The Fight for Election Integrity Continues -- Audits, Criminal Investigations, Legislative Reform

a reply to: xuenchen

Pop goes the Weasel ... all back to the election services company 🤡🐸

Yup! That article also states that two different brands of on-demand printers were used in this election, and only one brand was spoiling ballots. In the primaries, only the other brand was used.

Again, leading us right back to Runbeck.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: xuenchen

Pop goes the Weasel ... all back to the election services company 🤡🐸

Yup! That article also states that two different brands of on-demand printers were used in this election, and only one brand was spoiling ballots. In the primaries, only the other brand was used.

Again, leading us right back to Runbeck.

And, IMO, companies as "efficient" as Runbeck don't make those kinds of "mistakes" on important jobs, unless their paid to. 🤡

Kelly 1,1979,981
Masters 1,065,123



Hobbs 1,211,595
Lake 1,185,584

a reply to: xuenchen

And, IMO, companies as "efficient" as Runbeck don't make those kinds of "mistakes" on important jobs, unless their paid to. 🤡

Yeah, when there is virtually no room for deviation, this seems pretty obvious.

At the same time, it could be just one or two rogue employees accidentally on purpose overlooking this requirement, making it a feature rather than a glitch.

We know that Runbeck employees donate to Dems. I'd also like to know if there's been any employees who moved from the County Elections Dept to Runbeck...or vice versa. The infamous revolving door.

a reply to: Boadicea

The mere fact that there is enough shadiness around this company is proof enough that "transparent" is not a priority.

originally posted by: JinMI

Hobbs 1,211,595
Lake 1,185,584

So roughly 26,000 difference between Kari and Katie now.

And these were the previous totals --

Hobbs-- 1,159,420
Lake-- 1,125,580

There was 34,000 difference for gov in the last count.

That was definitely good for Kari. Fingers crossed and prayers up!

a reply to: JinMI

Something else that's curious, maybe Shady, is that when Runbeck digitally transmits scans of the signature box for signature verification by County election workers, it is only that section of the envelope -- basically the lower right quadrant. It does not include the barcode in the lower left quadrant, which would verify that envelope and ballot was sent to that voter.

If it's important enough to put on there isn't it important enough to actually verify? Or maybe Runbeck checks it?

a reply to: Boadicea

Highly suspicious and incredibly planned 😀

a reply to: Boadicea

Why wouldn't the entirety of the information be transmitted?

That is rather odd.

From AZ Family --

Democrat Katie Hobbs kept her lead on Sunday following the results of another 90,000 ballot drop from Maricopa County. Her lead over Republican Kari Lake now stands at 26,011 votes, with an estimated 92% of votes have been counted. Hobbs now has 1,211,595 votes compared to Lake’s 1,185,584. While the latest batch of ballot results favored Lake in Maricopa County, she needs a higher percentage of the votes. Lake needed 56.5% of remaining ballots to surpass Hobbs, but came up short at 54.6%. She now needs 58.13% of the remaining 160,000 ballots to win.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Boadicea

Why wouldn't the entirety of the information be transmitted?

That is rather odd.

I don't know. I guess I can kinda sorta see not transmitting the top half, which is blank, to save bandwidth or memory or something. I can see some suggesting it anyway.

Frankly, I think they should scan the whole envelope and show it's an envelope, and not something digitally manufactured.

But definitely all the information on the envelope should be transmitted. And verified.

a reply to: Boadicea

Deja Vu 2020 as Arizona passed 90% of ballots counted. From memory: "Trump is gaining on Biden, but it does not appear to be fast enough to close the gap before 100% has been counted".

Then, 8 months later, we learn that tens of thousands of ballots were illegal, but no authority was willing to determine which Biden ballots and which Trump ballots were illegal, throw them out, and adjust the final total...because it was too late to change anything at that point.

As conservative pundit Dan Bongino corretly said on Social Media yesterday, people didn't feel enough pain in the 60 days prior to the election.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

Deja Vu 2020 as Arizona passed 90% of ballots counted. From memory: "Trump is gaining on Biden, but it does not appear to be fast enough to close the gap before 100% has been counted".

Then, 8 months later, we learn that tens of thousands of ballots were illegal, but no authority was willing to determine which Biden ballots and which Trump ballots were illegal, throw them out, and adjust the final total...because it was too late to change anything at that point.

As conservative pundit Dan Bongino corretly said on Social Media yesterday, people didn't feel enough pain in the 60 days prior to the election.

That might be the most concise description of the end result of what democrats did in Maricopa in 2020, and again in 2022.

Though I think the illegal student loan promises and dishonesty claiming that it had been approved by congress, had a much larger part to play in what just happened nationwide than I've seen anyone describe yet.

I personally know quite a few normally reliable R voters that voted straight democrat after being told that democrats had cancelled their student loan debt this time, and I suspect analysts will eventually discover that these folks will eventually became a huge part of the 2022 voter 'anomalies' - that it wasn't the abortion propaganda brainwashing that did is in, it was illegal and dishonest promises of cancelling personal debt payments.

Next time maybe we should unleash genetically engineered Election Mosquitos that make the brainwashed forget to vote.

Either way, it's pretty obvious that we now need 'katie hobbs election fraud' constitutional amendments that prevent any SoS from administering or playing any part in the management of elections where the SoS is herself a candidate.

I will now advocate for nationwide 'katie hobbs election fraud' constitutional amendments in all 50 states.

