The Fight for Election Integrity Continues -- Audits, Criminal Investigations, Legislative Reform

a reply to: CombatMosquito

Yes -- sounds like we're on the same page! Although I may spoil it with what I'm about to say...

Dems are masters at fear mongering, but Pubs did little to nothing to reassure or assuage fears. They often made it worse.

With the exception of the election integrity candidates, Pubs offered nothing to vote for. Unfortunately, the election integrity candidates were successfully painted as MAGA candidates, and it became all about Trump and not election integrity.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: CombatMosquito

Yes -- sounds like we're on the same page! Although I may spoil it with what I'm about to say...

Dems are masters at fear mongering, but Pubs did little to nothing to reassure or assuage fears. They often made it worse.

With the exception of the election integrity candidates, Pubs offered nothing to vote for. Unfortunately, the election integrity candidates were successfully painted as MAGA candidates, and it became all about Trump and not election integrity.

I agree with all of that 100%.

a reply to: CombatMosquito

Whew!

Then we're still on the same page...

Nothing new from Kari's Twitter this morning... just retweeted messages to check if your ballot was counted or needs curing; and if it does need curing, how to do so.

Not much new to post this morning. Just this:

VIDEO MONTAGE: Dozens of Arizona Republican Voters Describe How Ballots Were Not Counted, Ballots Were Tossed in a Box, and People Were Not Allowed in to Vote (VIDEO) -- www.thegatewaypundit.com... owed-vote-video/

Both voters and poll workers give their experience on Election Day. The last lady was a poll worker and states that at the close of voting, the machines had recorded more votes than the actual number of ballots handed out. How does that happen? Preloaded votes?

There is a scenario at play that I have been watching since the Supreme Court ruling for States rights over the EPA.
Moore vs. Harper
How strong is your State Legislature?
Your amazing thread is showing in RT how damaged and broken the elections are.
M vs H I believe has already been ruled on and the timed ruling will be right behind this theft sad to say.
This slow feed of results is so mind numbingly illogical we have to admit we all get dumbed down if it is allowed and accepted anymore.
The SC knows this.
The military knows this.
This gets solved most efficiently by civilian control.(banana republic is the other option)

The SC rules that the State Legislatures have FULL authority to set up, manage and operate, execute and investigate all federal and State elections.

Watching this thread and listening to the opinions relating to 2020 makes me think this is SHOWTIME.
2020 had Az as central to fraud, though Nv has you hands down.
This is looking scripted now.
Within weeks the SC will rule on this and from there everything changes.
IMO Kati Hobbs is in on it without knowing it.
She was given enough rope to do this in front of the Nation.
She is that predictable.
New elections coming soon.
You guys did a great job Az.
It is obvious

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: JinMI
Much of Masters exposure was thru Kari-- attending events with her, and rallies, and press conferences. Kari gave him a lot of exposure, and really pushed the entire down ticket.

ETA forclarity: With so much of his exposure thru Kari, we can be pretty sure they voted for Kari!

We're told it's not uncommon to only vote the top of the ticket, but I've never heard of voting for US senator but not governor.

Ok, this was confusing me...

First, just to clarify, Masters got about 70K less votes than Lake, not 30k more, the 30K diff was between Hobbs and Blake. That said, I've never understood why or how someone who goes to the trouble of voting would vote only for Governor and not vote for at least the major ones next down ballot - especially someone who is voting for an election denier like Lake, and the Senator on the ballot is also an election denier and was campaigning closely with her.

As far as I'm concerned, this election will result in one of two things: the death of America (I'm sorry to say this is the most likely all things considered, especially if the Ds are able to enact federal voting mandates outlawing mandatory Voter IDs, ballot harvesting, random ballot drop boxes and mass mail-in voting), or the truth finally coming out in the form of real, certifiable, undeniable and legally valid evidence - through Kari's (or someone's) lawsuit in front of an honest (probably recent Trump appointed) judge.

I'll believe the latter when I see it, but it actually has a better chance than I'd have thought before reading the recent revelations (and thanks for that!) regarding Runbeck's inexcusable involvement in ballot handling, especially considering they handle ballots for a large percentage of the nation - like, why on earth do ballots need to go to a private printing company for sorting? SORTING??? Well...

It would - or should - only take one really good case, proving real, actual results changing (manipulating) fraud, even if it's in only one large county like Maricopa, to pave the way for lawsuits everywhere most of which won't get tossed without at least real evidentiary hearings (or massive protests), and any ridiculous NDAs between Runbeck and any Elections Supervisors would/should immediately be invalidated by said courts.

a reply to: Boadicea

You know what's interesting about this is that the Dem election officials know the Repubs, particularly the elderly, prefer to vote on election day. Makes it quite easy to pick off their votes.

Ever thus. Nothing chanes.

a reply to: Nevercompromise

Very encouraging and very logical.

Thank you

a reply to: CombatMosquito

Personally I don't think the loan payoff deal affected many votes at all.

Because it was well known long before elections started that the programs were halted.

The website said so, and you couldn't file an application and applicants saw the reasons -- court order halt.

