The evidence from the investigation will be released this month.

That may or may not be more conclusive. I don't know. We'll have to see what they've got...

5.5.2022

President Trump is showing the "2000 Mules" video at his PA rally tomorrow.

Source: gettr.com...

-and-

He showed the movie at Mar-a-Lago to special guests: gettr.com...

I'm going to have to see it myself. The movie must be about more than the simple "drop box" sting I thought it was.

a reply to: carewemust

It's certainly intriguing -- that's for sure!

But I think I'll wait until I read some reviews and know what's actually in it... and if the evidence is released, and if it is all that it's cracked up to be. And then, if it's worth it, I may just get the DVD.

Don't wanna be Debbie Downer, but I'm prepared to be disappointed.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: JinMI

I think they've had some other incidents like that here in Michigan. This one below occurred in Northern Michigan as well, although arrests have been made.

The AG Nessell received information which now led to this newer investigation.

The arrest occurred in February in this case below:

A local computer technician says he had no prior connection to Tera Jackson when she asked him — without authorization — to meet with a Cross Village Township official last year and retrieve data from a voting tabulator.

Jackson, 56 from Petoskey, is now facing charges of common law fraud and two counts of aiding and abetting the unauthorized access of a computer for her involvement in the incident, which took place in mid-January last year. When Coveyou arrived at the Cross Village Township hall with township officials, it looked like someone had already tried to break in, he said.

The affidavit said Jackson believed there was widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and that she had been tasked with the assignment of retrieving the information stored on Cross Village Township’s machine. The sheriff’s department investigation determined that not to be the case, according to the affidavit.

Petoskey News

Sounds like what happened to Tina Peters. That Jackson was likely trying but o get a copy of the election data either before or after possible manipulation, like we saw in Mesa county with the Dominion "trusted build" that erased election data that is legally required to be maintained for 22 months.

I'm sick of hearing about people who are trying to do the right things by trying expose a potentially huge crime which completely undermines democracy, coming under investigation themselves. My only hope is that the truth will eventually come out and justice will be served.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: carewemust

It's certainly intriguing -- that's for sure!

But I think I'll wait until I read some reviews and know what's actually in it... and if the evidence is released, and if it is all that it's cracked up to be. And then, if it's worth it, I may just get the DVD.

Don't wanna be Debbie Downer, but I'm prepared to be disappointed.

I haven't seen or previewed the 2,000 Mules video either.

As far as I'm concerned, most Americans now understand there's no way Joe Biden could have won legitimately, and certainly not with more votes than the record-holder Barack Obama got!

More evidence merely increases their confidence that their belief is on-target.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: carewemust

It's certainly intriguing -- that's for sure!

But I think I'll wait until I read some reviews and know what's actually in it... and if the evidence is released, and if it is all that it's cracked up to be. And then, if it's worth it, I may just get the DVD.

Don't wanna be Debbie Downer, but I'm prepared to be disappointed.

I haven't seen or previewed the 2,000 Mules video either.

As far as I'm concerned, most Americans now understand there's no way Joe Biden could have won legitimately, and certainly not with more votes than the record-holder Barack Obama got!

More evidence merely increases their confidence that their belief is on-target.

Watched it

It is the single most poo ridden bit of film I have ever seen. They make assumptions based not in evidence of what didi happen but what could have happened, and never actually make the case that it was a fact. It's tough that the "Big Lie" (Big Lie by the way is an old WW2 term for the bigger the lie the more readily people will believe it in this case, election fraud) will eat it right up and start using it as their bible.

Fact check everyone: So far no investigation has created any actionable proof of fraud.

That information is readily available on PACER with all of the thrown out cases. Simply stating it over and over does not make it true. Making a movie with he same lies does not make it true. Heck I could make a movie callout 2000 hiccups and claim all sorts of things, if I take lots of stuff out of context and talk to the craziest of the crazy and yell a lot then people would think it's real.

so I state again. As of today, Mothers Day 2022 THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE INVESTIGATION THAT HAS CREATED AN ACTIONABLE COURT CASE.