She deserves to have her fraudulent behavior memorialized by having every such amendment named after her personallly, so nobody in the future ever forgets what happened before those 50 amendments passed.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

Deja Vu 2020 as Arizona passed 90% of ballots counted. From memory: "Trump is gaining on Biden, but it does not appear to be fast enough to close the gap before 100% has been counted".

Deja vu indeed. With some slight differences, but not enough.

It's unfathomable and unacceptable that every early ballot goes straight to Runbeck, with no observers, no oversight, and no control. That's not even including the spoiled ballots... we have no idea what happened to them.

Then, 8 months later, we learn that tens of thousands of ballots were illegal, but no authority was willing to determine which Biden ballots and which Trump ballots were illegal, throw them out, and adjust the final total...because it was too late to change anything at that point.

We'll have to see what happens. If Kari does lose, and if Kari blames it on anything but cheating, then the deja vu is complete.

As conservative pundit Dan Bongino corretly said on Social Media yesterday, people didn't feel enough pain in the 60 days prior to the election.

Maybe... maybe not. But given what we know about the process in theory (Runbeck) and the process in practice (spoiled ballots), the count cannot be trusted.

a reply to: CombatMosquito

I personally know quite a few normally reliable R voters that voted straight democrat after being told that democrats had cancelled their student loan debt this time....

I don't understand. Wanting their personal debts paid by taxpayers doesn't sound like a conservative or Republican position at all.

But even so, why vote for the Dems that keep teasing and taunting then take it back off the table?

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: CombatMosquito

I personally know quite a few normally reliable R voters that voted straight democrat after being told that democrats had cancelled their student loan debt this time....

I don't understand. Wanting their personal debts paid by taxpayers doesn't sound like a conservative or Republican position at all.

But even so, why vote for the Dems that keep teasing and taunting then take it back off the table?

Propaganda was very effective in this, and brainwashing is a helluva drug --> especially when taken with a healthy dose of personal greed.

That was my observation anyway.

Also - right there with you on Rs doing very little to earn my vote.

a reply to: CombatMosquito

...brainwashing is a helluva drug --> especially when taken with a healthy dose of personal greed.

Gotcha -- thank you.

And you're sure right about brainwashing, especially when combined with greed. I'll add fear as well.

It can be powerful stuff.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: JinMI
Much of Masters exposure was thru Kari-- attending events with her, and rallies, and press conferences. Kari gave him a lot of exposure, and really pushed the entire down ticket.

ETA forclarity: With so much of his exposure thru Kari, we can be pretty sure they voted for Kari!

We're told it's not uncommon to only vote the top of the ticket, but I've never heard of voting for US senator but not governor.

Ok, this was confusing me...

First, just to clarify, Masters got about 70K less votes than Lake, not 30k more, the 30K diff was between Hobbs and Blake. That said, I've never understood why or how someone who goes to the trouble of voting would vote only for Governor and not vote for at least the major ones next down ballot - especially someone who is voting for an election denier like Lake, and the Senator on the ballot is also an election denier and was campaigning closely with her.

As far as I'm concerned, this election will result in one of two things: the death of America (I'm sorry to say this is the most likely all things considered, especially if the Ds are able to enact federal voting mandates outlawing mandatory Voter IDs, ballot harvesting, random ballot drop boxes and mass mail-in voting), or the truth finally coming out in the form of real, certifiable, undeniable and legally valid evidence - through Kari's (or someone's) lawsuit in front of an honest (probably recent Trump appointed) judge.

I'll believe the latter when I see it, but it actually has a better chance than I'd have thought before reading the recent revelations (and thanks for that!) regarding Runbeck's inexcusable involvement in ballot handling, especially considering they handle ballots for a large percentage of the nation - like, why on earth do ballots need to go to a private printing company for sorting? SORTING??? Well...

It would - or should - only take one really good case, proving real, actual results changing (manipulating) fraud, even if it's in only one large county like Maricopa, to pave the way for lawsuits everywhere most of which won't get tossed without at least real evidentiary hearings (or massive protests), and any ridiculous NDAs between Runbeck and any Elections Supervisors would/should immediately be invalidated by said courts.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: CombatMosquito

...brainwashing is a helluva drug --> especially when taken with a healthy dose of personal greed.

Gotcha -- thank you.

And you're sure right about brainwashing, especially when combined with greed. I'll add fear as well.

It can be powerful stuff.

Like minds I guess, I actually tried to add something about their fear of the world collapsing around them, but still can't come up with an accurate way of describing what I sensed from them without making it sound like more than it was.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Ok, this was confusing me...

That's probably my fault. I must have misspoke or confused myself, because you nailed what I was trying to say:

I've never understood why or how someone who goes to the trouble of voting would vote only for Governor and not vote for at least the major ones next down ballot - especially someone who is voting for an election denier like Lake, and the Senator on the ballot is also an election denier and was campaigning closely with her.

I can't see voting for Kari, but not voting for Masters -- Kari not only asked voters to support Masters, he was right by her side more often than not. So how did he do so poorly?

I can understand why folks would vote for Kelly but not Hobbs.

Also like you, I certainly want to see Kari use her position-- win or lose -- to fight the corruption. I'd like to see an honest judge hear the facts in a court of law -- the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth-- but I'll believe it when I see it.

I also agree about Runbeck. Everything may be completely lawful as the law is written (knowing that laws are too often written to protect the guilty)...but I wouldn't bet on anything at this point.

I'm glad you appreciated the info tho, and that you're still reading. Knowledge is power.

We just have to wait for all this counting to be done and see where to go from there.