😎

a reply to: Nevercompromise

Thank you for bringing Moore v Harper into the conversation, which will rule on the Constitutional power and duty of state legislatures to establish election law:

Issue: Whether a state’s judicial branch may nullify the regulations governing the “Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives ... prescribed ... by the Legislature thereof,” and replace them with regulations of the state courts’ own devising, based on vague state constitutional provisions purportedly vesting the state judiciary with power to prescribe whatever rules it deems appropriate to ensure a “fair” or “free” election.

SCOTUS Blog

I agree this ruling is absolutely crucial! It has already been the default position for the AZ Senate, and affirmed (at least in part) by our state Supreme Court. We don't know yet how our next legislatures will lean. Still counting of course...

With all we know now, especially Runbeck's role in all this, it's impossible to trust our election process. I hate to say it, but that includes a win by Kari. Even if only because Kari was screwed out of votes but still manages to win.

Kari had commented that they have a couple top notch lawyers in the counting center. Let's hope they are armed with facts and dangerous to the cheaters and that Kari is ready to fight.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Boadicea

You know what's interesting about this is that the Dem election officials know the Repubs, particularly the elderly, prefer to vote on election day. Makes it quite easy to pick off their votes.

Ever thus. Nothing chanes.

I've been thinking about this as well. Almost makes them sitting targets. It's like any criminal that "cases the joint" learning patterns and routines, finding the weak links, and planning accordingly.

Like election machines malfunctioning on Election Day...

New vote drop (small) --

Katie Hobbs -- 1,212,665
Kari Lake -- 1,187,893
--24,772 difference

Kelly -- 1,244,514
Masters -- 1,117,864

a reply to: Boadicea

Kirk and the boys certainly have been wrong, repeatedly now.

However, they are claiming that some "unrecorded new votes" were entered from districts that they previously claimed didn't exist.


Would still like to know how and why a 3rd party, biased company, can be part of the chain of custody but have no eyes on their processes or actions.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Boadicea

Kirk and the boys certainly have been wrong, repeatedly now.

However, they are claiming that some "unrecorded new votes" were entered from districts that they previously claimed didn't exist.

There's some truth to this. Legislative districts changed 2022 and some were added. I don't know why that would be a surprise tho.

New congressional, legislative districts approved -- news.azpm.org...

The new congressional district boundaries create three seats that lean Democratic, four seats that lean Republican and two that are more narrowly divided between the parties.

I can see someone playing games with it somehow, but I'd have to hear more.

Would still like to know how and why a 3rd party, biased company, can be part of the chain of custody but have no eyes on their processes or actions.

Me too. Runbeck is the weakest link in the process. The company and the employees have the means, the motive, and the opportunity to create official ballots for fraudulent purposes on demand without detection nor oversight, easily submitted for official approval and included in the official count.

The election was not secure. It is not certifiable. We need a new election minus the Runbeck abyss.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: CombatMosquito

Personally I don't think the loan payoff deal affected many votes at all.

Because it was well known long before elections started that the programs were halted.

The website said so, and you couldn't file an application and applicants saw the reasons -- court order halt.

😎

You could be right, I'm just reporting that several people I know stated that this was the reason they voted D for the first time, but I haven't seen any respected analyst even suggest such a thing (yet).

All of them either had what seemed like mortgage payments (to me) on student loans, or were helping their children or grand children with such student loan payments.

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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: JinMI

A couple more thoughts on Runbeck...

Georgia and Pennsylvania also use Runbeck; is it possible Runbeck runs similar operations in any of their counties? Who would actually need to know beyond the driver's transporting to Runbeck facilities and whoever Runbeck deals with at the county? And for all we know, the drivers are Runbeck employees... maybe temporary employees. I hope folks in GA and PA at least try to rule it. And make sure it doesn't happen there.

Another small vote count drop --

Hobbs...1,213,456
Lake... 1,188,737

Kelly...1,245,311
Masters...1,118,654

This is intriguing:

The plan, as I understand it now, is that since the Maricopa attorney admitted there was the potential for voter fraud with the broken machines and since voter sentiment is leaning toward lacking trust in the results, Arizona has a method through which a single voter (though preferably more) can challenge the results and get the election annulled. It does not require proving voter fraud nor does it require proving intent. The circumstances need to be demonstrated that enough voters do not trust the results for good reasons, and considering the election day debacle in Maricopa County, they should have ample reasons to be disenfranchised.

Attorney Leo Donofrio: If Arizona Gets Stolen, Here’s How to Fight It -- americafirstreport.com...

If I remember correctly, Leo Donofrio filed a lawsuit against Obama's natural born citizen status in 2008. And lost.

ETA: I remembered correctly:

Supreme Court declines to hear Obama citizenship challenge -- legalnewsline.com...

a reply to: Boadicea


Interesting, but I have to ask...

Why didn't anyone try that in 2021 if it's so easy?

originally posted by: CombatMosquito
a reply to: Boadicea

Interesting, but I have to ask...

Why didn't anyone try that in 2021 if it's so easy?

I'm not sure it is true yet... but if it is, I'm guessing it's a state law pertaining to state offices, not a federal law and not applicable to federal offices. But that's just my best guess.

It would sure be fun to see how many voters would join such a class action suit...