Time maybe to start to look at the guy that statrted the "Big Lie" and wonder if he isn't lying to get money out of everyone...

a reply to: vkey08

So doubt will continue to be instilled, and hope given, that Americans did not turn out in record numbers to put a man with dementia in the white house.

Excellent!

a reply to: vkey08

Most of the "thrown out" cases were framed for just that on purpose. Now most people auto-believe there was no fraud and the "accused" never had to disprove a thing. Just like all those fake Obama birth certificate cases. 🥥

originally posted by: vkey08

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: carewemust

It's certainly intriguing -- that's for sure!

But I think I'll wait until I read some reviews and know what's actually in it... and if the evidence is released, and if it is all that it's cracked up to be. And then, if it's worth it, I may just get the DVD.

Don't wanna be Debbie Downer, but I'm prepared to be disappointed.

I haven't seen or previewed the 2,000 Mules video either.

As far as I'm concerned, most Americans now understand there's no way Joe Biden could have won legitimately, and certainly not with more votes than the record-holder Barack Obama got!

More evidence merely increases their confidence that their belief is on-target.

Watched it

It is the single most poo ridden bit of film I have ever seen. They make assumptions based not in evidence of what didi happen but what could have happened, and never actually make the case that it was a fact. It's tough that the "Big Lie" (Big Lie by the way is an old WW2 term for the bigger the lie the more readily people will believe it in this case, election fraud) will eat it right up and start using it as their bible.

Fact check everyone: So far no investigation has created any actionable proof of fraud.

That information is readily available on PACER with all of the thrown out cases. Simply stating it over and over does not make it true. Making a movie with he same lies does not make it true. Heck I could make a movie callout 2000 hiccups and claim all sorts of things, if I take lots of stuff out of context and talk to the craziest of the crazy and yell a lot then people would think it's real.

so I state again. As of today, Mothers Day 2022 THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE INVESTIGATION THAT HAS CREATED AN ACTIONABLE COURT CASE.

Time maybe to start to look at the guy that statrted the "Big Lie" and wonder if he isn't lying to get money out of everyone...

how many court cases were filed using the data from the documentary?

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: carewemust

It's certainly intriguing -- that's for sure!

But I think I'll wait until I read some reviews and know what's actually in it... and if the evidence is released, and if it is all that it's cracked up to be. And then, if it's worth it, I may just get the DVD.

Don't wanna be Debbie Downer, but I'm prepared to be disappointed.

link

it's free.

a reply to: network dude

Thank you so much!!! I'm going to pick up a special dinner for myself and then enjoy them together! At least I hope I enjoy them both...

I've watched "2,000 Mules" (thanks, again Network Dude!) and that was quite compelling indeed! Especially because True the Vote is promising to release their evidence -- all of it -- very soon. They have made some mighty big claims, and they can either back it up or they cannot.

I expected this to be far more partisan than it is, which was a pleasant surprise. Dems were focused on moreso, but given the "winner," that was to be expected. But there were a few times they pointed out where the Pubs have acted questionably or suspiciously (including no action at all!). They also speak to a whistleblower (kept anonymous), who was hired by the National Republican Senate Committee to watch drop boxes in Georgia in the runoff election, who documented and reported suspicious and possibly fraudulent criminal behavior back to the NRSC, and nothing was done about it.

Regarding the ballot dropbox surveillance footage, it's important to note (and they did) that documenting illegal ballot trafficking, and even knowing exactly how many ballots were illegally trafficked, that we do not and cannot know if those ballots were marked for Biden or Trump. We can make informed and educated guesses, but we cannot know. So anyone saying that this does not prove Trump won is correct.

However, it also proves that we do not and cannot know Biden honestly won either. The number of suspect trafficked ballots far exceeds Biden's winning margin. And this doesn't take into account other suspected and reported fraud, such as the nursing home fraud investigated and reported by law enforcement in Wisconsin, adding even more fraudulent ballots to the count.

Regarding the numbers they cited, based upon limited and specific criteria including tracking multiple visits to both dropboxes and "stash houses" by individuals, and combined with actual video of dropboxes:

Projections based on averages of the specific criteria used, including visits to at least ten different dropboxes:

Overall: 2000 mules x 38 drop box visits x 5 illegal ballots each = 380,000 illegal votes

• Michigan: 500 mules x 50 drop box visits x 5 illegal ballots = 125,000 illegal votes
  
• Wisconsin: 100 mules x 28 drop box visits x 5 illegal ballots = 14,000 illegal votes
  
• Pennsylvania: 1100 mules x 50 drop box visits x 5 illegal ballots = 275,000 illegal votes
  
• Georgia: 250 mules x 24 drop box visits x 5 illegal ballots = 30,000 illegal votes
  
• Arizona: 200 mules x 20 drop box visits x 5 illegal ballots = 20,000 illegal votes

They also provided numbers for alternate criteria.

Catherine Englebrecht(sp?) of True the Vote stated that one of the mules shown was tracked and documented traveling to 5 different organizations ("stash houses") and 27 drop boxes across 6 counties in one night. She also stated that he was not the only one, that they had many such examples.

It will be interesting when/if they release their evidence. I think they may have a surprise in store... something else up their sleeve.

a reply to: Boadicea

TTV is saying they are going to release all the addresses of the ballot stash houses.
Should get interesting...very quickly.

a reply to: IAMTAT

That's a good start. Real good!

Just in time for the primaries.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: IAMTAT

That's a good start. Real good!

Just in time for the primaries.

...add a fair Twitter back into the mix too.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the changes take place soon enough... Musk doesn't officially take charge for a few months. I know Mike Lindell signed up again and was banned within a few hours for violating a previous ban, so we can't count on Twitter yet. But I do agree that a Twitter with free and fair speech again will be a huge boost for election integrity and pretty much everything.

It occurs to me that when/if all the evidence is released, it will necessarily include all the dropbox video footage, not just the footage shown in the documentary. I'm assuming that the cellphone data they bought included the identities of the mules, yes? I'm wondering if they can and/or will publicly release all of the identities... I would think someone could take them to court to stop them, but only the guilty would have standing in court... and that wouldn't end well for the guilty either...

LOL at myself... I found another page with notes from watching the 2,000 Mules docu last night. I'll just note a couple things.

First, they noted that on a certain date, they noticed that the mules were wearing gloves as they dropped the ballots into dropboxes. Something they had not done previously. At some point they realized that the use of gloves began the day after ballot trafficking arrests were made in San Luis, AZ, in which fingerprints on the ballots helped to identify the arrested traffickers. It also seems that the mule they've mentioned cooperating with them is from this case in San Luis. Or at least one of many mules cooperating with them. There have been indications there are more, but nothing clear.

Two indicted for ballot harvesting in Yuma County

San Luis Woman Facing Additional Ballot Abuse Charges

Second, the documentary gave an example in Gwinnett County of one dropbox having 1,962 ballots dropped off (according to the official collection documentation), but official video surveillance shows only 271 people visited that dropbox in the preceding 25 hours. Doing the math, this averages to 7+ ballots per person. It is illegal in George for anyone to drop off ballots for anyone else. Even if we consider (and excuse) some voters for dropping off their spouse's ballot as well, or their parents, or whatever, that still doesn't account for the excessive number of ballots.

This can be easily proven... or disproven... with official video and documentation. And it goes without saying that it should have been a long long time ago!

And just FYI: Pattypan squash is yum yum yummy on the grill!!!

a reply to: Boadicea

I assume all those time-stamped photos of the drop boxes...the mules took, in order to get paid...still exist in a cloud somewhere.